Performance reduced after EFI update on MacBook Pro Retina - Page 7

kahuna0k · Nov 19, 2012, 07:16 AM

I have called applecare today with this problem, and they told me that they are aware of the problem. So I suggest everybody with applecare to call just to make them aware that the problem is a BIG problem.

Regards,

kurinzo · Nov 19, 2012, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahuna0k

I have called applecare today with this problem, and they told me that they are aware of the problem. So I suggest everybody with applecare to call just to make them aware that the problem is a BIG problem.

Regards,

Is this good news, or bad?

What do you think, will Apple release a fix for our problem after that calls?

kurinzo · Nov 19, 2012, 02:56 PM

Hey, guys, i have an idea.
What about taking out EFI old firmware (from not updated Retina-book, from EFI partition)
MBP101_00EE_B00_LOCKED.scap and flash it via terminal? Will it help?

terraphantm · Nov 19, 2012, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurinzo

Hey, guys, i have an idea.
What about taking out EFI old firmware (from not updated Retina-book, from EFI partition)
MBP101_00EE_B00_LOCKED.scap and flash it via terminal? Will it help?

I don't remember seeing such a file in my EFI partition before I flashed (I did look) - but if you've got one, I think it's worth a try

kurinzo · Nov 20, 2012, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terraphantm

I don't remember seeing such a file in my EFI partition before I flashed (I did look) - but if you've got one, I think it's worth a try

lol, i didn't thought about it.
In a real, i dont know where to get this file.
I thought somebody can extract firmware from stock rMBP, but i dont know - can it be done, or not?

kahuna0k · Nov 20, 2012, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurinzo

Is this good news, or bad?

What do you think, will Apple release a fix for our problem after that calls?

I do not know, but I think they prioritise things based on the number of affected users, or so should they do :-D

kurinzo · Nov 20, 2012, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahuna0k

I do not know, but I think they prioritise things based on the number of affected users, or so should they do :-D

Oh.
I wrote a letter to Tim Cook

BaNNeR766 · Nov 22, 2012, 06:44 AM

so , any news ?

kurinzo · Nov 22, 2012, 04:53 PM

No...

caesarox · Nov 23, 2012, 10:11 AM

Good news for us ... I've talked to an Apple employee these days, and he said that Apple knows this problem and is working on fixing this with the next EFI Upgrade for Retina MacBooks. So stay tuned ... Apple software engineers are working on it.

Maybe the problem is fixed within the next few weeks ...

kurinzo · Nov 23, 2012, 10:53 AM

And they gave no ETA.

Oh. Ill hope they will release update faster faster

BaNNeR766 · Nov 23, 2012, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurinzo

And they gave no ETA.

Oh. Ill hope they will release update faster faster

2 months have passed , they are fastter then light...

kurinzo · Nov 23, 2012, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaNNeR766

2 months have passed , they are fastter then light...

I did not expected this from Apple...
No ETA, 2 months passed - no fix. Oh god. Bless Steve.

houkouonchi · Nov 23, 2012, 06:03 PM

If anyone wants here is the EFI boot file in my macbook pro retina:

http://box.houkouonchi.jp/Firmware.scap

It was in this folder on the EFI partition:

/EFI/APPLE/EXTENSIONS

I primarily run linux so I have not done any of the apple updates nor have i seen/noticed an issue like everyone talks about in the thread.

kahuna0k · Nov 23, 2012, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houkouonchi

If anyone wants here is the EFI boot file in my macbook pro retina:

http://box.houkouonchi.jp/Firmware.scap

It was in this folder on the EFI partition:

/EFI/APPLE/EXTENSIONS

I primarily run linux so I have not done any of the apple updates nor have i seen/noticed an issue like everyone talks about in the thread.

It is exactly the same that I have on my MacBook Pro Retina with EFI updated. What about the content of /EFI/APPLE/FIRMWARE ?

houkouonchi · Nov 24, 2012, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahuna0k

It is exactly the same that I have on my MacBook Pro Retina with EFI updated. What about the content of /EFI/APPLE/FIRMWARE ?

I don't have that firmware folder at all:

Code:

root@rmbp: 08:47 AM :/efi# ls -lsah EFI/APPLE
total 2.0K
512 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 512 2012-06-18 23:24 .
512 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 512 2012-07-15 09:44 ..
512 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 512 2012-06-18 23:24 CACHES
512 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 2012-06-14 07:21 EXTENSIONS
root@rmbp: 08:47 AM :/efi# ls -lsah EFI/APPLE/CACHES/
total 1.5K
512 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 512 2012-06-18 23:24 .
512 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 512 2012-06-18 23:24 ..
512 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 2012-06-18 23:24 CAFEBEEF
root@rmbp: 08:47 AM :/efi# ls -lsah EFI/APPLE/CACHES/CAFEBEEF/
total 1.0K
512 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 2012-06-18 23:24 .
512 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 512 2012-06-18 23:24 ..
root@rmbp: 08:47 AM :/efi# ls -lsah EFI/APPLE/EXTENSIONS/
total 16M
512 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 2012-06-14 07:21 .
512 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 512 2012-06-18 23:24 ..
16M -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16M 2012-06-18 11:13 Firmware.scap
root@rmbp: 08:47 AM :/efi#

kahuna0k · 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houkouonchi

I don't have that firmware folder at all:

Uhmm really strange

Code:

/EFI:
total 1
drwxrwxrwx  1 german  staff  512 Sep  7 14:16 APPLE

./EFI/APPLE:
total 2
drwxrwxrwx  1 german  staff  512 Sep  7 03:32 EXTENSIONS
drwxrwxrwx  1 german  staff  512 Sep 20 02:15 FIRMWARE

./EFI/APPLE/EXTENSIONS:
total 30722
-rwxrwxrwx  1 german  staff  15729264 Sep  7 03:32 Firmware.scap

./EFI/APPLE/FIRMWARE:
total 16514
-rwxrwxrwx  1 german  staff  8454768 Sep 20 02:15 MBP101_00EE_B02_LOCKED.scap

that's the content of my EFI partition, so it seems that the new EFI is the MBP101_00EE_B02_LOCKED.scap

maybe just that file is loaded during boot up "fixing" what apple thinks need to be fixed. I should check if there is any info on Mac EFI boot up procedure. And what happens if I remove that file.

Edit: I downloaded the EFI update package and check the content and the scripts, it use the bless command to mount the new firmware (the .scap file) so maybe the copy under /EFI is only for installation, but we cannot got the old one back. So we need to wait for Apple fixing it.

beestigbeestje · Nov 26, 2012, 11:41 AM

I redid a clean install to 10.8.0 but the issue still stands. Performance is bad, even playing Borderlands 2 it at the lowest settings.

Updated again to 10.8.2

I came across this

But I can't seem to find the files anywhere.

Junkyman · Nov 28, 2012, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beestigbeestje

I redid a clean install to 10.8.0 but the issue still stands. Performance is bad, even playing Borderlands 2 it at the lowest settings.

Updated again to 10.8.2

I came across this

But I can't seem to find the files anywhere.

Has anyone successfully tried this?

kurinzo · Nov 28, 2012, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkyman

Has anyone successfully tried this?

no success...

bill-p · Nov 28, 2012, 04:55 PM

I accidentally left my rMBP on when I slid it into my bag the other day...

And as you can guess, the fan went full blast. The computer was piping hot inside. By the time I reached for the bag, it was 5 hours later. The CPU was reporting 110C.

So I left it alone for the fan to go full blast for 30 minutes, and then I started checking for various things.

No problem. EFI bug didn't occur. So obviously it wasn't triggered by temperature... Either that or I somehow got rid of it for good.

beestigbeestje · 06:02 AM

Been testing 10.8.3 for a couple of hours and performance seems to be a lot better.
Will be testing it more later today.

Borderlands 2 is playable at 1920x1200 settings on medium/high. (OSX)
Before it struggled with 1440x900 at low settings when it got hotter.

EDIT: it's not fixed in 10.8.3
Once the gpu get's up to temperature, performance drops again.

kurinzo · Nov 29, 2012, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beestigbeestje

Been testing 10.8.3 for a couple of hours and performance seems to be a lot better.
Will be testing it more later today.

Borderlands 2 is playable at 1920x1200 settings on medium/high. (OSX)
Before it struggled with 1440x900 at low settings when it got hotter.

EDIT: it's not fixed in 10.8.3
Once the gpu get's up to temperature, performance drops again.

We need EFI/SMC update. Not OS update.

beestigbeestje · Nov 29, 2012, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurinzo

We need EFI/SMC update. Not OS update.

Couldn't hurt to try it.
Anyway, stay away from the beta. It freezes the computer every now and then.

kurinzo · Dec 2, 2012, 04:05 AM

still no updates from Apple.

Nov 26, 2012, 11:41 AM	#168
beestigbeestje macrumors regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Belgium	Reinstalled my OS I redid a clean install to 10.8.0 but the issue still stands. Performance is bad, even playing Borderlands 2 it at the lowest settings. Updated again to 10.8.2 I came across this But I can't seem to find the files anywhere. __________________ Santa Rosa Macbook pro 2.4Ghz 4gb RAM Retina Macbook Pro 15 inch 2,6ghz 16gb ram iPhone 4 - AppleTV 2 - iPad 2
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Nov 29, 2012, 03:25 AM	#172
beestigbeestje macrumors regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Belgium	Maybe fixed Been testing 10.8.3 for a couple of hours and performance seems to be a lot better. Will be testing it more later today. Borderlands 2 is playable at 1920x1200 settings on medium/high. (OSX) Before it struggled with 1440x900 at low settings when it got hotter. EDIT: it's not fixed in 10.8.3 Once the gpu get's up to temperature, performance drops again. __________________ Santa Rosa Macbook pro 2.4Ghz 4gb RAM Retina Macbook Pro 15 inch 2,6ghz 16gb ram iPhone 4 - AppleTV 2 - iPad 2 Last edited by beestigbeestje; Nov 29, 2012 at 06:02 AM.
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Nov 19, 2012, 07:16 AM	#151
kahuna0k macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2012	I have called applecare today with this problem, and they told me that they are aware of the problem. So I suggest everybody with applecare to call just to make them aware that the problem is a BIG problem. Regards,
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Nov 19, 2012, 02:56 PM	#153
kurinzo macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	Hey, guys, i have an idea. What about taking out EFI old firmware (from not updated Retina-book, from EFI partition) MBP101_00EE_B00_LOCKED.scap and flash it via terminal? Will it help?
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Nov 22, 2012, 06:44 AM	#158
BaNNeR766 macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	so , any news ?
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Nov 22, 2012, 04:53 PM	#159
kurinzo macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	No...
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Nov 23, 2012, 10:11 AM	#160
caesarox macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	Good news for us ... I've talked to an Apple employee these days, and he said that Apple knows this problem and is working on fixing this with the next EFI Upgrade for Retina MacBooks. So stay tuned ... Apple software engineers are working on it. Maybe the problem is fixed within the next few weeks ...
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Nov 23, 2012, 10:53 AM	#161
kurinzo macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	And they gave no ETA. Oh. Ill hope they will release update faster faster
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Nov 23, 2012, 06:03 PM	#164
houkouonchi macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2005	If anyone wants here is the EFI boot file in my macbook pro retina: http://box.houkouonchi.jp/Firmware.scap It was in this folder on the EFI partition: /EFI/APPLE/EXTENSIONS I primarily run linux so I have not done any of the apple updates nor have i seen/noticed an issue like everyone talks about in the thread.
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Nov 28, 2012, 04:55 PM	#171
bill-p macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jul 2011	I accidentally left my rMBP on when I slid it into my bag the other day... And as you can guess, the fan went full blast. The computer was piping hot inside. By the time I reached for the bag, it was 5 hours later. The CPU was reporting 110C. So I left it alone for the fan to go full blast for 30 minutes, and then I started checking for various things. No problem. EFI bug didn't occur. So obviously it wasn't triggered by temperature... Either that or I somehow got rid of it for good.
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Dec 2, 2012, 04:05 AM	#175
kurinzo macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	still no updates from Apple.
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