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Old Dec 7, 2012, 01:41 PM   #1
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Can anyone confirm the 500GB HDD in 2012 13" MBP is 6G

I am interested in knowing only because I am wondering if it will be faster or my Seagate Hybrid 500GB Sata II HDD.

I was going to give the Seagate to my son, but wondering which will be faster or if you would even notice the diff.

I want to get him an Intel 520 128SSD but just spent a lot of $ on him for xmas, so thinking this would be a good upgrade especially with the 4G NAND partition for OS/APPS
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 01:41 PM   #2
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I don't think that a pure mechanical hard drive will see any real improvement from being on SATA 6G.
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 03:12 PM   #3
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we have the 500 and the 750 (toshiba, 5400 rpm) and they are both 3G

not that it matters, as said.
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 03:32 PM   #4
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The Momentus XT 1stGen is likely to be faster. Even with only 4GB NAND flash, that's better than none. I think that's a 7200rpm drive as well.
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 06:27 PM   #5
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It is a 7200 RPM drive with the 4gb hand, and 500gb disk drive running at 16mb cache, I am thinking of getting the 750gb hybrid with 32mb cache, 8gb nand, and 750gb disk, it is also 6G so might be better for $129 at new egg
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 06:47 PM   #6
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It is a 7200 RPM drive with the 4gb hand, and 500gb disk drive running at 16mb cache, I am thinking of getting the 750gb hybrid with 32mb cache, 8gb nand, and 750gb disk, it is also 6G so might be better for $129 at new egg
Get this instead;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147189

It's only 250GB, though.

8GB of NAND on a mechanical drive is useless.
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It is a 7200 RPM drive with the 4gb hand, and 500gb disk drive running at 16mb cache, I am thinking of getting the 750gb hybrid with 32mb cache, 8gb nand, and 750gb disk, it is also 6G so might be better for $129 at new egg
It is. I put one of each in my and my wife's laptops because we need more than 256GB (she needs a lot more) and we still actually use the Superdrives for the moment. They're not SSD fast, but in day-to-day use, they're MUCH better than the stock 5400rpm drives, and our computing is much snappier as a result.
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Get this instead;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147189

It's only 250GB, though.

8GB of NAND on a mechanical drive is useless.
I agree with this here. Standard HDDs, even hybrids, just don't compare to current SSDs.
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 11:59 PM   #9
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I agree with this here. Standard HDDs, even hybrids, just don't compare to current SSDs.
SSD's are great if you can afford to drop $400-$500 on storage, if you want any decent amount of space.(512GB)

I would more than happily get a 256GB, but after partitioning, it just isn't worth the lack of space. Even the 750GB hybrid is significantly cheaper than even the 256GB SSD.

I think hybrids are good median ground, it may not be as fast as a pure SSD, but for the average user it's going to make a huge difference either way, especially if you coming from a 5400rpm drive like the OP is.
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I am interested in knowing only because I am wondering if it will be faster or my Seagate Hybrid 500GB Sata II HDD.

I was going to give the Seagate to my son, but wondering which will be faster or if you would even notice the diff.

I want to get him an Intel 520 128SSD but just spent a lot of $ on him for xmas, so thinking this would be a good upgrade especially with the 4G NAND partition for OS/APPS
Although the 2012 MBP13 Supports 6Gbps, you will find the link speed for the stock 500GB drive negotiates at 3Gbps. See here

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SSD's are great if you can afford to drop $400-$500 on storage, if you want any decent amount of space.(512GB)

I would more than happily get a 256GB, but after partitioning, it just isn't worth the lack of space. Even the 750GB hybrid is significantly cheaper than even the 256GB SSD.

I think hybrids are good median ground, it may not be as fast as a pure SSD, but for the average user it's going to make a huge difference either way, especially if you coming from a 5400rpm drive like the OP is.
240GB SSD's are $150 right now (was a deal on a Sammy 840 yesterday, with a free game). Also putting your HDD in the optibay is a no brainer.

Who the hell needs extra 250GB of space on an SSD for a 13" laptop? First 100GB for Apps and OS, fine, I understand, then you have 150GB more space for other stuff...then you have your stock HDD (750GB?) in the Optibay...that's a gig worth of storage.

512GB SSD's are not worth it right now and don't make sense, unless you do a lot of video work and need to capture high datarate video...but on a 13" laptop? C'mon.

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Although the 2012 MBP13 Supports 6Gbps, you will find the link speed for the stock 500GB drive negotiates at 3Gbps. See here

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Seems like that HDD is a SATAII HDD, so that's why it's not running at SATAIII.

So in other words, the optibay on the 2012 will definitely support a SATAIII device like an SSD drive.

I know for a fact that the 2011 MBP didn't support SATAIII speeds in the optibay. Ivy Bridge transition must have fixed that.
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240GB SSD's are $150 right now (was a deal on a Sammy 840 yesterday, with a free game). Also putting your HDD in the optibay is a no brainer.

Who the hell needs extra 250GB of space on an SSD for a 13" laptop? First 100GB for Apps and OS, fine, I understand, then you have 150GB more space for other stuff...then you have your stock HDD (750GB?) in the Optibay...that's a gig worth of storage.

512GB SSD's are not worth it right now and don't make sense, unless you do a lot of video work and need to capture high datarate video...but on a 13" laptop? C'mon.
WTF does the size of the laptop size have to do with anything? I have a 2012 15" Macbook Pro, I don't see how that means I automatically use more storage.

Anyway, I like my optical drive, so I don't see me taking it out. Like I said before, if you want to partition windows the 256GB doesn't offer allot of storage at all. However, if I planned on using just Mac only, A 256GB would be enough, I guess.
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WTF does the size of the laptop size have to do with anything? I have a 2012 15" Macbook Pro, I don't see how that means I automatically use more storage.

Anyway, I like my optical drive, so I don't see me taking it out. Like I said before, if you want to partition windows the 256GB doesn't offer allot* of storage at all. However, if I planned on using just Mac only, A 256GB would be enough, I guess.
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7200RPM drives won't saturate SATA II bandwidth. If your original drive is SATA II, connecting it to an SATA III bus won't do anything to speed. It'll just negotiate a lower link speed that matches the SATA II standards that your drive is capable of running at.
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