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Old Nov 9, 2012, 06:40 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Apple TV subtitle size ! subler

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I use subler to add subtitle and change m4v file properties ... but I can't understand why always subtitle font size is same ! even when I change at (scaled size) ... any hints - and how to preview real size before test it with atv3 cause quicktime+itunes font size is ok

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Old Nov 9, 2012, 08:46 AM   #2
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I've found they are a bit small as well. I think Apple TV just displays SRT subtitles the same way no matter what. If you use SRT subtitles they look totally different if you play the file on the mac through VLC or some other programme.

Maybe try using a bitmap subtitle file?

I also found this thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1067678
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Old Nov 9, 2012, 01:43 PM   #3
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This is unfortunately iOS's fault and nothing more. No matter how many times you try to change the settings in Subler, it won't change anything.

You should try to watch a movie with Subtitles on the iPhone 4, fun times.

Best thing to do is file some feedback to Apple and hope they fix it in the next update.
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Old Nov 9, 2012, 02:57 PM   #4
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Sorry to go off topic a bit, but how do you actually load an SRT file so that when you are playing a movie through Apple TV that you have an option to turn subtitles on or off??


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Old Nov 9, 2012, 03:03 PM   #5
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Sorry to go off topic a bit, but how do you actually load an SRT file so that when you are playing a movie through Apple TV that you have an option to turn subtitles on or off??


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You either have to imbed when you transcode to an mp4 (using HB) or add it after transcoding using Subler (import>file)
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 04:46 AM   #6
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You either have to imbed when you transcode to an mp4 (using HB) or add it after transcoding using Subler (import>file)
you can't imbed, srt !!! only bitmap subs ... idx..etc
so this is bad !!
I just make a request in apple support ! maybe they well answer and I ask about increase subs.. !! this really stupid (it's only subs) every cheap stream could do that !

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Old Nov 10, 2012, 09:23 AM   #7
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you can't imbed, srt !!! only bitmap subs ... idx..etc
so this is bad !!
I just make a request in apple support ! maybe they well answer and I ask about increase subs.. !! this really stupid (it's only subs) every cheap stream could do that !

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Unfortunately, I have to disagree with you. Under the subtitle tab in HB, there is a selection for adding and external srt. Have done it many times.
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 09:50 AM   #8
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Unfortunately, I have to disagree with you. Under the subtitle tab in HB, there is a selection for adding and external srt. Have done it many times.
I agree with u ! that u can put external srt sub !! and that's what am talking about ! ... problem is with ATV ! you can't increase subs font size ! that's all about ...

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Old Nov 11, 2012, 02:31 PM   #9
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You either have to imbed when you transcode to an mp4 (using HB) or add it after transcoding using Subler (import>file)
Thanks for the help.
Subler is only available for OSX... Anything for Windows?
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Old Nov 21, 2012, 10:12 PM   #10
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So anyone figured out how to increase subtitles in atv3?
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 05:03 AM   #11
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I just noticed that the subtitles don't have black background any more. I wonder if that is do with an update?
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 05:11 PM   #12
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p.s ClosedCaption (cc) <> srt (deferent) = not same
Apple use cc !
I tried many ways to change font size using scaled size (subler)
can anybody point me to sample mp4 movie include cc subs to check configs ?
I can't find over internet an Apple Native MP4 with cc subs

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Old Nov 23, 2012, 05:02 AM   #13
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I just noticed that the subtitles don't have black background any more. I wonder if that is do with an update?
CC's still have black background (just tested this on my ATV3 with Men in Black HD streamed directly from Apple) - and textual, embedded subtitles (which are a completely different things) never had.

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p.s ClosedCaption (cc) <> srt (deferent) = not same
Apple use cc !
I tried many ways to change font size using scaled size (subler)
can anybody point me to sample mp4 movie include cc subs to check configs ?
I can't find over internet an Apple Native MP4 with cc subs

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https://dl.dropbox.com/u/81986513/11...ppleCCtest.mov

I've extracted this from the second video at https://itunes.apple.com/us/itunes-u...nt/id480479762 . Works just great on the AppleTV 3.

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So anyone figured out how to increase subtitles in atv3?
Only by burning them in right to the video stream (which also means a complete reencode & image quality loss) with an app, with increased size. IMHO it doesn't worth the hassle if you have a sufficiently new (2010+ model) iDevice with a HDMI or VGA adapter - just use it with a subtitle charset-setting capable player. (It's Playing, nPlayer, yaPlayer, CinemaXHD etc. - see my dedicated articles in the iPad forum here at MR)
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 05:50 PM   #14
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CC's still have black background (just tested this on my ATV3 with Men in Black HD streamed directly from Apple) - and textual, embedded subtitles (which are a completely different things) never had.[COLOR="#808080"]

I've extracted this from the second video at https://itunes.apple.com/us/itunes-u...nt/id480479762 . Works just great on the AppleTV 3.[COLOR="#808080"]
I've just published a FULL, all-in-one, HUGE article on CC's, their extraction etc. Feel free to check out http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=16353030

Feedback is, as usual, welcome
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