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Old Dec 5, 2012, 05:23 PM   #151
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Not that it matters. Google already knows everything there is to know about you. They don't care if you use their stuff or not.

Yes. Google even knows that thing you did on March 24th, 1996. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 05:34 PM   #152
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im sorry to be rude... but no one is answering the main question here

WHAT THE FU3K! DID DID GOOGLE STEAL FROM APPLE?
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 05:55 PM   #153
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Steve Jobs:

“I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple’s $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I’m going to destroy Android, because it’s a stolen product.”

“I’m going to destroy Android, because it’s a stolen product. I’m willing to go thermonuclear war on this.”

Does this sound like a man who agrees with your interpretation of the "timeline"
He lost though and it cost him his life.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 06:17 PM   #154
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Apple had a contract with Google. Contract ended. Apple didn't renew.

I think Google thought that Apple would 'come to their senses' - figure out that Maps and YouTube were needed, and renew at the 11th hour. Google bet all their chips that this would happen. It didn't. Google had to scramble, and is now blaming Apple for Google not having a backup plan.

Google has the best products, but they had a snobby attitude that Apple would continue to use their products. It bit them in the arse when Apple decided to compete with Google.

Now Eric Schmidt is trying to save face by spinning this.
I thought I read on this site Apple still had 2 years left on Google's contract.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 08:32 PM   #155
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I know from firsthand experience that Google+ tried smothering me in my sleep once.

Gmail was much more up front about it's attempts to kill me. Fortunately, I was too quick for it, and was able to knock the knife out of its hand before it got too close.

Wave knocked up my girlfriend.

Yes. Google products are truly something to be feared.
This HAS to be true, while using chrome the screen flickered and then the house went dark briefly Seriously though it just amuses me when I see posts about the evil Google.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 08:32 PM   #156
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The thing is, Android is a stolen product. Apple will not stop until it has destroyed Android. Apple will right this wrong.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 08:34 PM   #157
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At least no other tech company was dumb enough to put Schmidt on their board after he showed his true snake self.

Don't let this guy into your house without patting him down for cameras and recording devices first.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 08:37 PM   #158
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Example: Humans are bound to get faster than light travel someday. Do you think the inventor of the method/machine will patent it? You're damn right he will.
This post should win some sort of award.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 08:48 PM   #159
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This HAS to be true, while using chrome the screen flickered and then the house went dark briefly
Yup, that's Chrome for you. There's always a bit of power drain when it kicks up the generators and goes into nutsuck irradiation mode.

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This post should win some sort of award.
I'm hoping future society won't consider bounceback and pinch to zoom as having the same cultural relevance as FTL travel.

...which NASA is currently experimenting with, by the way.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 09:32 PM   #160
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Theft is still theft, Eric.
What did Google steal?
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 09:50 PM   #161
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Uh, no. My opinion that Google has stolen some aspects and features of iOS STEMS from my knowledge of the patents Apple possesses. I didn't form an opinion at all until I saw the evidence presented. Do not guess at my intentions here.
Fair enough.

1) Which patents are you referring to?

2) Do you understand that you don't have to steal anything to infringe on a patent?

Thanks!
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 09:52 PM   #162
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The thing is, Android is a stolen product. Apple will not stop until it has destroyed Android. Apple will right this wrong.
I'm pretty sure Taco Bell has stolen from me as well. Can Apple destroy em too?
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 09:56 PM   #163
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"......and how Apple is currently embroiled in legal drama with Google's Android partners rather than Google itself."

That's because Apple has to show that the other company (Samsung) using the copied product is profiting. Google is not profiting from Android since it gives it out for free- just like the boxes that help you bootleg cable for free in the '80s, you couldn't sue the maker- only the user.

But go ahead Google, fight your proxy patent war with Apple through Samsung. The objective is to water down the Apple patent portfolio. At the end of the day, it will come back to haunt Google.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 11:43 PM   #164
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But go ahead Google, fight your proxy patent war with Apple through Samsung. The objective is to water down the Apple patent portfolio. At the end of the day, it will come back to haunt Google.
Right now, it doesn't look like it's haunting anybody but Apple. Yeah, they've won a few battles here and there, but their one major target has become the biggest selling Android manufacturer despite all the legal withering fire. Their only stunning victory has been blunted by the USPTO after the fact, so they can't turn around and sue other Android manufacturers for pinch to zoom anymore. Most of Apple's wins have been over piddling things that are more a minor inconvenience than a fatal blow to the losing side.

Steve Job's masturbatory thermonuclear war has been a waste of time for everyone involved, and hasn't done anyone any favors, least of all Apple. If he intended the final act of his legacy to be the destruction of Google, the only thing he's done is set up his own Waterloo.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 12:02 AM   #165
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Google has the best products, but they had a snobby attitude that Apple would continue to use their products.
Similar to Apple's snobby attitude with just about every company on the planet?
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 01:19 AM   #166
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lol.... "the adult way" .. Excuse me Mr. Google. but your maps sux.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 04:16 AM   #167
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Except no one ever accused him of that except a few Apple fan forum goers. Where did the "Eric stole while on the board" meme start anyway ?
Where have you been? This came from Steve Jobs, it was in his biography and all over the internet.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 04:29 AM   #168
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What did Google steal?
The idea to produce a touch screen interface for smartphones that didn't suck like all previous attempts had. Android was a Blackberry style OS for hardware keypad phones when Google bought it. When the mole saw what Apple was doing, he took some ideas back to Google. As a result, Android changed direction.

That was Steve's version of events, and I'm inclined to believe him over the mole.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 04:42 AM   #169
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The idea to produce a touch screen interface for smartphones that didn't suck
You're not serious, are you?
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 04:46 AM   #170
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Where have you been? This came from Steve Jobs, it was in his biography and all over the internet.
Steve never accused Eric Schmidt of anything in his biography.

It's all over the Internet because people made it up and spread it.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 07:38 AM   #171
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Perfectly.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 07:53 AM   #172
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Steve never accused Eric Schmidt of anything in his biography.
Go to page 511.

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It's all over the Internet because people made it up and spread it.
If you read the biography and don't come away with the impression that Steve felt Google had copied Apple, and that he considered Schmidt's actions as a personal betrayal, you are in denial.
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Perfectly.

Perfectly joking then, because saying that there is the idea of touch interface that doesn't suck what was copied is one of the silliest thing I have read here. And the competition is hard.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 08:20 AM   #174
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If you read the biography and don't come away with the impression that Steve felt Google had copied Apple, and that he considered Schmidt's actions as a personal betrayal, you are in denial.
There's a very wide margin between accusing Eric Schmidt personally because of his position on the board and accusing Google of using "multi-touch" in the Nexus One, a couple of months after Eric quit the board and more than a year after Google having shipped Android.

More info here :

http://venturebeat.com/2011/10/20/ho...oogles-android

You're quite misunderstanding the context of the page you're pointing to and what it really means in the timeline. Again, for folks just joining :

1998 - Andy Rubin founds Danger Inc.
2001 - Andy Rubin ships HipTop for T-mobile's Sidekick line
2003 - Andy Rubin founds Android Inc.
2005 - Google buys Android Inc.
2006 - Eric Schmidt is invited to Apple's board.
2007 - Apple unveils the iPhone
2008 - Google ships Android, HTC makes the hardware
2009 - Eric Schmidt quits Apple's board, with much positive comments.
2010 - Google and HTC introduce the Nexus One. Steve gets pissed about Multitouch use.
2011 - Apple is denied the trademark over Multitouch.

No where has anyone from Apple ever even hinted that Eric's position on their board resulted in the "theft" of multitouch (something they've never owned, even if Steve thought they had a broad patent over the whole concept and Apple tried to trademark it). The accusations came much after Eric's tenure on the board, 3 years after the iPhone shipped and demoed multitouch, more than a year after Android shipped on hardware to customers in the field.

So again : The accusation that Eric "maliciously" used his position on the Apple is pure fiction. Steve never hinted at such. Rewriting history is a thing for forums goers to use to spread FUD. At least stick to the facts, no need to demonize Eric Schmidt. In the end, Apple didn't own as much of Multitouch as Steve thought they did and so his anger was mostly based on a false premise to begin with.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 08:34 AM   #175
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If you read the biography and don't come away with the impression that Steve felt Google had copied Apple, and that he considered Schmidt's actions as a personal betrayal, you are in denial.
Sure, Jobs thought that by keeping Schmidt nearby, he could influence Google to not make their phone (which they were already working on) too similiar to his own. Not exactly pure intentions, but understandable.

As for betrayal, Jobs was clearly talking about copying AFTER the iPhone came out. If he thought anyone used inside info, he would've surely kicked them off the board immediately and/or sued them.

The overwhelmingly logical point is that after Jan 2007, competing companies didn't need someone on the Apple board to be able to copy a public device. And prior to that, multi-touch, pinch zoom and flick scrolling were already announced phone features. No need to copy Apple for those major items.

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