Hey, this thread just got interesting again!
Hey, this thread just got interesting again!
Even without the new law, it appears Samsung legal team was sloppy from get go. They completely missed out on jury foreman's background. Not sure if they even called their own expert witnesses, if so how effective they were explaining to jury.
Yep sure
The unit of capacitance is the farad, named after Michael Faraday.
They did call many expert witnesses, and a lot of their prior art evidence, as well as evidence relating to the general design of the F700 wasn't allowed into the trial.
All things for the pending appeal. Same for the jury foreman. Koh refused it, but she's not the 9th district or the appellate court.
It's funny you're quite to claim the Samsung counsel was sloppy and yet fail to mention how Apple's counsel was equally sloppy, failing to prove any kind of damages to Apple if no injunction was granted and thus Apple cannot even block infringing Samsung devices from sale.
Or they were very wise - as in "crazy like a fox".
Let the blowhard jury foreman taint the case, then bring it up during appeal. It could be better to have an incompetent, potentially biased foreman than one truly aware.
Microsoft did well in their big trial by infuriating the judge to the point where he made emotional mistakes that invalidated most of the ruling.
Remember the movie quote "there were plans within plans"....
They did call many expert witnesses, and a lot of their prior art evidence, as well as evidence relating to the general design of the F700 wasn't allowed into the trial.
All things for the pending appeal. Same for the jury foreman. Koh refused it, but she's not the 9th district or the appellate court.
It's funny you're quite to claim the Samsung counsel was sloppy and yet fail to mention how Apple's counsel was equally sloppy, failing to prove any kind of damages to Apple if no injunction was granted and thus Apple cannot even block infringing Samsung devices from sale.
So, Samsung's expert witnesses were not effective. I am not saying Apple's attorneys were great. We live a winner takes all country. Samsung team should have tried harder. i thought jury consultants are paid big bucks to make sure the odds of winning are good.
I first saw it for a demo for the Microsoft Surface (table, not tablet) back in 2006. They had a guy sorting through photos and zooming them in and out on their prototype touchscreen displays.
Microsoft surface was demod more than a year before this with full pinch to zoom functionality.
10 up-votes for a bogus statement. Real knowledgeable peeps we have here.
Microsoft didn't demo Surface until 2007, at the very end of May. That was four months after the iPhone was announced, and less than a month before it was shipping. At that time Surface was no where near ready and would not be an actual commercial product till the following year (barely).
You didn't see a demo of it in 2006.
Michael
Wrong. Surface was demo'd the first time at D: All Things Digital conference at the end of May, 2007--well after the iPhone was announced, if not already in production (since it would arrive in customers' hands less than a month later).
They're totally right.... I mean, I was using pinch-to-zoom on everything before 2006. My flip phone, my XP tablet, my mini-xp tablet, my Rio MP3 player. It was getting so old by the time iPhone came out. I hope they burn.
Go to 33:40, and see it for the first time on any consumer device, ever:
Wasn't pinch to zoom demoed in some multi-touch university research back in the 70s?
If it were then there would be a case for prior art.
When Apple showed it for the first time, people ooh'd, ahh'd, clapped, whistled, and cheered, because it was THAT good.
http://www.ted.com/talks/jeff_han_demos_his_breakthrough_touchscreen.html
Jeff Han of NYU demonstrates pinch to zoom in 2006. It is unclear from the article exactly when Apple applied for this patent but the concept was apparently in the public domain by 2006. I read that the patent office simply receives patents without much research as to their validity and then lets the lawyers sort it out. Patents for ideas in the public domain are clearly invalid.
Mentholyptus might want to notice that Han's audience "ooh'd, ahh'd, clapped, whistled, and cheered" too. Obviously they had never seen an iPhone because it was not 2007 yet and most of Jobs' 2007 audience must not have seen Han's video or they would have been a lot less impressed.
Of course .... Apple did not invent the telephone. But everyone wants to be like the iPhone
I don't really get the patent system, but I will guess that if Apple deserves a patent and what you say is true, then the patent becomes FRAND, not invalid.
I think the point of this story is that Apple didn't invent neither the physical design (LG Prada/Samsung F700 say hi!) nor a lot of the technology in them.
That Apple used technologies and designs that were out there to produce an amazing mobile phone/platform is undeniable. That they invented it ? Sorry, the USPTO is catching on that they didn't with all these reviews that are going on.
The reason the USPTO is reviewing Apple's patents is because others are challenging them and requesting the review - it's not the USPTO doing this on its own. Apple has been successful in getting a number of such preliminary invalidations overturned upon full review.
Genuinely curious, what patents have been preliminary invalidated and then overturned?