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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:14 PM   #151
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...if you read my post: why would anyone want to change it anyway? All of the many [tech savvy] people I know with iPhones/iPads have them at stock appearance. Some people have them jailbroken, but not to change the UI, more "add a shortcut to something".
Oh, well. If the people you know don't do it...

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Stop muttering bullcrap when the time suits you. Stand up and contribute to the argument rather than squatting in the shadows. It's pathetic.
There's really no argument to contribute to here. It's just you saying something stupid, and me wasting my time bothering to reply.

Why do I keep replying? Hell, I dunno. I guess I'm a sucker for punishment or maybe hate myself or something. That's the only thing I can figure.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:15 PM   #152
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I should start patenting random names that starts with i
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:21 PM   #153
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Oh, well. If the people you know don't do it...
There's really no argument to contribute to here. It's just you saying something stupid, and me wasting my time bothering to reply.

Why do I keep replying? Hell, I dunno. I guess I'm a sucker for punishment or maybe hate myself or something. That's the only thing I can figure.
Instead of coming to your own conclusions, CONTRIBUTE!

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Once again, that's what you like. Many will say otherwise. Widgets can be very useful for a lot of people. And you would probably say the same if the iPhone had them.
If widgets are useful for you, awesome!

My iPhone has one on the Notification Centre. I hardly use it: I launch the app that does it 10x better- THAT'S THE POINT.

If they were on my home screen, I would disable them. iPad lock screen, might be useful to have a weather/stocks widget for "at a glance" information. But then, I could ask Siri and get it in 4 seconds. Does the job now, really.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:22 PM   #154
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I find it funny that some people continue to ignore the fact that the "perfect" or "best" phone is all a matter of opinion to the individual. If I posted on here that I liked chocolate ice cream, I wouldn't get 20 replies telling me I'm a chocolate fanboy and blind to the real tastes of the world like vanilla and strawberry. However, if someone says they prefer Apple over Android or the other way around, everyone instantly attacks their opinion and calls them fanboys. It's all a matter of preference. There isn't really a best or better phone when you're talking two different platforms and various different phone models. There is only what someone likes best for themselves.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:22 PM   #155
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Instead of coming to your own conclusions, CONTRIBUTE!
If I can't comment on my own conclusions, then what do I contribute?
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:22 PM   #156
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You've likely never tried it.


A money grab? If they had the name since 2000 how can it really be a money grab?
Because its been 12 years and they have not produced an "IPHONE" yet
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:24 PM   #157
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iPad lock screen, might be useful to have a weather/stocks widget for "at a glance" information. But then, I could ask Siri and get it in 4 seconds. Does the job now, really.
It'd take longer than 4 seconds. You have to hold down the home button for two, then ask Siri what you want her to look for, then wait for her to find it.

...as opposed to having it right there on your home screen.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:26 PM   #158
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It'd take longer than 4 seconds. You have to hold down the home button for two, then ask Siri what you want her to look for, then wait for her to find it.

...as opposed to having it right there on your home screen.
Whoopsies, 5 seconds. My mistake.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:27 PM   #159
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Apple will either file a lawsuit, or perhaps more likely, begin negotiations for a settlement deal.
I'm not saying this will or will not happen. I just want to say the Macrumors articles can learn a lot from Julian Assange and the Wikileaks crew. How so? Practically every blog and journalist takes the facts, puts their spin on them and prints the spin. And at times it's hard to decipher the true facts.

Assange and Wikileaks on the other hand take the facts and publish the facts. No spin. They let us decide what stance we want to take on the facts presented.

My point? We as smart Mac users do want to hear the facts and rumours. For which we are grateful Macrumors provides these to us. But we don't want to hear the spin on these rumours. Just tell us the facts and let us decide what people will or will not do with the information.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:28 PM   #160
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*Yawns.

Why should I have to rely on a third party tool to change the appearance of my device? Anyway, if anyone spent any UI/UX time on Android, you wouldn't need to customise it.

iOS's "one size fits all" is one of its strongest points. Apple NAILED it's appearance and UX. Even to this day it feels modern and fitting, even for a nearly 6 year old OS. (that's likely been in development for longer than we've seen).
Lol you've got to be joking me. There is no such thing as one size fits all. Anyone that does that sacrifices something in the end. This whole thread is filled with opinions. Each platform has it's pluses and minuses. I don't know why you care to bash one system when the other is not perfect either.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:30 PM   #161
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Whoopsies, 5 seconds. My mistake.
Hold on, I'll find out...

According to the stopwatch I used, it took me 8 seconds to ask Siri for Apple's current stock prices.



As opposed to a widget, which is just right there on the home screen...


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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:30 PM   #162
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You've likely never tried it.


A money grab? If they had the name since 2000 how can it really be a money grab?
Doesn't matter if they had the name since 1950. Why else would you name your newest phone in 2012 "IPHONE"? One reason...Money from Apple.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:43 PM   #163
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This again?


Customer: I want an iPhone.
Sales Person: Here is your IPHONE
Customer: No. Not that POS ugly Android IPHONE.
Sales Person: Ohhhh, the nice Apple iPhone! (Pulls out Apple iPhone)
Customer: Yes, the nice Apple iPhone! (Thinks to him or herself, the sales person is an idiot and that the trademark issue is retarded )
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:47 PM   #164
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Whoopsies, 5 seconds. My mistake.
Well, and you have to speak... which isn't prudent in many scenarios. I still can't get over speaking to my device in public places.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:51 PM   #165
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I had about 10 minutes of use with the device.
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Android is a pathetic, unoptimised, insecure mess. I stand by my previous comment, iOS is significantly better than Android at just about everything. (Except the USB drive functionality, you can have that one).

Did I answer your question?
You didn't need to bother typing anything, your signature kind of says it all:

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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:53 PM   #166
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Well, and you have to speak... which isn't prudent in many scenarios.
Damnit, grandma! Can't I have a little private time over here? I'll pass the potatoes when I'm done!
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:59 PM   #167
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If widgets are useful for you, awesome!

My iPhone has one on the Notification Centre. I hardly use it: I launch the app that does it 10x better- THAT'S THE POINT.

If they were on my home screen, I would disable them. iPad lock screen, might be useful to have a weather/stocks widget for "at a glance" information. But then, I could ask Siri and get it in 4 seconds. Does the job now, really.
Yes because if I want to know the current weather, I rather open the app, wait a couple of seconds for it to refresh and then see the weather. So useless to just look at the screen with the weather right there for you ...Briefly said, you have no point.

And no I rather not talk everytime to get information. Siri has been great for me for one thing and that's setting alarms because it is much faster to set an alarm with Siri/Google Now/S Voice than to manually set one.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:59 PM   #168
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OMG what the **** does a trademark dispute have to do with iOS vs android? Seriously! Android vs iOS debates are a dime a dozen, enough already!
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Their reasons for using this name and releasing a phone only now are utterly irrelevant when they own the damn trademark.

How can people actually think the company is doing something wrong here? That's absurd.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 05:07 PM   #170
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Meh, the thing will be a flop anyways...
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Their reasons for using this name and releasing a phone only now are utterly irrelevant when they own the damn trademark.

How can people actually think the company is doing something wrong here? That's absurd.
Well the intent is what's important here, would they have used the same name is the Apple iPhone wasn't so popular around the world?

The court will have to decide that if Apple decides to sue.
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Well the intent is what's important here, would they have used the same name is the Apple iPhone wasn't so popular around the world?

The court will have to decide that if Apple decides to sue.
They won the trademark in 2000, seven years before the first iPhone came out.

So... what are you talking about?
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 05:17 PM   #173
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If they were on my home screen, I would disable them. iPad lock screen, might be useful to have a weather/stocks widget for "at a glance" information. But then, I could ask Siri and get it in 4 seconds. Does the job now, really.
Are you really going to arguing that a process which is more labor intensive and takes longer is preferable? Sincerely?
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Are you really going to arguing that a process which is more labor intensive and takes longer is preferable? Sincerely?
I have a feeling Unggoy Murderer will support anything Apple adds or removes.
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Uh, what? This article is pretty unclear. They got rights to use the name "iPhone" about 13 years ago, and they're using it now? I clicked on the article and: "On January 2, 2008, the company had its registration granted by the federal agency." So it was granted in 2008, applied for in 2000.

The question is: On what grounds would Apple sue? Does the application date or the date granted matter?

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Are you really going to arguing that a process which is more labor intensive and takes longer is preferable? Sincerely?
Widgets add too much clutter for some people. It's not about effort. Actually, the Notification Center kinda has widgets already except that they're neatly arranged and tucked away.
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