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Old Dec 28, 2012, 05:47 AM   #26
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Would a Kindle smartphone sync with iTunes?
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Sure, iTunes is known to work well with non-Apple devices
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iOS is still the best thing going
It certainly was years ago - but those times are over ..
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 06:02 AM   #27
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If this phone rumor goes ahead and becomes reality, Jeff Bozo better start padding his resumé. Amazon had its first quarterly net loss in 9 years last quarter (and the Fire HD helped Amazon along). Amazon sells at cost and expects money to come from content sales. This didn't happen with the original Fire, it isn't happening with the HD and it certainly won't happen with a phone.
Besides, who wants a phone designed to be an Amazon catalog with adverts on the homescreen?
Source? Cause Amazon hasn't been that open about the sales it generates from the Kindle fire.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 07:36 AM   #28
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I think what people tend to forget is that Amazon will have the same carrier stumbling blocks as Google is having with Android. In order for them to be successful, and have a mass market phone they will have to partner with the carriers, good luck! Steve Jobs was so good, he was able to sell cingular the iPhone without them being able to even see what they were buying. Now that's a great salesman!

EDIT: I don't think an Amazon smartphone will be any cheaper than the Nexus 4. Sure Amazon can sell at cost, and try to recoup with App sales/Prime/Amazon store etc...But I'm fairly certain the Nexus 4 is already at cost, because Google can make it up with ad revenue. I see the smartphone market being a little more difficult than the tablet market. Apple will be fine, they run the smartphone market in America, and much of the world.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 09:01 AM   #29
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I think what people tend to forget is that Amazon will have the same carrier stumbling blocks as Google is having with Android. .
What stumbling blocks - if the phone is unlocked like the N4 then it shouldn't be an issue - at least Amazon isn't so useless like Google when it comes to deliveries / pre-orders etc.

Google just cannot deal with the shopping process itself - that at least Amazon can
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 09:53 AM   #30
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The skin Amazon uses is painfully laggy and slow. It stutters all the time. It was a problem on the first gen fire running 2.3 and it's also a problem on the second gen running 4.0 and to a lesser extent, the fire HD. Amazon needs to fix it. It's a good tablet with solid specs but is being crippled by amazons software. Rooting it and installing 4.1 makes it a comparable experience to the Nexus 7 running stock android.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 01:17 PM   #31
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Source? Cause Amazon hasn't been that open about the sales it generates from the Kindle fire.
Source is Amazon's quarterly report. This is an open source document available to anyone that does a google search.

Amazon does not report sales figures of individual products, but it legally has to tell the public and investors how it gains and loses money.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 04:01 PM   #32
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what's a google-free android?
It doesn't have Google services on the phone (eliminates issues related to Google, a couple of examples: http://us.gizmodo.com/5878987/its-of...le-is-evil-now and http://bgr.com/2012/03/23/google-wan...o-promote-ads/).

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Sure, iTunes is known to work well with non-Apple devices
As if it's such a pleasure to use with Apple devices.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 04:03 PM   #33
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There has never been a true iPhone/iPad killer, so I don't think that the unlocked price will bring the iPad down.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 04:44 PM   #34
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I just want good battery life. Amazon is very good about that.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 05:02 PM   #35
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Very hard for amazon to hit the $199 unlocked unsubsidized price point for a phone.

Remember phones have extra chips like 3G/4g/GPS all in a smaller package.

The nexus 4 sells like hot cakes for $299/349 at the Play store and sold out for weeks. So amazon would be idiots to try to hit the $199 price.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 05:31 PM   #36
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It would be interesting to see what Amazon could produce.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 06:16 PM   #37
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Content is king as they say, and Amazon has content. But it would be nice if Blackberry 10 created some true competition for iOS.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 07:07 PM   #38
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Just surprised (for those one 1-2 line post paid plans). Just surprised in the USA that consumers can't realize a $299/349 high end smartphone like the nexus 4 is a bargin when used with a prepaid carrier like straight talk $45 or T mobile $30 5GB plan.

Amazon probably will have a hard time in the cell phone business cause its just hard to convince the American public.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 07:12 PM   #39
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Source is Amazon's quarterly report. This is an open source document available to anyone that does a google search.

Amazon does not report sales figures of individual products, but it legally has to tell the public and investors how it gains and loses money.

Most of Amazon's loss was from investing in Living Social. Amazon has pretty much broke even with the Kindle Fire all while increasing registration on a large scale, which was their purpose to begin with.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 07:14 PM   #40
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I welcome competition. Its better for us, that blackberry looks beautiful.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 09:20 PM   #41
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What stumbling blocks - if the phone is unlocked like the N4 then it shouldn't be an issue - at least Amazon isn't so useless like Google when it comes to deliveries / pre-orders etc.

Google just cannot deal with the shopping process itself - that at least Amazon can
But the general public doesn't want a DIY smartphone. Search Google, and you'll see that most people have no clue how to get the N4 running on their own. Amazon has no experience in mobile, good luck to them!
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 03:34 AM   #42
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Very hard for amazon to hit the $199 unlocked unsubsidized price point for a phone.

Remember phones have extra chips like 3G/4g/GPS all in a smaller package.

The nexus 4 sells like hot cakes for $299/349 at the Play store and sold out for weeks. So amazon would be idiots to try to hit the $199 price.

The amazonphone will be $299 for 16GB (unlocked and no contract like the Nexus 4).

(just my prediction).
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 12:15 PM   #43
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I doubt there's space for Amazon. At 199 they can't produce a phone that'll compete with the likes of the iPhone, S3 and nexus. Next up I also doubt they'll be able to get carriers on board. Which means the only way to get the phone will be on their site like the nexus. Mind you while the nexus is great it's far from having main stream traction. Getting that traction will be even harder if it isn't what the geeks want. Lastly I don't really see how Amazon would make money with a phone. There's a lot less downloading of media going on than on a tablet.
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 12:59 PM   #44
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Many people would use a device or service subsidized by ads. Millions already do this with the Kindle devices. If the ads do not interfere with usage it might work.
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 02:44 PM   #45
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Queue up the carousel UI.
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 03:03 PM   #46
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I this is true I'm going to have to pick a few up for my parents. 200 dollar phone would be amazing.
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 06:38 PM   #47
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Queue up the carousel UI.
The UI will have to be more adaptable for a smartphone.
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Amazon Smartphone Will Disrupt Market

Amazon smartphone may disrupt data pricing:

http://news.investors.com/technology...ry-pricing.htm

Seems BB10 will support Android Apps:
http://bgr.com/2013/01/08/blackberry...5/#more-285705

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