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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:16 PM   #126
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I'm having sticker shock on the i7 upgrade on the 27". From what I can tell on NewEgg and elsewhere, the price difference between these two chips is $70-$80 at retail.

$2450 for a 27" with the i7 and a fusion drive. Sigh.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:16 PM   #127
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It'll stop when Apple releases a normal desktop where people can install any HD, SSD or RAM. While PC owners have thousands of options, Mac users have half a dozen and they all are severely overpriced.
Apple is not for you.

There are plenty of other options that will suit your needs.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:17 PM   #128
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The added time & effort you'll need to upgrade later, in addition to all the problems you'll have with the substitute memory, it's well worth the added cost now. Trust me, I've been there, done that.
I have maxed out the RAM beyond the apple recommended "max" on 3 iMacss and 3 Macbook pros, all with 3rd party RAM, and have never had one issue.

The "Time" and "effort" required to buy the extra RAM is well worth the $500 you will save by DIY.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:18 PM   #129
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Honestly guys i dont get how some people are shocked with RAM prices and storage, just get the 27inch model and upgrade yourself.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:19 PM   #130
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Well, I'll be getting the previous gen iMac. Can't get larger than a 1TB drive in the 21.5", only 5400rpm drives...no thanks.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:19 PM   #131
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I hoped the Fusion drive would be a bit cheaper... but I am very pleasantly surprised with such a small 680MX premium.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:20 PM   #132
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I'm updating from my 2007 MacBook Pro with a broken optical drive! I've been saving for this too! Getting the 27" with topped out specs...whoop! Sooo ready for an update!

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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:20 PM   #133
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Thinness is cool. Lighter weight is better! Ever have to carry a 27" iMac to the Apple Store for repair? OMG!
I'm happy to say that I've never had to carry any of my 27" iMacs other than to set them up. They just keep running, trouble free.

One trick I've done is to build a shallow box under my computer desk with a quiet fan on it. I then drilled several 1/4 or 3/8" holes in my desktop into the box right below any warm equipment on the desktop. Heat is the devil on any and all electrical equipment. Keeping it cool and ventilated is cheep and the best insurance you can get.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:20 PM   #134
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200 for the RAM.. give me a break
It has a nice apple logo on it

Idk - apple tax?
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:24 PM   #135
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I have maxed out the RAM beyond the apple recommended "max" on 3 iMacss and 3 Macbook pros, all with 3rd party RAM, and have never had one issue.

The "Time" and "effort" required to buy the extra RAM is well worth the $500 you will save by DIY.
The time and effort I've had ins not with purchase or installation, but with product failure. After doing it 2 times with multiple failures, I'll never do it again. I guess it's just luck of the draw.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:25 PM   #136
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:26 PM   #137
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This computer is TOP OF THE LINE awesome! Yes... thin IS in.

If you REALLY need power for scientific calculations and/or graphic animation... wait for the Mac Pro.

This is a CONSUMER desktop. This is what consumers want. And many of you "professionals" don't even NEED a Mac Pro for the things you need to get done.

If that's the case... this is for you. A quad core i7 option and a GTX 680mx GPU is ALL the power you'll need for the next 5 years. The GTX 680m is the most powerful mobile GPU on the market right now... and still some of you whine like little... meh.

The pricing actually came below what I had expected as I'll be purchasing a maxed out 27" iMac w/ 1TB Fusion Drive along with Apple Airplay, Apple TV and a new printer.

This is awesome and I personally can't wait.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:28 PM   #138
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if only the mac mini had the specs of an iMac :P mac mini is a word processing computer
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:29 PM   #139
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Get with the times. IPS 27" monitors are very cheap nowadays. For example, AOC I2757FH costs just $270 at Best Buy. It probably uses the same IPS panel as the iMacs (they all use the same LG panel). It's probably not as good as iMac's display but then iMac's display is not the best either. It's probably good enough for most people (not everyone edits photos for money).

GTX 680 ($450) + i5 ($180) + SSD ($300) + HDD (free) = about $950.
The AOC I2757FH is only 1920x1080 the iMac is 2560 x 1440.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:30 PM   #140
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Well, I'll be getting the previous gen iMac. Can't get larger than a 1TB drive in the 21.5", only 5400rpm drives...no thanks.
The 2011 iMac uses WD Blue drives, the 2012 will use either Green or Red (unlikely, but that would be an interesting option) which have variable spin speeds ranging from 5400 to 7200 on demand. The actual performance difference between all these drives is very small. Now, a WD Black would be faster, but I guess you will see them in the 27" model.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:31 PM   #141
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This computer is TOP OF THE LINE awesome! Yes... thin IS in.

If you REALLY need power for scientific calculations and/or graphic animation... wait for the Mac Pro.

This is a CONSUMER desktop. This is what consumers want. And many of you "professionals" don't even NEED a Mac Pro for the things you need to get done.

If that's the case... this is for you. A quad core i7 option and a GTX 680mx GPU is ALL the power you'll need for the next 5 years. The GTX 680m is the most powerful mobile GPU on the market right now... and still some of you whine like little... meh.

The pricing actually came below what I had expected as I'll be purchasing a maxed out 27" iMac w/ 1TB Fusion Drive along with Apple Airplay, Apple TV and a new printer.

This is awesome and I personally can't wait.
$2600 with base ram (not sure how much 3rd party to 32GB will cost) + Apple care + Taxes = probably more than you were expecting :P
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:31 PM   #142
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The AOC I2757FH is only 1920x1080 the iMac is 2560 x 1440.
The 27" 2560 x 1440 IPS Dell monitor is more comparable. I believe the price is around $800 bucks. I use one at work.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:32 PM   #143
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Call me old fashioned (I'm only 36), but I don't understand the need for a thinner, non-user upgradeable desktop system. Aside from the RAM, there is no way to upgrade the graphics, add PCIe cards, internal HDD/SSD's, etc. I realize general users may not need such requirements, however the advent of digital media has created a need for larger hard drives (hence the SSD boot and HDD combo's).

Additionally, I've been able to upgrade my 12-Core Mac Pro with USB 3, graphics cards, and other such upgrades thereby "future proofing" it to some extent. Businesses are realizing iMac's aren't the smartest decision; should it need repairs nothing can be done onsite - no replacing internal parts that a tower would allow. When AppleCare runs out after 3 years, you're SOL. At least a tower allows on-site IT repairs and upgrades.

Unless the iMac becomes more user/business friendly, this is a win for Apple; locking people into 3 year product cycles and Genius bar appointments for simple repairs. I know many claim this is a post-PC era, it may be a more mobile era as the mobile market increases however the desktop and power market has increased as well. If Apple abandons the Mac Pro, I could not do my work on an iMac.
You're old fashioned.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:32 PM   #144
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It'll stop when Apple releases a normal desktop where people can install any HD, SSD or RAM. While PC owners have thousands of options, Mac users have half a dozen and they all are severely overpriced.
Sounds like a hackintosh is right up your alley.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:32 PM   #145
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if only the mac mini had the specs of an iMac :P mac mini is a word processing computer
haha. only thing i'm missing is the GPU card..but the quad core i7 + 16GB ram + fusion drive handles PS, Lightroom, and Aperture well enough for me.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:32 PM   #146
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No option for fusion on the base 21.5 inch?

Hahaha. What a joke of a machine.

A Fusion drive on the 27 inch machine is more expensive than I'd hoped. A lot more.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:34 PM   #147
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I have MBP, MBA and an iPad. I was going to switch from windows to Mac on my desktop with this one. But there's absolutely no way I'm paying $ 1300 for an SSD. Total dealbreaker. It seems Apple is trying to push high-end users into the Fusion drives, considering that they don't offer a medium sized SSD upgrade. Well, I'm sure quite a few high-end users will not be pushed and will pick something entirely different.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:35 PM   #148
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haha. only thing i'm missing is the GPU card..but the quad core i7 + 16GB ram + fusion drive handles PS, Lightroom, and Aperture well enough for me.
that's actually pretty decent, i shouldn't make claims before updating my outdated knowledge of the mini.

Given these iMac prices I am thinking about going down the mini + external route now. It will be nice to upgrade just the computer and keep the screen. Thanks mate
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:36 PM   #149
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Looks likes I will be getting the 27" since I need more than 16 megs of RAM
The first Mac I bought had more than "more than 16 megs of RAM"...
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:36 PM   #150
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im waiting for the mac pro. if the pricing is just as ludicrous as this then ill build a new hackintosh with tunderbolt and just buy 2 TBD's.
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