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Old Nov 12, 2012, 12:52 PM   #1
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Apple Hiring for Future Retail Stores in Brazil and Turkey




Apple today posted a number of new job listings indicating that the company will be opening retail stores in various locations in Brazil and Turkey. The listings include full slates of retail positions in each country, including Managers, Geniuses, Creatives, Specialists, and business-focused staff.

Apple's job listing for positions at Brazilian retail stores
Apple has been pursuing an aggressive expansion of its international retail store footprint, with 75% of the planned 30-35 new stores for fiscal 2013 being located outside of the United States. Sweden was the most recent country to gain its first Apple retail store with the mid-September opening of a Stockholm-area store, making Sweden the 14th country or region to host at least one Apple retail store.

Manager job listing for Turkish retail stores
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 12:54 PM   #2
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(( Why those countries ?_? I have to pay double in my country and not great support either.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 12:59 PM   #3
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It's about time, Istanbul deserves an Apple Store.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:00 PM   #4
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Apple's legendary customer service is faltering. They're a victim of their own success, at least here in Toronto.

Last night my iPhone5's speaker stopped working and Apple Care over the phone determined it was hardware failure. I tried to make a Genius appointment and at first I thought I did something wrong, because the first available time slot was 5PM... Next Friday!

The Eaton Centre which is Apple's only downtown store is just a small store in a mall, even if it's Toronto's most popular mall. They badly need a downtown flagship store.

I've been with Apple for a decade, way before they were mainstream. Back then, if I had a problem, I got immediate service and really the legendary service that Apple is known for is what kept me around all this time. Problem with my PowerBook? They fixed it -- even out of warranty. Dead battery on my original generation iPod? Replaced, no questions asked.

Today: Problem with my iPhone 5 through no fault of my own? No Genius slots in the Apple store, and if I want an iPhone 5 replacement delivered through the mail, I have to pay $30. Really Apple? Your hardware fails and my only reasonable option to get it replaced quickly is to pay you? I'm disappointed. Good thing John Browett got canned but this seems like a larger problem.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:02 PM   #5
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Maybe that's why they're charging US$5000 for a rMBP and US$3000 for an entry level iMac in Brazil, to finance the new stores…

The new Apple prices for Brazil (including the rumored US$1500 iPhone 5 to be released yet) will probably slow their efforts to open a retail store in Brazil once it diminishes their sales number.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:06 PM   #6
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Maybe that's why they're charging US$5000 for a rMBP and US$3000 for an entry level iMac in Brazil, to finance the new stores…

The new Apple prices for Brazil (including the rumored US$1500 iPhone 5 to be released yet) will probably slow their efforts to open a retail store in Brazil once it diminishes their sales number.
Don't blame Apple, blame Brazil's incredibly high tax rates on imported electronics.
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(( Why those countries ?_? I have to pay double in my country and not great support either.
Because Brazil is the world's 4th largest IT market, with a gigantic middle/rich class willing to pay premium prices for Apple devices, even with all the tax imposition that exists there. In fact, a local retail Apple Store makes more than sense there, since local production has already started to lower the historically-high prices in the country

So the equation fits: local production + local logistics + local retail = lower prices and much higher sales numbers.

Is that reason enough for you?

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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:10 PM   #8
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Maybe that's why they're charging US$5000 for a rMBP and US$3000 for an entry level iMac in Brazil, to finance the new stores…

The new Apple prices for Brazil (including the rumored US$1500 iPhone 5 to be released yet) will probably slow their efforts to open a retail store in Brazil once it diminishes their sales number.
Wow!!! I thought we were getting ripped in the US lol.

Is avg income higher there atleast?
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:13 PM   #9
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Don't blame Apple, blame Brazil's incredibly high tax rates on imported electronics.
I don't buy that anymore. Why importing, legally, as an end consumer, a MBP is still cheaper than buying here? And that's considering the end price they charge at their stores, not the amount the spend making the laptops.

Also, why they jacked up 100% the iMac prices in the latest update considering the dollar/real exchange is roughly the same?

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Is avg income higher there atleast?
lol, not at all…
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:18 PM   #10
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Because Brazil is the world's 4th largest IT market, with a gigantic middle/rich class willing to pay premium prices for Apple devices, even with all the tax imposition that exists there. In fact, a local retail Apple Store makes more than sense there, since local production has already started to lower the historically-high prices in the country

So the equation fits: local production + local logistics + local retail = lower prices and much higher sales numbers.

Is that reason enough for you?
No offence but brazil is also still developing country.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:20 PM   #11
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Yay, Turkey! My mom's brother-in-law is from there. Beautiful country.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:25 PM   #13
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Wow!!! I thought we were getting ripped in the US lol.

Is avg income higher there atleast?
No, it's not (although per capita GDP is growing fast in the country). However, the upper middle class and richer classes have a lot of money and ARE willing to spend whatever it takes to have an Apple device.

In any case, I must agree with Akzel on one point: it's not ONLY about taxes; it's also about higher logistical costs AND the magic component of WILLINGNESS to pay (also known as "welfare" in Economics).

Just like places such as Switzerland, richer Brazilians still lack the collective sensitivity or transparent information to demand lower prices when compared to other international markets.

This happens mostly because the complex taxation system allows companies to mask their profit margins behind the excuse that fiscality is the sole responsible for those ridiculous prices...

This happens a lot in the automotive market in Brazil as well (where even locally-produced cars are sold in neighboring countries for MUCH lower prices even when all taxes are taken out of MRSPs).

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No offence but brazil is also still developing country.
You mean like the US?
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:25 PM   #14
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No offence but brazil is also still developing country.
Seriously, google favelas.
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Seriously, google favelas.
While you are at it, feel free to google "New Orleans" or "Detroit" as well.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:28 PM   #16
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Don't blame Apple, blame Brazil's incredibly high tax rates on imported electronics.
"imported electronics"... Well, Foxxcon has an iDevices factory in Brazil (don't know if they actually make anything else in there), so how exactly does high import taxes affect this pricing?

When they moved in here, the propaganda was that prices should drop significantly since the 100% import tax rates wouldn't apply anymore, but prices remains the same - and now they've increased with the latest releases...

@1member1 - I agree with BRLawyer, except for the part where prices drop (I'm still to see this becoming true). Just to remember, back in the days of iPhone 2G, Apple noted that 1/3 of their devices were operating on a regular basis in Brazil, even though the only carrier authorized to sell the iPhone was AT&T, which doesn't operate in there.

At the very least this means brazillians were willing to pay for all the expenses that included buying an iPhone, importing it into Brazil, jailbreak it and unlock it to work with local carriers, for a total price of over US$ 1200.00 for the 16GB model - I know this because I was one of the guys that did this!

There is a HUGE market in here for Apple, if they make it through this taxes barrier without skyrocketing their prices
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:37 PM   #17
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Because Brazil is the world's 4th largest IT market, with a gigantic middle/rich class willing to pay premium prices for Apple devices, even with all the tax imposition that exists there. In fact, a local retail Apple Store makes more than sense there, since local production has already started to lower the historically-high prices in the country

So the equation fits: local production + local logistics + local retail = lower prices and much higher sales numbers.

Is that reason enough for you?
Same in Greece, but apple decided to make a store in Turkey before making one in Greece :S
Too bad they don't seem to care about their customers...
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When!

Anybody know when the store in Brazil is set to open?

The grand old days of Apple Store openings such as SoHo and Ginza may be over especially since the off chance of meeting Steve is now a foregone conclusion. Still, the lure of caipirinhas is strong indeed.
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You mean like the US?
nope .. US is developed country. I think you wish to have 1/1000 of what they have there..

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Seriously, google favelas.
lol I can see it ! apple store in favelas style.
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"imported electronics"... Well, Foxxcon has an iDevices factory in Brazil (don't know if they actually make anything else in there), so how exactly does high import taxes affect this pricing?
They don't make computers in those factories. As far as we know, they just make one model of iPhone. I can see why they wouldn't price a single iPhone model at the lower, Brazilian-made price, and the rest at the standard imported price.
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especially since the off chance of meeting Steve is now a foregone conclusion. Still, the lure of caipirinhas is strong indeed.

FYI: Foregone conclusion in your statement means that it's inevitable that you will meet Steve Jobs. Unless you can see ghosts, I don't think you will.
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FYI: Foregone conclusion in your statement means that it's inevitable that you will meet Steve Jobs. Unless you can see ghosts, I don't think you will.

Indeed. Was crafting that in the sense that it's now a foregone conclusion that one will NOT meet Steve, hence allure of openings has lessened.
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Taxing in Turkey is as much as in Brazil I guess.

The distributor in Turkey sells and gives support for Apple products.

Buying it in Euro currency(instead of $) and distributor's profit+tax= High prices in Turkey.


We are waiting for Apple Store's instead of Apple Premium Reseller
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Same in Greece, but apple decided to make a store in Turkey before making one in Greece :S
Too bad they don't seem to care about their customers...
Greece cant afford apple products right now

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nope .. US is developed country. I think you wish to have 1/1000 of what they have there..[COLOR="#808080"]
1/1000th of what exactly? Guns?

You don't seem to come from the US anyway...why bother?

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Taxing in Turkey is as much as in Brazil I guess.

The distributor in Turkey sells and gives support for Apple products.

Buying it in Euro currency(instead of $) and distributor's profit+tax= High prices in Turkey.


We are waiting for Apple Store's instead of Apple Premium Reseller
I assure you Brazil's import tax and associated charges are much higher...the average imposition is of 60% of import tax alone, plus a plethora of State/Municipal taxes which, together, constitute some 100% markup on the US price, PLUS the local retailers' high profit margins.
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