Have not seen a poll like this yet, so...
Explain what you think about the price.
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Explain what you think about the price.
(poll coming soon!)
There is no selection for this, but It was priced as if it had retina so Apple wouldn't have to increase the price next year.
18 month old technology for significantly more then new technology same sized tablets is disjointed. True the iOS has many advantages but that is not what most tablet buyers see.
Buyers see much cheaper tablet with more resolution and higher PPI in the competition.
OTOH, had Apple offered cheaper upgrades, say $100 for Cellular and $80 for memory upgrades to a $329 base price, it would look more attractive (seen plenty of 64gb WiFi in stock, none of the 16gb).
heh heh but yet the sales number does not support your thesis. Nexus 7 sold about 2.3M in the first 3 months when it first came out. And Ipad mini+Ipad 4 sold 3M in the first weekend. What does this sales number tell us? I think you are seeing first hand how the form factor difference and superior ecosystem allow Apple to charge more for their device.
Consumer sees the better spec, lower price but yet vote with their money and buy Ipad mini in drove. Looking at unit volume is one way to look at popularity of a product. Looking at profit generated is another way to measure popularity. Google and Amazon are sacrificing profit to generate unit volume. And even then they cannot out sell Ipad.. What does it say about how competitive Android tablet are right now??? Look at it this way, if Google wiling to give Nexus 7 for free, they can have the entire tablet market. But does Google win anything in that situation?
If you really want to compare spec, make sure you account for the form factor difference (4:3 and 16:9 are different), size difference (after all Ipad mini is a 7.9inches tablet vs a 7 inches Nexus 7 with similar way and similar size. The package make a difference here as well), and quality of apps difference. It is Apple sales pitch during launch but consumer vote with their money.. What are you going to say about that? dumb customers who don't know better or smart customers knowing exactly what they want and willing to pay up?
There is no selection for this, but It was priced as if it had retina so Apple wouldn't have to increase the price next year.
I think you might be right.
There is no selection for this, but It was priced as if it had retina so Apple wouldn't have to increase the price next year.
I agree with you analysis. However I own both an iPad and a Nexus 7 and currently I would not buy an iPad mainly because of price and the lack of USB data transfer. I could imagine that with time the Nexus 7 becomes a viable competitor to the iPad mini. As a newcomer the Nexus of course does not outsell the iPad mini with it's established brand recognition and ecosystem but in a year or two Apple could see it's growth rates reduced severely by Android tablets if they don't also compete on price.
heh heh but yet the sales number does not support your thesis. Nexus 7 sold about 2.3M in the first 3 months when it first came out. And Ipad mini+Ipad 4 sold 3M in the first weekend. What does this sales number tell us?
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What are you going to say about that? dumb customers who don't know better or smart customers knowing exactly what they want and willing to pay up?
You keep saying this, but it is just not true.There is no selection for this, but It was priced as if it had retina so Apple wouldn't have to increase the price next year.
How is that clouding reality? That is the reality. Apple has never, and likely will never, participate in the razor-thin margin club.Years of charging high prices have clouded customers view of reality. If it's made by Apple they are programmed to expect premium pricing.
There's no connection between the two points. The iPad mini costs more to make than the products you're referring to, and it's being sold by a company with a pretty stable pricing model. There's no magical misdirection there. It is what it is.Only Apple could sell a tablet with a much lower ppi value than it's competition and still price it in the stratosphere.
I keep seeing these silly pie charts all the time but can someone tell me where is this data actually coming from? Especially when Amazon never reveals sales figures for the Kindle Fire? How do we know it has 21% market share? And 21% market share of what? How do we even know what the total market is? Again, who on the android side is revealing sales figures for their tablet? Even Asus with the Nexus 7 didn't give out hard figures. All they said is they were selling about a million a month. Microsoft has never released sales figures for the Surface RT.IMO,
Last year a $329, even $399, would be a good price for the mini.
Over the year <9" tablet market saw a deluge of Android tablets, from $70 to $300, and of course Amazon's Fire, a lower end segment not addressed by iPad.
Granted, the Fire is an extremely restricted store front for Amazon, it and the Google Nexus 7 have set a new expectations for the price of that segment.
Androids gains in small tablet market.
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Even though $200 tablets are not expected to be the best, buyers are not expecting it to be top of line. Yes, people are sacrificing performance for price.
Long after the party is over (and new Fire HD on market), Apple introduces its own "low cost but low performance small tablet", however it uses basically 18 month old design in a smaller package, AND sells its parent design for $70 more!
18 month old technology for significantly more then new technology same sized tablets is disjointed. True the iOS has many advantages but that is not what most tablet buyers see.
Buyers see much cheaper tablet with more resolution and higher PPI in the competition.
OTOH, had Apple offered cheaper upgrades, say $100 for Cellular and $80 for memory upgrades to a $329 base price, it would look more attractive (seen plenty of 64gb WiFi in stock, none of the 16gb).
How is that clouding reality? That is the reality. Apple has never, and likely will never, participate in the razor-thin margin club.
There's no connection between the two points. The iPad mini costs more to make than the products you're referring to, and it's being sold by a company with a pretty stable pricing model. There's no magical misdirection there. It is what it is.