I'm still waiting for that link. It's been two days and you still haven't found anything yet. Are you going to produce anything of any substance or should I just stop waiting?
I find it fairly amusing that your charts and graphs prove my point and refute yours. That you can't differentiate between current user data and irrefutable trends is your problem, not mine. You sunk your own ship.
And just to rub some salt in your wounds, here is a post from TODAY'S main page on mac rumors:
Apple Launching Larger, Low-Cost iPhone for Emerging Markets Late This Year?
"Some sources claimed that they have seen the sample of the low-cost iPhone, which will come with a larger display, meeting the prevailing trend for the adoption of 5-inch displays for high-end models. They added that the low-priced iPhone will also have a brand new exterior design."
Read it and weep.
You are correct. All flagship smartphones are increasing in size, but that's not what he said
Also, the statistics I've shown are not for dumbphones at 4" or lower, they are for smartphones at 4" or lower. If it is agreed that Apple is competing with Android smartphone manufacturers, and it is shown that 93.9% of all Android sales are of phones that are 4" or lower, how can you conclude that Apple is not competing against Android phones that are 4" or lower?
Yes, I agree with you. I never said you were wrong.
I do not doubt that you would find a small number of 4" or under phones at the big three phone outlets (if those outlets are anything like Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint in the US). If you went to a prepaid outlet, where phones are purchased without a subsidy, things might look differently.
The problem with picking and choosing when to pay attention to the stats, is that it produces inconsistent arguments like the one being purported in this thread. The large number of Android sales constantly being thrown around, includes the 93.9% of Android smartphones which are 4" or lower. But people use those numbers to conclude "Look at how much Android is selling! Apple will be left in the dust if they keep offering 2011 screens into the future.", because they assume it's the large screened phones which are selling the most. This seems to be a logical conclusion, because when they walk into their local store, they barely see any 4" or lower screens.
The stats, however, show this conclusion is based on an invalid assumption. An assumption that the Android sales numbers are supported primarily by these large-screened flagship models.
When we look at the numbers, we see the 4" iPhone 5 has broken the sales record for the fastest selling smartphone. When we compare iPhone sales, to sales of the flagship models you are referring to (6.1% of all Android sales), we see the "small screen" iPhone sales numbers are completely dominant.
This is why, when people make the claims like this:
they are never able to produce any sources to support their claim of where the market is going, because the market, defined by:
"...the set of all actual and potential buyers of a product or service."
http://www.tutor2u.net/business/marketing/market_analysis_defining.asp
is moving towards the "small screened" iPhone at a much faster rate.
Yes, I agree with you. I never said you were wrong.
I do not doubt that you would find a small number of 4" or under phones at the big three phone outlets (if those outlets are anything like Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint in the US). If you went to a prepaid outlet, where phones are purchased without a subsidy, things might look differently.
The problem with picking and choosing when to pay attention to the stats, is that it produces inconsistent arguments like the one being purported in this thread. The large number of Android sales constantly being thrown around, includes the 93.9% of Android smartphones which are 4" or lower. But people use those numbers to conclude "Look at how much Android is selling! Apple will be left in the dust if they keep offering 2011 screens into the future.", because they assume it's the large screened phones which are selling the most. This seems to be a logical conclusion, because when they walk into their local store, they barely see any 4" or lower screens.
The stats, however, show this conclusion is based on an invalid assumption. An assumption that the Android sales numbers are supported primarily by these large-screened flagship models.
When we look at the numbers, we see the 4" iPhone 5 has broken the sales record for the fastest selling smartphone. When we compare iPhone sales, to sales of the flagship models you are referring to (6.1% of all Android sales), we see the "small screen" iPhone sales numbers are completely dominant.
This is why, when people make the claims like this:
they are never able to produce any sources to support their claim of where the market is going, because the market, defined by:
"...the set of all actual and potential buyers of a product or service."
http://www.tutor2u.net/business/marketing/market_analysis_defining.asp
is moving towards the "small screened" iPhone at a much faster rate.
Thanks kdarling, you're always a breath of sanity and well thought out/researched responses among so much emotion."It's on the internet. It must be true!"
This is such a common myth. We've been over this so many times before. My apologies; I'm just out of hospital and a bit tired. For now, I beg you to do an advanced search on the topic. Just plug in my name and a keyword like "inventory" or "channel".
To start, here's an old post with a Business Insider source explaining why Apple includes store sales.
Also, read this post quoting Tim Cook admitting when their sales figures were over by millions because of too much sell-in to stores and not enough sell-through to end users.
Thanks, I'll contact and correct the young girl blogger who wrote that article.
In the meantime, read this post of mine with multiple CNN Money sources pointing out that even those first weekend iPhone sales numbers included shipments to retailers and carriers.