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Old Dec 15, 2012, 06:30 AM   #1
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Any point buying iPhone without jailbreak?

My current phone is an iPhone 4... and jailbroken on 5.0.1... but there are so many things I just can't live without on it, if I got an iPhone 5 it'd be a huge downgrade.

No f.lux
No Zephyr
No double row of icons in multitask tray (Switchy)
No ability to remove launchdaemons and save battery life/ram/cpu cycles
No iCleaner to remove several gb of junk languages, keyboards, non-retina icons
No capability to hide News Stand

And these are just very basic tweaks... some people lose out on a lot more...

Also all of the useful withheld features are unlockable using tweaks - Facetime over 3G for example

My only choice is to stick with my iPhone 4... wait for Apple to introduce much needed features on stock iOS, or just get an Android phone in the future

Or, in a dream world where Apple allows installation of unsigned code but has to be toggled by the user with various warnings etc (like Android let's you do in settings)
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 07:23 AM   #2
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I've never not had a jailbroken iPhone until now with my 5 and while the screen is great being larger the loss of the jailbreak makes me wish I would have gone with something else. I guess I just expected they'd jailbreak it by now like they have in the past but this one seems like the major players have no interest in jailbreaking anymore.
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 09:20 AM   #3
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My only choice is to stick with my iPhone 4... wait for Apple to introduce much needed features on stock iOS, or just get an Android phone in the future

Or, in a dream world where Apple allows installation of unsigned code but has to be toggled by the user with various warnings etc (like Android let's you do in settings)
I'm pretty sure they won't do it - they don't mean their phones to power users ("geeks"), mostly to non-techies, women (this isn't a sexist comment) and the like without any extra wishes like the ability to set the screen color temperature.

I recommend the Android way. I'm too considering switching to Android if the next-gen iDevices won't be jailbreakable. I too need tools like f.lux, Screen Recorder, Skype Recorder, Springtomizer, (on the iPad) Quasar, XBMC, RushPlayer+ and the like.
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 09:21 AM   #4
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Essencially I have the same opinion as you do. I really cannot live without the phone being jailbroken, so I'm waiting for the jailbreak to come before buying an iPhone 5, I'm also running an iPhone 4 which lags a bit nowadays

If it doesn't happen in the next year, then definitely I have to go with Android.

How could I live without:

IntelliscreenX
Pull to Dismiss
Clear button in the notification center
quicksettings,
etc, etc.
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 09:39 AM   #5
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I think some of you have short memory
8-10 weeks is about the quickest jailbreak for this newest equipment.
And I suspect they may wait for 6.1 release.

While I also miss jailbreak on iPhone 5, that by no means precludes my using it just slightly "dumbed down"
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 09:39 AM   #6
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The screen is the BIGGEST teaser. I upgraded, and since then have played with my brother's iPhone 4 that I jailbroke for him, and definitely notice how tiny the screen is.

That said, I really also missed the jailbreak ... if I could do it all over, next time, I might just wait until there is a jailbreak for the newest iOS device before buying it.
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 10:28 AM   #7
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Any point buying iPhone without jailbreak?
Subjective. It's not a one-size-fits-all matter as, obviously, everyone doesn't jailbreak in the first place. If you don't see a point there is no point. If you do, there is. Your OP seems to answer your own question for you.
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 10:33 AM   #8
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I think some of you have short memory
8-10 weeks is about the quickest jailbreak for this newest equipment.
And I suspect they may wait for 6.1 release.

While I also miss jailbreak on iPhone 5, that by no means precludes my using it just slightly "dumbed down"
Yeah but I don't see any mention of the major players even working on the jailbreak. Basically it's been quite
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 10:34 AM   #9
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Wait until jan 30 and buy a blackberry 10
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 10:54 AM   #10
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Never went for the iPhone 5. My iPhone 4S spent half its life with no jb available and the 5 looks to be even worse.

I just got sick of having apps that I paid for that were useless because there was no jb. Or my other choice was to not update iOSwhich meant other drawbacks.

I finally gave up and just got a Nexus 4. There were rooting tutorials available before the first batch of Nexus 4s even shipped. And for just about all the things I used to jailbreak for, you don't even need to root. Right out of the box it did WiFi tethering (bye bye MyWi). Right out of the box I had access to the file system when plugged into a PC or mac--not just camera roll. It was a breath of fresh air.




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Old Dec 15, 2012, 10:57 AM   #11
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Yeah but I don't see any mention of the major players even working on the jailbreak. Basically it's been quite
If that is the case, you are not following/looking in the appropriate places.
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 12:11 PM   #12
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I bought the iPhone 5 at launch just because I wanted to take a break from jailbreaking for a while. I get a little crazy on theme modding... and I can work on it for hours. I miss gesturing with Zephyr, and at times... I swipe my dock icons thinking I still have infinidock. But those features doesn't make make me hate the iPhone 5. If and when the jailbreak comes out... I'll jailbreak it... install tweaks and utilities... then theme mod again. I'm not bored of my iPhone yet... but by the time the jailbreak comes out... I'll feel like I have new iPhone again.

However... I sure could use iBlacklist right now. I hate not being able to block calls... and spam messages. I refuse to pay for AT&T's blocking service.
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