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Old Dec 7, 2012, 01:34 PM   #101
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Here we go....

Just Installed 2x Samsung 830 (256Gb each) into a LBD!

Results with a new Macbook Pro Retina
(my 2011 Air shows a little slower speeds)

Nice
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 02:16 PM   #102
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NICE i have had great success with the modded lbd's good luck with them.
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 02:57 PM   #103
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NICE i have had great success with the modded lbd's good luck with them.
Did, you tried out 2x LBD daisy chained? Any results?
BTW how do I daisy chaine to see one volume? Or do I missunderstand somehting?
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 03:04 PM   #104
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Did, you tried out 2x LBD daisy chained? Any results?
BTW how do I daisy chaine to see one volume? Or do I missunderstand somehting?
you first see them as 2 drives one one lbd then with a daisy chain as 4 drives with 2 lbds. you then open disk utility and if you want 1 big 1tb volume you build a raid0 with 4 of the ssds. i have run 3x samsung 256gb ssds 2 in 1 lcd and 1 in the second lbd this was a 768 gb raid0 as my booter
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 03:23 PM   #105
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What was the top speed?
And could i do the smae with a mix of ssdīs and regular hard drives?
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 10:57 PM   #106
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What was the top speed?
And could i do the smae with a mix of ssdīs and regular hard drives?
iirc about 600/550 read write.


i would not mix different drives in a raid.

same size and type work better. [general rule of thumb] you could do 3 ssds a a raid0 and then use a hdd in the last slot as a stand alone drive 3x ssd = 768gb as a raid0 and a 500gb -1tb hdd as a stand alone tm or backup of some kind
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 01:17 AM   #107
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Here we go....

Just Installed 2x Samsung 830 (256Gb each) into a LBD!

Results with a new Macbook Pro Retina
(my 2011 Air shows a little slower speeds)

Nice
Hi, This is interesting, could you please tell me the negotiated link speed of the controller (Little Big Disk) in system report?

Also how old is the LBD? did you buy one with 1TB drives and swap them out for the SSD's?

I am trying to assess if they have changed the hardware at some point from the original ones they released last year to the ones that are currently available because I have one of last years enclosures and it shows link speed of 6gbps but NEGOTIATED link speed of 3gbps and when I tried a SATA 3 SSD inside the enclosure (Vertex 4) I could only get around 150mbs read speed which I took to mean that it is only negotiating to SATA 2.

Their newest one with the 2 X 512 SSD's claims to have read speeds of 670mbs so the only way I can see they have achieved this would be if the negotiated link speeds were 6gbps.

Many thanks
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 08:11 AM   #108
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Hi, thats right the new ones (I guess two month old) and only the SSD versions have the new controller. However, my was a 1TB Version and is SATAII and I get the results shown with 2x Samsung 830 which are the best in many opinions.
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 11:20 AM   #109
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the new version is faster. the old version would max each drive at about 280/250 which was a pair of sata II if you were lucky in raid0 you could get about 480/440.

the new ssd models can go up to 670/600 in raid0 .

remember these speeds don't help unless you are copying from this to another ssd. I have 3 older lbd's 1 promise pegasus r6 and a seagate thunderbolt adapter. I done a lot of testing and the best copy speed I every got was about 530mbs I had a 2011 quad mini to the pegasus in the Pegasus

i had a 1tb raid0 with 2 samsung 830 512gb models.

I had a raid0 with 4 2tb seagate 7200 rpm hdds

I booted with the mini's internal and it had an internal 128gb samsung 830 ssd.

on the 1tb raid I had 10 18gb sized eye tv recordings they were in a file folder so the copy had 180gb data . it copied it at 490 to 530MB/s really fast

but some claim to have done some large copies at about 800MB/s

I never could get those speeds without stutter issues. but those test were done about 10 months ago.
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 01:29 PM   #110
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How many single drives can be on a daisy chain before you would get any drop in throughput at all? Also, how about with a external large monitor on the end of the chain?
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Old Jan 4, 2013, 01:19 PM   #111
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does anyone knows which brand they have used on LBD 512gb SSDs ?
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Old Jan 4, 2013, 01:40 PM   #112
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 09:52 AM   #113
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A 1 year and 1 month of ops follow up. the gear is still going strong.

I have used it in 8 or 9 different setups.

I have settled with 2 500gb sata II toshiba ssds.

1 boots 1 is a clone. I am happy with it.
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 04:34 PM   #114
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Whats the name of the app that shows the temps on the screenshots above?
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 04:52 PM   #115
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A 1 year and 1 month of ops follow up. the gear is still going strong.

I have used it in 8 or 9 different setups.

I have settled with 2 500gb sata II toshiba ssds.

1 boots 1 is a clone. I am happy with it.
Yeah, what's the menubar app you're using?
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 09:29 PM   #116
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istats menus 3


http://bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/

they are now selling 4 I grabbed menus 3 in a family pack deal on black friday 2010. 28 bucks for 5 computers. half price 14 bucks.

i think menus 4 is going for 16 for a single pc. it also has a great fan control if you really want to push the mini's cpu for a long hand brake job (sounds like porn does it not). Hand brake can use all cores on the cpu. I have lots of speeds to pick from in my fan settings.
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 11:11 PM   #117
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A 1 year and 1 month of ops follow up. the gear is still going strong.

I have used it in 8 or 9 different setups.

I have settled with 2 500gb sata II toshiba ssds.

1 boots 1 is a clone. I am happy with it.
Thanks for all the testing you did regarding this setup. I have got my LBD but still debating which SSD setup to go with.

I was set on a RAID 0 setup which I believe you were using at one stage(I could be wrong). Any particular reason you moved away from that?

Thanks
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Old Mar 5, 2013, 04:24 AM   #118
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I just took apart the Lacie 2BIG Thunderbolt 6tb box. And a surprise lies inside.
Let me just say, the 2BIG is not so big...

If you want to see pics let me know...
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Old Mar 5, 2013, 05:53 AM   #119
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Thanks for all the testing you did regarding this setup. I have got my LBD but still debating which SSD setup to go with.

I was set on a RAID 0 setup which I believe you were using at one stage(I could be wrong). Any particular reason you moved away from that?

Thanks
yeah I setup a fusion with a 250gb ssd and a 500gb oem. so it is 750gb size. I decided. to use the 2 external 500gb ssd as jbod clones.

so my fusion has about 365gb info and each clone has the same. the raid0 was rock solid. but I don't need it with the fusion.

I have my eye on this new gear as it is a stacking match for the mini


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ure_Empty.html
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 05:57 AM   #120
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yeah I setup a fusion with a 250gb ssd and a 500gb oem. so it is 750gb size. I decided. to use the 2 external 500gb ssd as jbod clones.

so my fusion has about 365gb info and each clone has the same. the raid0 was rock solid. but I don't need it with the fusion.

I have my eye on this new gear as it is a stacking match for the mini


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ure_Empty.html
Cool thanks. I had hoped to hear the RAID0 was rock solid and it sounds like you switched for other reasons.
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Old Mar 19, 2013, 07:20 PM   #121
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Lacie 2BIG 6TB Disassembly.

Got bored so I tore down the Lacie 2big 6TB Thunderbolt. To my surprise I found the same board used in the Lacie Little Big Disk mounted atop a power module to turn off bigger drives etc. See attached photos.
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