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Old Nov 13, 2012, 09:23 PM   #1
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Powerbook G4 won't play youtube videos smoothly

I'm newbie here, my powerbook G4 12" 1.33 GHz is in excellent condition (cosmetically) but won't play youtube video's smoothly. It appears the video's are choppy and delayed. Adobe's web site-via youtube suggests i need to update or use current Adobe's version and, or, add plugins. Yes,I have tried to update but... only get old versions of Adobe that are no loner available, I feel like I'm going around in circles. Any suggestions?
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 09:51 PM   #2
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Playing Flash on an older G4 is almost impossible because it's no longer supported by Adobe. Websites require the latest version of Flash, so it leaves PPC users in the cold.

The easiest work around for Youtube is to use an app like Mactubes.

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/28608/mactubes

Install Mactubes, open the preferences, and change the player to either Quicktime or Video Player, not Flash. Then search Youtube right in Mactubes, you can even download videos by right clicking. If someone sends you a link to a Youtube video, just do a search for the video's title in Mactubes to watch it.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 09:56 PM   #3
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I'm newbie here, my powerbook G4 12" 1.33 GHz is in excellent condition (cosmetically) but won't play youtube video's smoothly. It appears the video's are choppy and delayed. Adobe's web site-via youtube suggests i need to update or use current Adobe's version and, or, add plugins. Yes,I have tried to update but... only get old versions of Adobe that are no loner available, I feel like I'm going around in circles. Any suggestions?
How much RAM do you have installed?

There's a thread here where a guy made a better Flash plugin for Mac PowerPC. I use it and youtube performs better. (320p)

Also, you can use Youview for Powerpc or mactubes.

The choice is yours,
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 10:02 PM   #4
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Beating this dead horse

There are about a bajillion posts on this, but since I like typing and being helpful, I will hook you up.

One program will solve this "issue": Mactubes. It is a standalone app (make sure you get the latest version) that allows you, once you have set the player to quicktime, to play youtube videos outside of a browser, and without flash. Make sure you have Perian installed as well. As an added bonus, you can easily download the youtube videos with mactubes as well.

If you don't like mactubes for some reason, there is also Youview, its another standalone player that does the same thing, using ffmpeg instead of quicktime. Its free, but you have to pay the developer to be able to download though

If you must watch your youtube INSIDE the browser, well, I can help there too. Tenfourfox or Auroafox are you friends. You must have one of those. Download the Firefox Greasemonkey extension, then head over to userscripts.org. There you will search for, then install a greasemonkey script called "viewtube". This will replace flash with quicktime and you should be able to handle 360p video fine within the browser.

If you have Safari and Safariwebkit, then you can install the great click to plugin safari extension, which essentially does the same thing, replacing flash with quicktime. Apple optimized quicktime for h.264, so it does a better job than most at playing it back. Make sure you have the very latest quicktime available for PPC.

Sadly you are too late for the Coreplayer experience. Coreplayer was by far the best at playing back HD files on PPC macs, I could STREAM 720p from youtube on my 1.2 Ghz G4 ibook. Developers went under and Coreplayer is locked up forever, and you'll never get a copy, sorry.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 02:34 AM   #5
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The plugin rjcalifornia is talking about is here: http://www.steelbin.com/FPforFBPPC.zip
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 09:51 AM   #6
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I'm newbie here, my powerbook G4 12" 1.33 GHz is in excellent condition (cosmetically) but won't play youtube video's smoothly. It appears the video's are choppy and delayed. Adobe's web site-via youtube suggests i need to update or use current Adobe's version and, or, add plugins. Yes,I have tried to update but... only get old versions of Adobe that are no loner available, I feel like I'm going around in circles. Any suggestions?
Forget what I said. Do what the other guy say about grease monkey add on
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 09:54 AM   #7
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Or you can trick the website into thinking your version of flash is up to date to allow them to play when they check that you are using v11..

http://lowendmac.com/ed/royal/12sr/f...d-powerpc.html
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That's the plugin being mentioned twice and directly linked to.
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Old Nov 14, 2012, 09:33 PM   #9
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Your responses

THX to the following for your suggestions:
cocaolkid
rjcalifornia
imixmuan
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wobegong.

I will try all your suggestions...Will any Linux/Ubuntu apps work with mac?
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 07:45 PM   #10
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which one?

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That's the plugin being mentioned twice and directly linked to.

Grease monkey or mactubes?
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 10:58 PM   #11
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Yeah, coreplayer is gone.. but..

Hi, you wrote:

"Sadly you are too late for the Coreplayer experience. Coreplayer was by far the best at playing back HD files on PPC macs, I could STREAM 720p from youtube on my 1.2 Ghz G4 ibook. Developers went under and Coreplayer is locked up forever, and you'll never get a copy, sorry."

What about movist, niceplayer, or even XBMC? Wouldn't mplayer x be just as good as Coreplayer? I always wanted coreplayer, but missed out on it. I can still view 720p and some 1080p on my PowerBook G4, but it requires me to watch them through XBMC or even mplayer x.

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The plugin rjcalifornia is talking about is here: http://www.steelbin.com/FPforFBPPC.zip
I wonder if that guy will update flash for PowerPC as there is now version 11.6 I think. It shouldn't be too hard to do though with PowerPC anything is possible and with the right guy doing it. I believe his name on youtube is "1fatbastard" - sorry, but thats his name on youtube at least FPFPPC.ZIP points to the author as being 1fatbastard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCrAKhv3R_c
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Old Nov 17, 2012, 05:47 AM   #12
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Grease monkey or mactubes?
Neither, it's a plugin you place in a folder (instructions are in the downloadable file) to make your browser act as if you had a modern version of Flash and therefore get access to content that you usually would have trouble with.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 08:50 PM   #13
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Hi, you wrote:

"Sadly you are too late for the Coreplayer experience. Coreplayer was by far the best at playing back HD files on PPC macs, I could STREAM 720p from youtube on my 1.2 Ghz G4 ibook. Developers went under and Coreplayer is locked up forever, and you'll never get a copy, sorry."

What about movist, niceplayer, or even XBMC? Wouldn't mplayer x be just as good as Coreplayer? I always wanted coreplayer, but missed out on it. I can still view 720p and some 1080p on my PowerBook G4, but it requires me to watch them through XBMC or even mplayer x.

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I wonder if that guy will update flash for PowerPC as there is now version 11.6 I think. It shouldn't be too hard to do though with PowerPC anything is possible and with the right guy doing it. I believe his name on youtube is "1fatbastard" - sorry, but thats his name on youtube at least FPFPPC.ZIP points to the author as being 1fatbastard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCrAKhv3R_c

I had to chuckle, that was funny...but i will search it out.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 04:33 PM   #14
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[QUOTE=PowerPCMacMan;16312754]Hi, you wrote:

"Sadly you are too late for the Coreplayer experience. Coreplayer was by far the best at playing back HD files on PPC macs, I could STREAM 720p from youtube on my 1.2 Ghz G4 ibook. Developers went under and Coreplayer is locked up forever, and you'll never get a copy, sorry."

What about movist, niceplayer, or even XBMC? Wouldn't mplayer x be just as good as Coreplayer? I always wanted coreplayer, but missed out on it. I can still view 720p and some 1080p on my PowerBook G4, but it requires me to watch them through XBMC or even mplayer x.

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Nothing even remotely compares to Coreplayer on PPC. XBMC was a not so close second last time I tried it out, but on average Coreplayer is 40% more efficient than all others at playing the same file on PPC. So, a file that takes up 100% CPU cylces in say movist or mplayer X will only chew up 60%, and will thus play. On my ibook G4 that translated into 720p .mp4's taking 80-85% of CPU, and Mac OS X used up the rest. I can't have anything else open. Some claimed to be able to play 1080p with Coreplayer...maybe so on a fast G4 or G5, but not on a single processor.
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Hi, you wrote:

"Sadly you are too late for the Coreplayer experience. Coreplayer was by far the best at playing back HD files on PPC macs, I could STREAM 720p from youtube on my 1.2 Ghz G4 ibook. Developers went under and Coreplayer is locked up forever, and you'll never get a copy, sorry."

What about movist, niceplayer, or even XBMC? Wouldn't mplayer x be just as good as Coreplayer? I always wanted coreplayer, but missed out on it. I can still view 720p and some 1080p on my PowerBook G4, but it requires me to watch them through XBMC or even mplayer x.

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Nothing even remotely compares to Coreplayer on PPC. XBMC was a not so close second last time I tried it out, but on average Coreplayer is 40% more efficient than all others at playing the same file on PPC. So, a file that takes up 100% CPU cylces in say movist or mplayer X will only chew up 60%, and will thus play. On my ibook G4 that translated into 720p .mp4's taking 80-85% of CPU, and Mac OS X used up the rest. I can't have anything else open. Some claimed to be able to play 1080p with Coreplayer...maybe so on a fast G4 or G5, but not on a single processor.
Actually, Chroma for Mac OS was far better than Coreplayer. I used in my old ibook G3 and played avi 720x480 videos with no issues.
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Actually, Chroma for Mac OS was far better than Coreplayer. I used in my old ibook G3 and played avi 720x480 videos with no issues.
More info please. Have not heard of Chroma....
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More info please. Have not heard of Chroma....
It was because the website doesn't exist anymore. Luckily I bought just before it was gone. The bad thing was that I did not make a backup of the codecs, so I was not able to find the codecs to play MKV files.

Trust me, Chroma Player is the best for handling MKV movies.
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Another App bytes the dust :(

Geez.. looks like I can never get anything good anymore. First Coreplayer, and now Chroma Player. Does anyone have this?? Yeah, XBMC plays 720/1080p on my PowerBook G4 1.67 really nicely, but I'd prefer a much more powerful player.

If not Chroma or Coreplayer, what then can I use??



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It was because the website doesn't exist anymore. Luckily I bought just before it was gone. The bad thing was that I did not make a backup of the codecs, so I was not able to find the codecs to play MKV files.

Trust me, Chroma Player is the best for handling MKV movies.
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Geez.. looks like I can never get anything good anymore. First Coreplayer, and now Chroma Player. Does anyone have this?? Yeah, XBMC plays 720/1080p on my PowerBook G4 1.67 really nicely, but I'd prefer a much more powerful player.

If not Chroma or Coreplayer, what then can I use??



I still have a 'trial' version of Chroma It is a little suspicious that the best players for Mac PPC are now gone...
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I still have a 'trial' version of Chroma It is a little suspicious that the best players for Mac PPC are now gone...
Could you upload it?
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I found Chroma

on a forum somewhere...meh. I think the key to your past success was the file type, ie it was an .avi. Chroma chokes on h.264 on my ibook, I'd put it below Nice Player and Quicktime at handling h.264.
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Flash is a CPU/Memory hog... use the HTML5 youtube site.
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It was because the website doesn't exist anymore. Luckily I bought just before it was gone. The bad thing was that I did not make a backup of the codecs, so I was not able to find the codecs to play MKV files.

Trust me, Chroma Player is the best for handling MKV movies.
The Internet Archive states that to use MKV files, you will need Perian. It is still downloadable, too.
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