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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:07 PM   #1
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Apple and Samsung Seek to Extend Infringement Claims in Second U.S. Patent Lawsuit




Both Apple and Samsung are continuing the patent battle in the courtroom with a second patent infringement lawsuit filed in August. This is a separate U.S. lawsuit from the $1 billion verdict that was awarded to Apple.

Due to the early stages of this lawsuit, both sides are trying to extend the scope of their case against the latest products from each company. Last week, Samsung sought to extend the infringement claims to include the iPad 4 and iPad mini. Days later, Apple also brought a motion to include several recent Samsung products, including the Galaxy S III, Galaxy Note II, Galaxy Tab 8.9 Wifi, Galaxy Tab 2 10.1, Rugby Pro and Samsung S III Mini.

Samsung had previously moved to add the iPhone 5 to the U.S. lawsuit shortly after its release. As noted by FOSS Patents, this latest Samsung/Apple lawsuit won't even go to trial until March 2014.

Article Link: Apple and Samsung Seek to Extend Infringement Claims in Second U.S. Patent Lawsuit
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:09 PM   #2
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Another who cares patent blah blah.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:10 PM   #3
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I think at this point, a news article should be posted on MacRumors' front page when there ISN'T an Apple patent lawsuit going on. THAT would be news!!
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:11 PM   #4
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Great, at least 2 more years of lawsuit stories on MacRumors.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:16 PM   #5
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I wish they could just come to an agreement and start focusing on making products
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:17 PM   #6
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Stop Apple, just stop... give me a better UI experience! Focus on innovation, not litigation.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:17 PM   #7
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Everyone, even I, has been hating on Apple for all these lawsuits recently.

But think about it for a second. Apple invented the core technologies behind these devices, it doesn't matter if it's "old news" or a "tired story"... It's Apple fighting for innovation.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:20 PM   #8
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Stop Apple, just stop... give me a better UI experience! Focus on innovation, not litigation.
Yes, because Jony Ive is in the courtroom, every day, preparing legal documents. These kinds of comments are foolish.

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I wish they could just come to an agreement and start focusing on making products
Again like I said earlier, It's obvious that Jony Ive is in the courtroom every day preparing legal documents and court evidence... not making products. :/

Come on people, Apple employes thousands of people, the legal team is just some people working in a completely separate environment from the product guys.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:23 PM   #9
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No, thank you. That first one was enough.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:29 PM   #10
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they are fighting about a "volume control"?

This is all about a patient for a"Volume Control" (US Patent No. 7,672,470 )?

I am pretty sure that "volume controls" existed way before Samsung patented them.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:29 PM   #11
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This patent bs is out of hand. I used to sympathize with apple but its at the point where no one can "innovate" without being sued, including apple.

Wonder why iOS 6 was so blah and lacked major features?

At this point the answer is obvious.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:31 PM   #12
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Yes, because Jony Ive is in the courtroom, every day, preparing legal documents. These kinds of comments are foolish.
Even if he was, he has an entire team of designers.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:46 PM   #14
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Apple and samsungs lawyers must just see one thing only lol $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Even if he was, he has an entire team of designers.
That... was sarcasm...
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:49 PM   #16
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From today on, these eternal lawsuit stories should be posted under the "Who The Hell Cares Anymore" section. Seriously...

Apple will drag this forever, so we should learn to ignore them.

IMO, Apple fails to understand that they may win a few legal battles, but already lost the war. When it comes to software, android, with all it's benefits and flaws, even if it copied some features off iOS, is the dominant mobile OS. And when it comes to hardware, as good as the iPhone/iPad may be, the world will demand less expensive, more flexible alternatives, which may or may not be based on Apple's design principles (but whose ownership is very debatable).

Whether Apple likes it or not, it's products will remain with the top tier consumers, as they have always been. That's the only way they can keep full control of their closed environment, charging higher prices and higher profitability. All these lawsuits are Apple's stubborn way to fight these inevitable facts, and as described in his bio, one of Jobs' last wishes. I really hope they understood this, so we can all move on to better things for everyone.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 09:52 PM   #17
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my interpretation

I read this as "Lawyers Realize Cash Cow Can Still Dole Out Cash"
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From today on, these eternal lawsuit stories should be posted under the "Who The Hell Cares Anymore" section. Seriously...

Apple will drag this forever, so we should learn to ignore them.

IMO, Apple fails to understand that they may win a few legal battles, but already lost the war. When it comes to software, android, with all it's benefits and flaws, even if it copied some features off iOS, is the dominant mobile OS. And when it comes to hardware, as good as the iPhone/iPad may be, the world will demand less expensive alternatives that probably will be based on Apple's design principles (and whose property is very debatable).

Whether Apple likes it or not, it's products will remain with the top tier consumers, as they have always been. That's the only way they can keep full control of their closed environment, charging higher prices and higher profitability. All this lawsuits are Apple's stubborn way to fight these inevitable facts, and as described in his bio, one of Jobs' last wishes. I really hope they understood this, so we can all move on to better things for everyone.
I'm not attacking you, or in any way invalidating your opinion (Every time I seem to post a comment, the Mods say I'm doing that, mainly because of my New York state of mind, if you will).

It's about the $$$ - That's why Android has won. The carriers are pushing android phones so hard because they make more money. Less data use, less subsidy, more profit. If Apple can jam in an extra 10-20 dollars per offending unit, there goes a lot of the up-front benefit of selling Androids.

Also, If the message is sent that it's okay to ignore property, then who will pay for innovation?
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:01 PM   #19
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They should work together instead of suing each other. Would be better for all of us.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:01 PM   #20
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Stop Apple, just stop... give me a better UI experience! Focus on innovation, not litigation.
That ship's done sailed. Sad, really Apple. Sad.

They hear and feel footstepts. Feel sorry.

This is a tired litigation. Psst: there are other companies that produce good stuff too, AAPL. Compete or die.

And quit claiming you invented everything because you did not. I know, it's hard to digest, but swallow for dignity already.
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This is all about a patient for a"Volume Control" (US Patent No. 7,672,470 )?

I am pretty sure that "volume controls" existed way before Samsung patented them.
I'm pretty sure that "rectangle shape" existed before Apple patented it.
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Everyone, even I, has been hating on Apple for all these lawsuits recently.

But think about it for a second. Apple invented the core technologies behind these devices, it doesn't matter if it's "old news" or a "tired story"... It's Apple fighting for innovation.
What "core technologies" did Apple invent?

Multi touch? Nope
Capacitive screens? Nope
Mobile radio tech? None at all

Name one piece of actual tech, not software, that Apple "invented" that is in the iPhone.

Software patents are a different beast and many would agree that some patents that have been granted are a joke at best.
Copyright law should be sufficient in most of these cases.
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What "core technologies" did Apple invent?

Multi touch? Nope
Capacitive screens? Nope
Mobile radio tech? None at all

Name one piece of actual tech, not software, that Apple "invented" that is in the iPhone.

Software patents are a different beast and many would agree that some patents that have been granted are a joke at best.
Copyright law should be sufficient in most of these cases.
They are being exposed. Shhh.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:08 PM   #24
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Yes, because Jony Ive is in the courtroom, every day, preparing legal documents. These kinds of comments are foolish.
yes because Jony Ive is a one man team that has had UI design experience.
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At least this story is better than the Black Eyed Peas person developing an iPhone accessory. Not that much better. But better indeed.
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