AidenShaw
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Yes, HP is bigger than Apple. Wal-Mart is three times the size of Apple.
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Samsung Reportedly Hits Apple with 20% Price Increase for iOS Device Chips
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Yes, HP is bigger than Apple. Wal-Mart is three times the size of Apple.
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The meaning of the process node name keeps changing.
It used to be that the process name specified a minimum feature size (smallest element). Then it was something like minimum gate size, where other features could be smaller.
At 22, I'm not sure what it means because I've heard conflicting definitions and I don't keep myself up to date in this realm. I'll ask some people next time they're in town for the conference; they love talking about this stuff.
But yeah, it is seriously incredible this stuff works at all.
Did you know part of metal gate lithography involves laying down a bunch of materials as scaffolding and then etching that away in order to make sure incompatible materials don't ever touch? Oh, and it happens across 9+ layers? And you have to change etchings in order to make sure you don't etch away stuff that's exposed that you want? It's ridiculous.
Ramchi
macrumors 65816
Smart suppliers might want to negotiate better deals unless Apple picks bankrupt suppliers like Sharp and trying to lift them from financial woes.
This increases the risk factor since they can't afford to have issues with their parts. Samsung somehow pulled this for Apple for so long.
Already Apple is having QC issues in few areas, hope this does not amplify further!
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Jetson
macrumors 6502a
Samsung is a huge company in it's own right. They have many different product lines, not all in electronics. It's really not dependent on Apple as a customer. However Apple currently depends on Samsung as a supplier.
You should try reading up on the topic. You'd be surprised, and you wouldn't have to build straw men out of what I say in the process.
I'd call it counter-intuitive, but that would actually be just about exactly wrong. The human mind intuits its way to a decision, *then* collates the information available, connecting that information (factual or otherwise) to the decision after the fact. What we *think* is a rational decision making process is actually acting on our 'gut instincts' and then rationalizing the decision after the fact.
That process is probably the biggest part of why people can cling to beliefs well past the point where they have been proven completely and utterly without any basis in reality. (The 6000 year-old Earth, for example.)
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We really do exist!
Solomani
macrumors 601
I have to call it out when I see people saying "This is the end for Samsung, This is the end for Apple. The writing is on the wall!"
In reality both companies are too big to fail anytime soon. Let's all be realistic. The falling out in the Apple-Samsung supplier relationship will hurt the finances of BOTH companies. But the hurt will be short term. Samsung will move on and find other customers. And Apple will eventually find a replacement supplier that's more amicable and more reasonable (they have been working on this transition for over a year now).
The hurt (for both Apple and Samsung) will be short term, possibly denting their profit margins a bit. The stock investors to both corporations will feel the effects (because stock performance is highly correlated to a company's profitability), but most consumers probably won't notice the effects.
Both companies have so much cash reserves that neither will be crippled or collapse due to this. They will move on and continue to be industry giants for years to come.
Let's cut out the hyperbole and the drama-queening here.
iGrip
macrumors 68000
Well, the one billion dollars that Apple won from Samsung goes a long way towards helping with the extra seventeen billion Apple is now going to pay to Samsung.
golf1410
macrumors 6502a
Missing many points because we all pay for this. Apple won't come up with the best products anymore as Sammy has the best display(better than LG) and chips(SSD better than Toshiba). It is you and me who are affected.
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Samsung will be more stronger. They don't just make phones, computers, tablet, chips. Samsung builds almost everything. Only Apple builds phones, tablets, computers and music player. One of them is gone bad. Apple will be in trouble.
I understand that Apple wouldn't switch to OMAP, but I was suggesting that Apple might have a partner in chip production. TI opened a semi conductor plant in China 2 years ago, and TI is also expanding in Texas as is Apple. Apple has the designs and the new lead designer, and TI has the manufacturing base.
iGrip
macrumors 68000
Samsung has basically just stolen everything from Apple at this point. Samsung will NOT "be more stronger" - it will be more weaker.
Samsung tries to build anything and everything in the world. They even make the garbage trucks to cart it all away after it breaks. Apple focuses like a laser on nothing but insanely great products and then recycles them responsibly.
nia820
macrumors 68020
LG parts and products are crap. Samsung makes quality parts. Why do you think apple has been getting Samsung to supply them.
Samsung stole television,fridges,computers,stoves,microwaves etc design from apple ? Samsung is a bigger company than apple lol some people here really think that apple is the biggest company in the world 😱
With those garbage truck samsung will collect apple and dump it on the trailer park with all the "insanely great product" 😎
Ramchi
macrumors 65816
Lets also remember that Apple partnered with the thief (if Samsung indeed has stolen) for so long and reaped benefits from where they were since 2007.
This is pure nonsense. Fabs are incredible difficult to make, because of all the integration challenges across tool suppliers. Never mind their cost. That's why so many big players have gone fabless.
As far as IP, designers need patents cause there is nothing else. But the firms that can compete with Intel you can count on one hand.
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AMD has gone fabless. Like ARM, marvell, qualcomm, nvidea. They now design only. And this only works because of TSMC and a few others will contract manufacture - it's how to get the economies of scale to justify the fab costs.
Is this the same ethical company you are speaking of that sues innocent companies? Apple are complete losers when it comes to ethics. What Samsung took from Apple in terms of copying was little to nothing.
Check out this bit of work from your precious Apple.
http://www.dailycurrant.com/2012/09/21/apple-sues-york-orchard-patent-infringement/
Riiiiiight. And without Bill Gates investing in Apple they would be out of business. Oh how quickly people forget. Only Apple fans can be so arrogant and elitist to take credit for all the technology of the universe.
I agree. Plus, let's not forget Samsung also dropped Apple from their display manufacturing. This says a lot. It wasn't Apple dropping Samsung but the other way around. Koreans can be fierce competitors and unlike Japan they are not as hung up on playing nice. Apple started the battle but Samsung may win the war. Especially if Apple is unable to supply their products. People are more on the fence when deciding on a new phone. If the Samsung phone can be had today but an iphone is back ordered, many people will buy what they can touch.
Oletros
macrumors 603
Again, why would Apple contact AMD? They already design their own chips, so they don't need AMD for that and AMD doesn't have any manufacturing capacity at all.
Solomani
macrumors 601
I remember when Samsung was known worldwide as "that Korean refrigerator company" back in the 1970s and 1980s. Until Sammy succeeded in toppling America's beloved GE (General Electrics), in part by stealing GE's patents and inventions. From what I read of that rivalry, this was REAL stealing, not patent design imitation. Stealing as in corporate espionage (Samsung spies and moles inside GE allegedly stealing blueprints, bribing engineers, etc). GE is still seething with hatred from that experience.
Apple is not the first American corporation that Sammy backstabbed. It certainly won't be the last.