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Old Dec 18, 2012, 12:33 AM   #1
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Will the next refresh of rMBP include 8870M?
March maybe?
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 12:36 AM   #2
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Thats a gaming card.
And highly doubt it.
I possibly think it will be another NVIDIA.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 12:48 AM   #3
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Thats a gaming card.
And highly doubt it.
I possibly think it will be another NVIDIA.
Isn't 650M a gamer card too. Heard it matched or so faster than GTX 660M.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 12:50 AM   #4
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Isn't 650M a gamer card too. Heard it matched or so faster than GTX 660M.
Its a entry level gaming card.
I wouldnt truly consider it as a gaming card though.

Besides, I think 2GB of vRAM would shoot the price up of MBP.
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I hope they stick with nvidia. Their drivers tend to be better.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 02:23 AM   #6
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I hope they stick with nvidia. Their drivers tend to be better.
I tot AMD betta driver then nvidia?
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I tot AMD betta driver then nvidia?
I dont understand your sentence but NVIDIA has better drivers than AMD.
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I dont understand your sentence but NVIDIA has better drivers than AMD.
Not on Mac apparently....
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 02:53 AM   #9
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It doesn't matter as long as the next iteration of the rMBP has improved performance across the board.

Also Both NVIDIA and AMD have driver problems, neither are best and it depends. They've both had great drivers and bad in the past.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 03:14 AM   #10
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It all depends on the component price and TDP requirement. If these align then performance and volume capacity comes to play.

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Old Dec 18, 2012, 03:17 AM   #11
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would be nie to have a 17" rMBP with nvidia 680mx
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:43 AM   #12
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AMD have terrible driver support. In the 7970 desktop series, it took almost a year before drivers really were able to capture the whole potential of the GPU architecture.
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Its a entry level gaming card.
I wouldnt truly consider it as a gaming card though.

Besides, I think 2GB of vRAM would shoot the price up of MBP.
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Will the next refresh of rMBP include 8870M?
March maybe?
1 GB more gddr5 vram is going to cost about $30-40. If that, considering you can get 6670 with 1 gb gddr5 for about $90. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127586)
$75 after rebate.

Apple will gouge you though, even though they can easily absorb the cost.

OP, read up on the 8870m, is basically a downclocked 7870m. I don't know why or how AMD is doing this, the 8870m will actually have less performance than the 7870m.

It is not sea islands, it is gcn.

http://www.hardware.fr/news/12818/am...-hd-8000m.html
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1 GB more gddr5 vram is going to cost about $30-40. If that, considering you can get 6670 with 1 gb gddr5 for about $90. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127586)
$75 after rebate.

Apple will gouge you though, even though they can easily absorb the cost.

OP, read up on the 8870m, is basically a downclocked 7870m. I don't know why or how AMD is doing this, the 8870m will actually have less performance than the 7870m.

It is not sea islands, it is gcn.

http://www.hardware.fr/news/12818/am...-hd-8000m.html
I just read up on it. Might as well stick to Nvidia.
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It seems though that AMD wants to push the 8800M series into the mainstream GPU spot. The one that is currently firmly held by the 650M and formerly 540M, 6750M, 5650M, 330M, 240M, ...
In pure TDP it could reach this low as the 7850 is already rated at 32W. I doubt it is really any better than the 650M. The next big improvement is a long time of all we get this time around is minor refreshes and rebrands.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 05:18 AM   #16
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Thats a gaming card.
And highly doubt it.
I possibly think it will be another NVIDIA.
it has the same tdp as the 650m
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I just read up on it. Might as well stick to Nvidia.
not necessarily, for graphics professional this would be thousand times better than a higher clocked 650m, gcn arch is miles and miles ahead of kepler when it comes to compute performance
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It seems though that AMD wants to push the 8800M series into the mainstream GPU spot. The one that is currently firmly held by the 650M and formerly 540M, 6750M, 5650M, 330M, 240M, ...
In pure TDP it could reach this low as the 7850 is already rated at 32W. I doubt it is really any better than the 650M. The next big improvement is a long time of all we get this time around is minor refreshes and rebrands.
they only had 1 notebook with this gpu, it was the late envy 17, and it was the underclocked version the 7850m, they only sold the card in the firepro variant, AFAIK only the 8570w and the m4700 had it.

the problem is the card is miles and miles ahead of the 650m as well. one score around 3k while heavily overclocked, while the 7850m scores 3600 stock, with an oc, it reaches the same level as the 7770 ghz edition, with the new drivers its around 4k, the numbers are from 3dmark11 btw

so to put simply the performance of the 7870m is very darn close to the performance of the 675m, and that is a gaming card at a tdp of 100w, damn great design

and the tdp of the 7870m according to what I saw is 45w, the same as the 650m
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