Talk about far fetched. Apple has been hiring people in mapping for years before android was even a threat.
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Did Apple Get Exactly What it Wanted for Users in Google Maps Spat?
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WRONG.
Apple could have denied their app. In fact, when the whole thing started all the bloggers were tripping over themselves to be the first to say Apple was going to deny their app anyway. And perhaps you haven't seen the map section on iOS where Apple shows you all the different mapping options we have on iOS, including Google Maps. Even if they didn't deny the app, they didn't have to promote it!
Second, Goggle didn't get what they wanted! Now you have to opt into Google eco system. I'll be using my native maps so no biggie to me. Sell yourselves all day long if you want. Google could have built this app a year ago, and they would be the native maps on iOS and you never would have heard of Apple maps, but thats not what they did! Oh no, they had to try to strong arm negotiate and they got clowned.
I'm business savvy biased. I certainly don't think Apple meant to stumble with their maps (although the extent of that stumbling is up for interpretation, unless you are a fandroid of course) but you can't argue with the results. Turn by turn on iOS via Google or Apple. Enjoy your Google maps!
Again who says Google had any say over a stock iphone app? I highly doubt Google did any of the coding or had any voice in the app other than Apple using their API. The amount of control Apple employs says the stock Google maps app was made in-house by Apple developers.
Why would one have to have Google's maps app installed to make use of their web API's?
Why would one have to have Google's maps app installed to make use of their web API's?
Yes I'm so sure that you are. I don't have to worry about whether your talking out your &&#$ or not, due to that whole critical thinking and logic thing. But seriously... I'm sure you are what you say you are! LOL Cause no one lies on the internet.
You mean an SDK that isn't even available yet? That's not going to happen. Switching from a Google backend to a Apple Maps backend required very little code changes. We don't know what kind changes the SDK will require for Google and asking your customers to download Google maps versus just using the Apple apps that work with Siri and the rest of the OS isn't going to happen. Your asking for your app to be deleted.
I agree! This is a lame fanboy spin on it. The Apple that I have known so far doesn't take one for the team to force someone else ( arch rival, in this case) to deliver. Apple stands in the forefront to deliver and let everyone else follow the lead.
What happened with the maps fiasco was Apple tried hard to deliver a good mapping product in a short span of time ( the UX and UI is spectacular in the Apple maps) but could not deliver simply because of lack of data. They accepted the defeat and let the competitors with proven track record play from the front..... for now.....
The way I see it, now that google maps is in the app store, there won't be too many complaints about maps in the iPhone and Apple can keep working on improving theirs.
nothing more, nothing less...
They don't but if you think consumers are going to be happy with a web view of Google Maps i've got a bridge to sell you. Google Maps is good...it's not THAT good.
Nobody said that Apple was relying on that all along, but that is in fact what happened. So either way we win! Apple invested a ton of money and time to build Maps and still will in perfecting it. I don't think all of that is just a ploy. But Apple and their users sure made out well!
It's the same data that the new apps maps pulls from... Last time I check iOS does allow one app to use another like the way you believe it does. There are no means for one app to make use of another.
Just because consumers came out ahead does NOT mean Apple planned this. Worst freaking arguement I've ever heard. Correlation is not causation. How could Apple plan that google would come up with a "better" map for iOS? Why did someone at Apple have to take the fall for the failure?
Lot of holes, this is shoddy reporting. I'm disappointed MacRumors.
Lot of holes, this is shoddy reporting. I'm disappointed MacRumors.
The most reasonable explanation is that it was a simple negotiation. Apple wanted access to additional data for vector maps, turn-by-turn, etc. Google wanted something in return that Apple was unwilling to give them. They couldn't come to an agreement, so they parted ways in this area.
Google Maps isn't perfect either, even though they've had about a 5 year head-start over Apple.
As per this article:
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/121312-australia-google-maps-265083.html?hpg1=bn
True... Google has made some mistakes. Who hasn't.
But there's one area where Google shines... maps.google.com on my desktop browser.
I use Google Maps on my computer every day. And now that I can sync my search history from my computer to my iPhone... I'm gonna use it even more.
Have you watched the WWDC videos on Mapkit? If not I recommend it. There's stuff that mapkit does smartly that I don't get when I'm using a web based mapping tool.
I'd love for 10.9 to have a full on Mac version of Mapkit to leverage the same intelligence.
Oh dear.
Thanks for that highly insightful response. I feel truly enlightened.
(and FYI, there's a difference between 'hate filled ignorance', and 'pissed off with companies trying to bottle out of their mistakes and people being dumb enough to believe it')
Everyone makes mistakes. I just wish the likes of Apple, Google (heck lets throw MS and Samsung, and Sony in here as well) would actually be slightly more PR friendly instead of attempting to act as if nothings wrong, and everything went to plan.
This is why Apple need to fully integrate Google Maps into iOS, like they did for Facebook and Twitter. There's no reason Apple shouldn't be willing to work with 3rd parties to make the best mobile experience ever.
Full integration with these services would make it a STELLAR OS:
Facebook
Twitter
Google Maps
Google Search
Dropbox
Flickr
Full integration with these services would make it a STELLAR OS:
Google Maps
Google Search
Dropbox
Flickr
I'm disappointed you look for reporting from a site called MacRumors. That in itself speaks volumes about you. Correlation is not causation? Did you have a big English exam today? You are totally right. It was all a big coincidence! Even if you are that naive, in the end iOS users win and haters get to keep on hating! How could Apple plan Google would come up with a "better" map? Of course Google wasn't going to let 150 million users slip through their fingers, of course they were going to release an app. Now, lets use our brains here.... did you think Google would release an app that was worse then their old app? Um, going out on a limb here but I'm going to say they did not intend to make a worse app.
Okay, again that only effects Apple's maps (since iOS 6 do they still have access to GMM?). Your comment that developers would not use google's was because they would need to have google's app installed as a prerequisite was silly let alone incorrect. The brand new app (developed by google) just makes use of their web API's, the same API's developers can/will have access to.
The angry replies are from people who just knew Apple wouldn't approve the Google Maps app, and now that they did, they were proven wrong and don't have anything to whine about
