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Old Nov 25, 2012, 02:57 AM   #151
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Can we do a compilation of purchase dates of iphone 5 for those who have the bentgate problem?
Also mention if you use it with what case you used or say you have a naked iphone 5.

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Old Nov 25, 2012, 03:19 AM   #152
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This thread is funny as F.......!

I had every iPhone since the first one and had my 5 on launchday this year for 2 weeks, took it out of my incipio case and set it on the table just to notice it would kinda seesaw back and forth just a little bit. Needles to say it went straight back to apple. This time around they just cheaped out on materials imho. Slowly but surely theyre letting greed get in the way of quality stuff.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 03:30 PM   #153
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My 5 is bent as well. Near the (-) button is very noticeable.

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Old Dec 6, 2012, 03:34 PM   #154
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My iPhone 5 is bent too!!!! I spent hours looking at it and I think I can detect a SMALL bend in it. I started sweating and my heart rate shot up so high. But when I ask other people they say they can't see it.

Maybe I need to sit on it or smash it and then it will be more bent then I can start complaining too?
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 05:18 PM   #155
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Went to the 5th Avenue Apple Store in NYC to replace my iPhone 5 with a broken sleep button. When the genius brought out my replacement iPhone, I noticed that there was about a 1 degree bend towards the screen near the volume buttons. Took photos of the bent phone with the Macbooks they have on the tables
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 05:22 PM   #156
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Went to the 5th Avenue Apple Store in NYC to replace my iPhone 5 with a broken sleep button. When the genius brought out my replacement iPhone, I noticed that there was about a 1 degree bend towards the screen near the volume buttons. Took photos of the bent phone with the Macbooks they have on the tables
Wow. That damn 6061 AI.

Did you immediately return it?

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This thread is funny as F.......!

I had every iPhone since the first one and had my 5 on launchday this year for 2 weeks, took it out of my incipio case and set it on the table just to notice it would kinda seesaw back and forth just a little bit. Needles to say it went straight back to apple. This time around they just cheaped out on materials imho. Slowly but surely theyre letting greed get in the way of quality stuff.
Did they give you a hassle about it?
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 05:28 PM   #157
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Wow. That damn 6061 AI.

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No, they replaced it right away. In fact, a couple more geniuses and the manager came over to see
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 05:30 PM   #158
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Went to the 5th Avenue Apple Store in NYC to replace my iPhone 5 with a broken sleep button. When the genius brought out my replacement iPhone, I noticed that there was about a 1 degree bend towards the screen near the volume buttons. Took photos of the bent phone with the Macbooks they have on the tables
Now who's to blame? Did the chinese sat on the phone to bend like that?

Gosh guys... Just assume the iPhone bends without any special effort and that is a big problem. Most people don't even notice their iPhone is already bent
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 05:40 PM   #159
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Now who's to blame? Did the chinese sat on the phone to bend like that?

Gosh guys... Just assume the iPhone bends without any special effort and that is a big problem. Most people don't even notice their iPhone is already bent
Exactly. So much hassle had been given to people with bent phones almost all assuming it's the users fault. Hate for these people to be on my jury.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 05:47 PM   #160
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Exactly. So much hassle had been given to people with bent phones almost all assuming it's the users fault. Hate for these people to be on my jury.
Because most of the bent ones have obvious signs of stress that were applied. There have only been a handful like this one and the most recent thread posted about it that are legitimate production flaws. This guy actually captured the moment in the store. Well done for him. A lot of the phones posted in here are bent in a way that would be impossible to remain packaged normally and come out of the box without the user realizing it.

I've seen 3, maybe 4 posts so far of iPhone 5's that are actually non-user faults. I do feel bad for them and I'm glad they were able to spot it and get it replaced.

I'd hate for someone who doesn't think objectively about all of the possible scenario's to be on my jury.
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Old Dec 19, 2012, 11:38 AM   #161
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Because most of the bent ones have obvious signs of stress that were applied. There have only been a handful like this one and the most recent thread posted about it that are legitimate production flaws. This guy actually captured the moment in the store. Well done for him. A lot of the phones posted in here are bent in a way that would be impossible to remain packaged normally and come out of the box without the user realizing it.

I've seen 3, maybe 4 posts so far of iPhone 5's that are actually non-user faults. I do feel bad for them and I'm glad they were able to spot it and get it replaced.

I'd hate for someone who doesn't think objectively about all of the possible scenario's to be on my jury.
You also have made assumptions most previous posts showing bends were the users fault. It's bent and was not noticed at the Apple store, must be their fault? Based on what?

The instant someone puts a bent phone post they get lambasted by people saying it's your fault. Now I believe some may be-cracked screen, abrasions-are the users fault. Also, using the phone normally and excluding sitting on it, it should not be expected to bend. The mentality on this board is definitely guilty until proven innocent. The scuff threads showed this clearly.

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Old Dec 19, 2012, 12:37 PM   #162
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If you want to see my story about the same issue, including a detailed account of Apple's response see

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...ht=spontaneous

titled spontaneous separation of new iphone5
When I click the link I get this

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The requested URL /showthre...ht=spontaneous was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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Old Dec 20, 2012, 06:37 PM   #163
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You also have made assumptions most previous posts showing bends were the users fault. It's bent and was not noticed at the Apple store, must be their fault? Based on what?

The instant someone puts a bent phone post they get lambasted by people saying it's your fault. Now I believe some maybe-cracked screen, abrasions-are the users fault. Also, using the phone normally and excluding sitting on it, it should not be expected to bend. The mentality on this board is definitely guilty until proven innocent. The scuff threads showed this clearly.
You're right. When you make extraordinary claims like "the phone bent on it's own" or "the anodizing is wiping off with a microfiber towel" you are most DEFINITELY guilty until proven innocent... and I find it hard to believe you can operate in the real world if you don't feel the same way.

Look, no one is disputing that there are SOME legitimate issues with phones out of the box. What the non-OCD, logical people ARE disputing is that there is some massive manufacturers defect with either the anodizing or the aluminum itself. There just is NO substantial proof to indicate there is. And no, a handful of users on a fan (fanatic) board does not prove anything.

If you have a problem with your phone: return it. If you can't find one that meets your needs: buy something else.

These "(x)gates" are usually operator error. Sometimes not, but usually.

The VAST majority of users have had no issues at all. There is no "(x)gate".
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Old Dec 20, 2012, 06:46 PM   #164
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These "(x)gates" are usually operator error. Sometimes not, but usually.

The VAST majority of users have had no issues at all. There is no "(x)gate".
Mapgate is real. Antennagate is real. Scuffgate is real. Wifigate is real. Battergate is real. And Bendgate is also real on the iPhone whether you like to acknowledge it or not.
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Old Dec 20, 2012, 06:51 PM   #165
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Mapgate is real. Antennagate is real. Scuffgate is real. Wifigate is real. Battergate is real. And Bendgate is also real on the iPhone whether you like to acknowledge it or not.
Antenna gate proven, mapgate proven, scuffgate proven, bend gate developing.

In all but the last Apple made statements about the issue and how it is improving the situation. I would call that real in my world.
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Old Dec 20, 2012, 07:24 PM   #166
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I purchased my wife and mother both white iPhone 5s for Christmas - should I return them and get 4S's or even ::gasp:: a GSIII?
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Old Dec 20, 2012, 07:38 PM   #167
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Apple fans are getting ridiculously fussy haha.
On my old Nokia N73 (a very hgihly regarded phone at the time...)
The lens cover would touch the back cover as it swipes. Hence, over time as it opens and closes, it would scratch the gasket surrounding the lens and it looks ugly... no gasketgate then...
My friend's motorolla defy has a rubber hatch that covers the ports..over time, this got loose and now theres this ugly bit of rubber sticking out all the time.
no rubbergate there...
Heck, MY BMW X3 has a problem with the back windshield wipers whereby the cap that covers the bolt on wipers get loose and go missing...no capgate there....

maybe steve jobs WAS right when he said 'you're holding it wrong'... everyone's getting SO fussy!. you have an aluminium phone, not a diamond indestructible supermanphone. it can bend if you apply pressure on it....get the GS3 if you want...but I don't think the android community will care much when you yell 'crackgate' after cracking the back plastic cover by sitting on it..
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Old Dec 20, 2012, 08:36 PM   #168
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Mapgate is real. Antennagate is real. Scuffgate is real. Wifigate is real. Battergate is real. And Bendgate is also real on the iPhone whether you like to acknowledge it or not.
And on the Nexus 4, we have scatchgate, antennagate, batterygate, wifigate, glassgate, thermalgate.

There should be threads on each one on the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices" subforum, but you will be called a troll.
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Old Dec 20, 2012, 08:57 PM   #169
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Mapgate is real. Antennagate is real. Scuffgate is real. Wifigate is real. Battergate is real. And Bendgate is also real on the iPhone whether you like to acknowledge it or not.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 07:59 AM   #170
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Apple fans are getting ridiculously fussy haha.
On my old Nokia N73 (a very hgihly regarded phone at the time...)
The lens cover would touch the back cover as it swipes. Hence, over time as it opens and closes, it would scratch the gasket surrounding the lens and it looks ugly... no gasketgate then...
My friend's motorolla defy has a rubber hatch that covers the ports..over time, this got loose and now theres this ugly bit of rubber sticking out all the time.
no rubbergate there...
Heck, MY BMW X3 has a problem with the back windshield wipers whereby the cap that covers the bolt on wipers get loose and go missing...no capgate there....

maybe steve jobs WAS right when he said 'you're holding it wrong'... everyone's getting SO fussy!. you have an aluminium phone, not a diamond indestructible supermanphone. it can bend if you apply pressure on it....get the GS3 if you want...but I don't think the android community will care much when you yell 'crackgate' after cracking the back plastic cover by sitting on it..
Apple™, themselves, are responsible for the iPhone sitting so high on it's pedestal. Don't blame consumers when they complain about getting a bent/scratched phone out of the box or have one that bends or scratches with normal use in a matter of weeks. We're all being told to expect more from Apple.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 08:17 AM   #171
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Mapgate is real. Antennagate is real. Scuffgate is real. Wifigate is real. Battergate is real. And Bendgate is also real on the iPhone whether you like to acknowledge it or not.
Says who? You?

Maybe antennagate had a little substance (on the 4) and maybe mapgate sent a few users to Macy's instead of JCPenny. Both are now fixed.

No more "gates" lol. Just because you acknowledge them doesn't make them any more real than someone pointing out its only a handful of users with a "problem".

Some are real, most are not.

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Old Dec 21, 2012, 08:46 AM   #172
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No, I am not. The coating peeling off is one issue. The soft aluminum denting easily is another and the result of using non-tempered(cheaper softer) aluminum.
I won't debate whether using aluminum was a good choice for the phone, but here's what I do want to say.

I keep hearing the statement, apple "cheaped out" on materials and quality".

As I said, is aluminum a good choice for a thin phone, it's certainly debatable. BUT, you just cannot say apple cut corners, and built the phone "on the cheap", virtually every other smart phone is made primarily from cheap, easily processed plastic. The iPhone is anodized aluminum and glass, with polished chamfered edges.

Again, like the design or not, think its durable, or not, you just cannot say when apple alone made a fairly difficult to manufacture anodized aluminum and glass phone, to everyone else's truly inexpensive plastic, that they went "cheap".

Whatever type of aluminum they used, they still created a much higher end (more expensive to build) phone in a market where most phones are truly as cheap as possible to build.

Like the design or not, it's not a cheap design for a phone.

This said, I do think perhaps on a phone so tall and thin, aluminum might not have been the most durable choice.
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I won't debate whether using aluminum was a good choice for the phone, but here's what I do want to say.

I keep hearing the statement, apple "cheaped out" on materials and quality".

As I said, is aluminum a good choice for a thin phone, it's certainly debatable. BUT, you just cannot say apple cut corners, and built the phone "on the cheap", virtually every other smart phone is made primarily from cheap, easily processed plastic. The iPhone is anodized aluminum and glass, with polished chamfered edges.

Again, like the design or not, think its durable, or not, you just cannot say when apple alone made a fairly difficult to manufacture anodized aluminum and glass phone, to everyone else's truly inexpensive plastic, that they went "cheap".

Whatever type of aluminum they used, they still created a much higher end (more expensive to build) phone in a market where most phones are truly as cheap as possible to build.

Like the design or not, it's not a cheap design for a phone.

This said, I do think perhaps on a phone so tall and thin, aluminum might not have been the most durable choice.
I do agree with you mostly. I don't think Apple completely 'chinsed' out with this phone. I just wish they has spent probably $2 more on a higher grade aluminum. It would have helped with the easy denting, scratching, etc. Maybe they could have done more field testing-which would have shown the durability issues. Still like the phone and prefer it to a plastic based phone.
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I do agree with you mostly. I don't think Apple completely 'chinsed' out with this phone. I just wish they has spent probably $2 more on a higher grade aluminum. It would have helped with the easy denting, scratching, etc. Maybe they could have done more field testing-which would have shown the durability issues. Still like the phone and prefer it to a plastic based phone.
there are grades to aluminium?? There would be different grades of aluminium alloys...but i'm pretty sure what apple uses is just aluminium an element??
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there are grades to aluminium?? There would be different grades of aluminium alloys...but i'm pretty sure what apple uses is just aluminium an element??
Yes, there are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_alloy
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