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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:50 PM   #26
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In practice, the change only affects iPhone 5 customers with tiered, though not unlimited, data plans.
So let me get this straight, AT&T: Because I've been a customer with you for over 4 years and have an "unlimited" data plan (that's not really unlimited) I'm being punished for not going to one of your tiered plans? You know I still pay your bill hand-over-fist every month, right?
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:52 PM   #27
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I don't really care about FaceTime over cellular all that much. It's just the principle that's annoying me. Also, I hate how they try to frame that they've always "offered" FaceTime over wifi. What a joke.

On the other hand, when I am unthrottled I do love my service and other alternatives aren't any better so I'm stuck with settling and rationalizing.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:54 PM   #28
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Wait... what?! AT&T is deciding if I an use Apple's FaceTime app that comes preloaded on the iPhone? Only if on a tiered plan? How's this news?

Am I crazy or this piece of news begs for thrashing?
You're crazy. If you signed up for a Mobile Share plan you've had Facetime access over the network since the iPhone 5 launched. AT&T is expanding the access to all tiered plans with an LTE capable device.

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So let me get this straight, AT&T: Because I've been a customer with you for over 4 years and have an "unlimited" data plan (that's not really unlimited) I'm being punished for not going to one of your tiered plans? You know I still pay your bill hand-over-fist every month, right?
This is old news. You're complaining about something that until today has been covered up by mounds of other articles.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:54 PM   #29
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I don't even want to see the data usage for an LTE FaceTime call.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:55 PM   #30
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AT&T still doesn't get it. It's our data, and we should get to choose how we use it.
Oh they get it. And that's exactly why they milk you for every penny.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:55 PM   #31
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I have an unlimited plan and I would like to use my data as I please, without restrictions. It's bad that it seems they won't allow Facetime over cellular for people with unlimited plans.

Anyway, unlimited is a misnomer, they throttle the connection after certain amount of data. The only advantage is the guarantee of no overage charges and having some minimal data services once past the limit. I really like the impossibility of overage charges.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:55 PM   #32
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Whatever, AT&T. Try as you may to force me out of my unlimited data plan; you can have it when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
Damn Right!!
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:56 PM   #33
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"AT&T will also continue to offer FaceTime ... over Wi-Fi, which has always been available for all customers."

This is how you can tell AT&T are ********s. They have absolutely nothing to do with FaceTime over Wi-Fi.
They do when it's AT&T WiFi.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:56 PM   #34
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Oh they get it. And that's exactly why they milk you for every penny.
I guess what I mean is they don't get it from our perspective or that they don't care about it.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:57 PM   #35
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What a bunch of hooey. C'mon AT&T, how bout a little love for us long time iPhone customers on grandfathered plans...
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:58 PM   #36
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So let me get this straight, AT&T: Because I've been a customer with you for over 4 years and have an "unlimited" data plan (that's not really unlimited) I'm being punished for not going to one of your tiered plans? You know I still pay your bill hand-over-fist every month, right?
It's your choice. You don't have to do FaceTime over cellular. NO ONE IS MAKING YOU.

You aren't being punished. Those who have moved to the tiered plans are being rewarded.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 01:59 PM   #37
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:00 PM   #38
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BS ... AT&T ... Complete BS

Very confused regarding @++'s logic. I am paying for unlimited and yet you get to decide what I can use on my unlimited plan? That's like Comcast saying, we're only going to let you FaceTime if you have premium or business class service.

Not impressed with their inability to be creative about extracting revenue from their customer base. How about better service.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:00 PM   #39
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AT&T still doesn't get it. It's our data, and we should get to choose how we use it.
They do get it.
Its only your data if you buy it. You can buy the tiered plan.

I have said for a long time that AT&T should let everyone who wants an unlimited plan from 2007, have it. They should give them the 2007 network, with the 2007 network speeds and lets them use it to they are blue in the face. I doubt that would be make the AT&T Haters go away.

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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:01 PM   #40
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At no extra charge?? How nice of them!
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:01 PM   #41
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I don't even want to see the data usage for an LTE FaceTime call.
I want to see it. So I can make an informed decision.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:02 PM   #42
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still calling it BS. AT&T should not be blocking is end of story. Just like Apple should not be blocking Facetime over cellular from any of its phones.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:04 PM   #43
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If AT&T wants to win us over, the least they can do is offer tethering, WiFi Hotspot, and FaceTime over any plans. And for those on unlimited plan, just call it for what it is: 3GB 3G+, unlimited 2G.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:08 PM   #44
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Stop complaining. At least it's better than how it was before
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:08 PM   #45
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How much data do you think an average (4-5 minutes face time call) will take up on iPhone 5?
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:11 PM   #46
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They do get it.
Its only your data if you buy it. You can buy the tiered plan.

I have said for a long time that AT&T should let everyone who wants an unlimited plan from 2007, have it. They should give them the 2007 network, with the 2007 network speeds and lets them use it to they are blue in the face. I doubt that would be make the AT&T Haters go away.
So you are talking about the crowd who has been loyal to AT&T for years? That crowd? Yeah that would include me. I PAY FOR DATA, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE MY DATA ANY WAY I WISH. I have been with att then cingular then the "new att". As a loyal customer I do not like getting rapped up the *** when they don't allow me to take advantage of new features..

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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:11 PM   #47
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jailbreaking > att's data restriction policies

sucks that it's the only way, but at least there is a way...
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:13 PM   #48
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All this is is a money grab. They finally realized that if you go over your tiered plan using FaceTime they make more $$$. They probably cleaned up with overages on shared data and decides lets make them think this is us being nice when it's really us making more $$$
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:13 PM   #49
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i am no expert at cellular networks and data, however this whole "it's my data, i should be able to do whatever I want with it" is a bit bs.

LTE allows for more bandwidth and strictly is for data. 3G on the other hand handles both data and voice protocols.

For those FaceTiming on 3G, you add significant strain on the AT&T network. People forget that when 3G first rolled out (around 2005), the amount of traffic was next to none. Yes infrastructure has improved and evolved, but at the end of the day, it is about delivering and meeting the Quality of Service expectations. You must also look at the amount of smartphone traffic that the 3G networks now see...it is at levels probably not thinkable back when the networks were first rolled out.

So yes, moving FaceTime only to LTE is smart.
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Old Nov 8, 2012, 02:14 PM   #50
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And of course, if we leave unlimited and begin using Facetime, we'll probably exceed our monthly data allotment.
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They finally realized that if you go over your tiered plan using FaceTime they make more $$$.
Facetime is pretty efficient.

I did some math and with my 10 GB shared plan my family could technically use over 55 HOURS of Facetime per month. I don't know about you, but that's way more video calling than I'd do in a month. (And that's assuming I never had wifi.)

And yes, of course I use that data for other stuff too, but my point is that there's a LOT of Facetime available. Way, way more than I'd use. I'd guess I probably only use about 50 MB per month of AT&T data on Facetime.

I really think that people say things like "I can't use Facetime on a limited plan" without actually checking if that's true or not.
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