It's not that it's expensive. It's just that they didn't do anything that makes the app BETTER. UI upgrade is just a facelift. That's all fine and dandy, but the program still performs as it always does. iCloud syncing should be free update, frankly, but I use Dropbox so it's a non issue for me. Favorites? I already have that because I created a folder for these...
If you can sit there and list what version 4 does BETTER than version 3.x.x, then I'm all ears.
Here's
a list
Things like having the password generator everywhere you'd need it is a huge improvement. Sync is vastly improved and the brilliant heroics Roustem put into its conception was simply jaw-dropping when I first saw it.
The other thing that's massive for many users is the ability to view items' attachments. Roustem again did some amazing things here to make it possible to decrypt even large attachments without overly taxing the system's resources, i.e. 1Password would crash if it had to load an entire attachment into memory to decrypt it. Roustem made sure that this wasn't required.
I would have LOVED to see tighter integration with the Safari iPhone browser so I don't have to use the built in Agile browser. But they didn't do that, unfortunately.
Sadly, this isn't possible. We have some cool ideas for how to expand 1Password's reach in the future, but I have to keep a lid on those for now.
I would have loved to see 256-bit security or stronger security measures.
We should be making a bigger deal of this, but we're still working on writing it up. 1Password 4 does indeed use 256-bit keys. While 128-bit keys protected by a strong master password would take trillions of years to brute force attack, we wanted to make it future-proof and now that the iOS hardware supports it without sacrificing performance, we upped the ante.
Also, in the old data format (and the format still used by 1Password on the other platforms right now except the browser extensions; we're working to move this data format ahead to other platforms soon.) some non-critical data was left unencrypted like the title and location. This was a performance compromise that we're eager to leave behind as we move forward.
In addition to this, we've added HMAC authentication for encryption and a unique details key for every entry. This is heady stuff that causes even my head to swim after a while (I'm glad we have people on our team that speak this stuff fluently…), but it's critical to make sure that everything is kosher between 1Password's attempts to access the data from disk. That's new in 1Password 4.
I would have loved for them to NOT have the Agile keychain sitting at the base level of my Dropbox folder and allow me to put it in my "Applications" folder, because this just messes up my OCD folder structure.
We tried this initially, using Dropbox's sandboxed applications folder, but some users needed to put the data into a location that they could then share with another Dropbox user. The current default is Dropbox/1Password/1Password.agilekeychain and that seems to have been a good middle ground. Not everyone loves it, but for now, it's the best approach.
Until the Mac version is released, this is a no sale. Even then, if the Mac version is also a facelift (especially for $50), then we have 2 no sales on our hands.
If you purchased the Mac version from the Mac App Store, the upgrade will be free for you when 1Password 4 is released. (We don't have a timeframe to share about that right now. We're still handling the surge from the iOS release.
) For those who purchased from our online store directly, the current plan is for it to be a paid upgrade.
I hope this information helps.
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Jamie Phelps
Code Wrangler @ AgileBits
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I'd like to add that the security improvements I mentioned above should address all of the concerns Elcomsoft raised. This was a very important report and we're grateful to Elcomsoft for their work in making sure that things are the best they can be.
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I figured I could use v4 on my iPad and stick with v3 on my iPhone.
You can still use both versions. Syncing is only via Dropbox for this setup, but it does work.
Guess again. NO WAY AM I SYNCING SENSITIVE DATA VIA A CLOUD! Why is the removal of wifi syncing not made clear on the AppStore info?
The vast majority of our users are syncing via Dropbox already. Wi-Fi Sync has been removed from 1Password 4 for iOS because, honestly, it was not a great customer experience. It was difficult to set up, and more so, difficult for many customers to maintain. The app on the Mac and the iOS device would need to be open simultaneously, and it was a very manual process.
Also, if the Wi-Fi network's information changed, sync would break completely. You have no idea how many routers we've asked customers to reboot!
Cloud syncing via iCloud (iOS for now, Mac soon) and Dropbox is effortless and automatic. It provides the best experience for customers because it is consistent, fast, and reliable.
If the cloud is not your cup of tea, we have added iTunes File Sharing. iTunes File Sharing works over USB or iTunes' built-in Wi-Fi Sync for your device. It skips the Internet entirely and connects either directly to your computer, or at most over your local wireless network. You can get started with iTunes File Sharing
here.
Someone's already pointed out the flaw in using a cloud service to sync so I won't repeat it. I take my customers data very seriously so sadly I think I will have to start looking for an alternative password storage system. A shame as I've been using 1Password for years.
You're very right to be concerned about the security of your data! We're equally concerned to keep your data secure. We've written a dedicated document to describe how [this is secure](
http://help.agilebits.com/1Password3/cloud_storage_security.html) but the short version is that your data is encrypted before being sent to the cloud. If you have a strong master password, it would still take an attacker trillions of years to brute force attack your data file even if the cloud storage were somehow breached.
I hope this helps!
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Jamie Phelps
Code Wrangler @ AgileBits
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I haven't read any post, so I was wondering what the difference between 1Password and 1Password Pro is. Which is better? I currently have 1Password Pro and I'm wondering if I should buy the new version now since its at a discount price.
1Password Pro was 1Password 3's universal app. It has the same features as the standalone iPhone and iPad apps but in one application for a reduced price. 1Password 4 is a whole new app to replace all of the 1Password versions we had before. It's universal for iPhone and iPad interface and only one app. We learned a lot about the confusion the previous approach could cause so we know this is the right move.
You can [read about what's new](
http://learn.agilebits.com/1Password4/iOS/ios-why-upgrade.html) and decide if it's a compelling upgrade for you. If not, you can continue to use 1Password 3 for as long as your device will run it and it'll be available for you to redownload from the App Store's "Purchased" section.
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Jamie Phelps
Code Wrangler @ AgileBits
