Un activated Verizon iPhone 5 locked?

The best buy girl didnt know what she was talking about.
It should activate with any gsm sim.
Hope she didnt give you a Sprint iphone or AT&T.

Start off by powering up the phone with the Verizon SIM card in it. While the phone is on and at the home screen, pull out the sim and put in the tmobile sim

Do a factory restore if necessary. Very strange

Make sure its plugged into itunes when you're trying to activate it or connect it to wifi when trying to activate with the new tmobile nanosim.

No, I doubt the verizon sim has anything to do with it.
What is the model number in the back plate listed on the iphone 5?
I know everyone that bought verizon iphone 5 models they never had to activate them at all with verizon.
They activate with any sim you put in with no probs.

jumpfrog said:

Model is A1429
Thanks

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Yes, that's the right one.
When u plug in the Tmobile nano sim what does it display?
Sim not supported or no service?

Applejuiced said:

No, I doubt the verizon sim has anything to do with it.
What is the model number in the back plate listed on the iphone 5?
I know everyone that bought verizon iphone 5 models they never had to activate them at all with verizon.
They activate with any sim you put in with no probs.

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That's what I heard and I also just got a verizon iphone 5 at full price from best buy today but i didn't tested with a different sim yet. I hope mine works unlocked, also how can I certify that mine does in fact works with other carriers? I don't have a t-mobile or att sim card :/

I bought because I'm gonna use it in another country

Did you turn LTE off? General, celluar. Insert sim card, and then reset network settings. You should not have to turn LTE off, but since you are using it on T mobile, you wont have access to LTE anyways.

marcelo4527 said:

That's what I heard and I also just got a verizon iphone 5 at full price from best buy today but i didn't tested with a different sim yet. I hope mine works unlocked, also how can I certify that mine does in fact works with other carriers? I don't have a t-mobile or att sim card :/

I bought because I'm gonna use it in another country

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The only way to really be able to tell you have to get a Tmobile nano sim.

Applejuiced said:

The only way to really be able to tell you have to get a Tmobile nano sim.

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I've been thinking about just getting a cheap t-mobile nano sim or even a regular one and cut it to fit the iphone.. But can I just get an unactivated t-mobile sim, or do I need to activate the sim in order to tell if if my phone is unlocked?

jumpfrog said:

Hi, I think it said no service in the shop. I haven't bought the sim yet.
Does Verizon need to activate the phone first??

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It probably said no service because the sim was still unactivated!! I'm pretty sure that means your phone is unlocked because locked phones say Invalid Sim when you try putting a different carrier's sim!

I'm pretty sure that's how it is but since i haven't tested myself yet i can't confirm to you

jumpfrog said:

Hi, I think it said no service in the shop. I haven't bought the sim yet.
Does Verizon need to activate the phone first??

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Buy the sim, take it home and insert in phone, activate via your itunes account. I think the very first time you activate a verizon phone and not using their sim will require activation through intunes with t mobile sim.

jumpfrog said:

Hi, I think it said no service in the shop. I haven't bought the sim yet.
Does Verizon need to activate the phone first??

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If it said no service then your iphone recognized the new sim, but your sim wasn't activated. Buy the sim and activate with a T-mobile plan or buy one of those pre paid cards to activate your sim and then you should be able to get signal.

You do not need to connect to itunes at all to activate your verizon iphone 5, it comes factory unlocked, so you just have to insert an active sim card from any carrier in your phone

jumpfrog said:

The problem is that I took my laptop into the T Mobile store and he still couldn't activate it with everything in front of him. We tried with/without sim, disconnecting then connecting etc. Nothing worked I'm really confused.
Could it be that the phone is CDMA rather than GSM??!

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Verizon is CDMA with GSM bands. The CDMA part is locked, it's the GSM bands that are unlocked with the Verizon phone. Which means t mobile should work. Did he try a different sim? It could have been a bad sim.

darster said:

Verizon is CDMA with GSM bands. The CDMA part is locked, it's the GSM bands that are unlocked with the Verizon phone. Which means t mobile should work. Did he try a different sim? It could have been a bad sim.

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Like he said it comes unlocked out of the bo for GSM, and it should work.
Locked iPhones say Invalid Sim when you try to put a sim from a different carrier so since your iphone said No Signal it means that it recognized the sim, but you need to try with an active sim, don't expect to get signal from an unactivated sim

marcelo4527 said:

Like he said it comes unlocked out of the bo for GSM, and it should work.
Locked iPhones say Invalid Sim when you try to put a sim from a different carrier so since your iphone said No Signal it means that it recognized the sim, but you need to try with an active sim, don't expect to get signal from an unactivated sim

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Exactly. Me thinks the t mobile guy forgot to actually activate the sim in their system first. You can also do that online via tmobile. Other sim cards require you to enter an activation code during setup. It's more than just putting a sim in the phone and turning on.

My Tmobile sim in the i5 said no service too. After a minute or 2 it connected fine though.
Just leave it inside and it will recognize it and connect eventually.

jumpfrog said:

Ok thanks guys. I'll give it a try tomorrow and mention how I get on.

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Don't forget to let us know how that went

Applejuiced said:

The only way to really be able to tell you have to get a Tmobile nano sim.

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Why? AT&T checks their database of iPhone 5 and only works with their own iPhone 5's? Wouldn't AT&T's SIM work with an unlocked phone that Apple is selling? (The GSM portion that is, I think the LTE wouldn't work because on different band).

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darster said:

Did you turn LTE off? General, celluar. Insert sim card, and then reset network settings. You should not have to turn LTE off, but since you are using it on T mobile, you wont have access to LTE anyways.

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Why is that? The T-Mobile doesn't support LTE? Or it is on a LTE band not supported by the iPhone 5 verizon model? Isn't T-Mobile using the same bands as AT&T?

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darster said:

Verizon is CDMA with GSM bands. The CDMA part is locked, it's the GSM bands that are unlocked with the Verizon phone. Which means t mobile should work. Did he try a different sim? It could have been a bad sim.

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What do you mean CDMA locked? Locked to Verizon (can use any Verizon SIM)? Locked to one CDMA SIM account of Verizon (so they pay off the 2 year plan?)? If it is locked why are people saying that the Verizon iPhone 5 supports CDMA SIM? Meaning they can take out the SIM and put it into another phone and get it to make calls? Would the iPhone 5 Verizon phone be able to make calls on the Verizon CDMA network if the SIM is removed? Or is it only used to make LTE related calls or internet?

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Applejuiced said:

My Tmobile sim in the i5 said no service too. After a minute or 2 it connected fine though.
Just leave it inside and it will recognize it and connect eventually.

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Can you take out your Verizon iPhone 5 SIM and see if it still makes calls? Didn't you say the CDMA is burned inside the phone and the SIM is only used to store LTE stuff? I would like to get a verification on this whether the CDMA stuff is attached to the SIM or attached to the iPhone 5 (for Verizon specifically)