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Old Dec 10, 2012, 11:53 PM   #51
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And concerning that chart, the nexus 4 is a quad core s4, which is more similar to Swift as a core than either is to the A15. The phone ahead of the nexus 4 on that chart is also a dual core version of the quad core chip in the nexus 4.
Every Nexus sold will mean about $8 - $10 for Apple any way in patent revs. So Apple wins both ways.
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 01:19 AM   #52
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This post reminds of all the "Bye-Bye, Google " posts when iOS went to Apple Maps.

How'd that work out?
It works well for me and others. It also works like crap for others.
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 05:14 AM   #53
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...but the foundry opted not to tie its future so closely to any one company, although it has indicated that it is open to dedicating a factory or two to a single customer.

You've gotta be cool when dealing with the big boys. "Yeah, I'm sure we have a few spare factories around here somewhere, if only we can remember where we put the damn things. They're definitely in Taiwan we're pretty sure of that."
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 10:12 AM   #54
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You missed the android forum by about 10 exits!!!!
This is a mac/apple forum. Not an iOS forum. And we are allowed own devices from other manufacturers. The simple fact of the matter is that the cortex a15 is faster than the a6 swift architecture. And its pretty significantly faster. The a6 is roughly equal in performance the snapdragon s4 at the same clock speed.
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 03:13 PM   #55
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The simple fact of the matter is that the cortex a15 is faster than the a6 swift architecture.
There are tons of processors that are a lot faster than the a6 and the a15. The question here is how that performance relates to power consumption on a pocket-sized device in a given technology node and with a reasonable time-to-market.

Where can a consumer buy a pocketable cell phone with an a15 today?

And how fast will the A7 prototypes run in Apple's R&D labs tomorrow.

Leapfrog. Nothing unusual here.
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 05:25 PM   #56
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There are tons of processors that are a lot faster than the a6 and the a15. The question here is how that performance relates to power consumption on a pocket-sized device in a given technology node and with a reasonable time-to-market.

Where can a consumer buy a pocketable cell phone with an a15 today?

And how fast will the A7 prototypes run in Apple's R&D labs tomorrow.

Leapfrog. Nothing unusual here.
They will be out shortly. The powers levels of the a15 are actually lower than an a9. As it stands right now the exynos 5250 draws less power than the a6x. The galaxy s4 is pretty much confirmed to be using the exynos 5450 which is a big step up from the 5250.
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There are tons of processors that are a lot faster than the a6 and the a15. The question here is how that performance relates to power consumption on a pocket-sized device in a given technology node and with a reasonable time-to-market.

Where can a consumer buy a pocketable cell phone with an a15 today?

And how fast will the A7 prototypes run in Apple's R&D labs tomorrow.

Leapfrog. Nothing unusual here.
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They will be out shortly. The powers levels of the a15 are actually lower than an a9. As it stands right now the exynos 5250 draws less power than the a6x.
Because the A6X has vastly more GPU power than the exynos 5.

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By which time Apple could have the A7 in the iPhone 5S on a TSMC 28nm process. Samsung 28nm won't be ready until H2 2013.
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You really think apple really could actually meet demand while not using Samsung or lg displays. They are the two largest producers.
In 2013 without Samsung, yes. By 2015 without LG, yes. Apple want's off the Korean Peninsula. Frankly, I don't blame them.
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In 2013 without Samsung, yes. By 2015 without LG, yes. Apple want's off the Korean Peninsula. Frankly, I don't blame them.
Exactly why do they want off. The whole samsung lawsuit thing is a complete joke. Apple knows in the long run there case is going to get overturned. Right now no ones even comes close to the capacity of Samsung or LG. Thats unlikely to change in the short time of 2-3 years.
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Exactly why do they want off. The whole samsung lawsuit thing is a complete joke. Apple knows in the long run there case is going to get overturned. Right now no ones even comes close to the capacity of Samsung or LG. Thats unlikely to change in the short time of 2-3 years.
2-3 years is a Malena in the Tech Arena.
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2-3 years is a Malena in the Tech Arena.
not for manufacturing and yields. That takes decades to build up to the level that Samsung and LG have.
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There is a lot of ownage in this thread. Good for Apple though.
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Turn out the exynos chip comes with a memory controller bug that makes root exploits easy. It a fast chip. Get your identity stolen much faster with an exynos than with an A6! Go Samsung!
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This post reminds of all the "Bye-Bye, Google " posts when iOS went to Apple Maps.

How'd that work out?
Worked out great for me. Your point?

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I wonder why the people who admire Samsung "technology" are still on a forum called "Macrumors".
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Every Nexus sold will mean about $8 - $10 for Apple any way in patent revs. So Apple wins both ways.
Where did you get that figure?
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So Long, Samsung: Apple Switches To TSMC For A6X Processor Production


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Apple has already requested Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) to produce its next-generation A6X processors, reports the Taiwanese financial newspaper Commercial Times.

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Will TSMC have the capacity to produce smaller processors (22nm A7 ?)
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