I'm not saying OS X supports other PCs. I'm talking about pre-install Windows on Mac, no Bootcamp, no OS X.
Sorry, misunderstood.
I'm not saying OS X supports other PCs. I'm talking about pre-install Windows on Mac, no Bootcamp, no OS X.
A billion trillion zillion? Probably not as well as you'd like.
What statistics are those ? You're saying Apple moved only 2 million iPads/Macs combined in the holiday quarter of 2012 in the US ?
These statistics don't have the tablets in them.
Sigh... Who is he to judge what others prefer?
Google for "Apple quarterly report" to get some accurate numbers about Apple computer sales.
Reminded me a bit of Richard Stallman (and not just in terms of his opinion).
Personally I'm all for opensource software, but hating someone for trying to make a living off their hard work developing software is bat crap crazy.
I couldn't find Q4 sales, but according to this, I'm right. While it has a stronger presence in Europe than I initially thought, Macs are majorly a US brand. Stronger growth here doesn't directly translate to stronger growth elsewhere in the world.
These numbers show of course in no way whatsoever that you are right, because your statement was that Apple isn't doing as well in international markets as I thought it did. And since you didn't have the slightest idea how well I thought Apple was doing, your statement was completely unsubstantiated.
Another statement that you made was that Apple wasn't doing as well as I liked. Since you have no idea how well I would like Apple to do, you also have no idea whether Apple does better, less good, or exactly as good as I like.
The numbers you quoted don't show in any way that Apple doesn't grow outside the USA. It does. The numbers you quoted also show that Apple was selling four million Macs in a quarter a year ago; so you can make of that what you want, but it makes Apple one of the most successful computer makers world wide.
I think it was reported here not too long ago that iPads and other table devices sold more units than desktop computers in a recent quarter.
Lenovo is getting noticed. I wonder how many people chose a Lenovo lap top over Apple lap tops?
(Funny side-note: We had a linux obsessed lecturer who spent 2 hours shouting at everyone in the room for being on a Mac or Windows machine, and he stood there with his laptop giving a presentation. Literally as he said "Those crappy closed source operating systems are so unreliable" his laptop locked up. Needless to say the lecture ended at that point. )
I didn't realize HP was doing so well... I'm in a room full of laptops right now and glancing around me I can make out...
4 MacBook Airs, 1 MacBook Pro, 1 Acer, 1 Dell, 1 HP, and 1 IBM.
What do the numbers look like when you just look at laptops?
Edit: I'm in a university engineering classroom... my understanding was many engineering students use Windows...
No sorry, trying to dismiss market share numbers with "profit" is the argument of someone looking to justify Apple's position in some way. It's not really the topic and no one rational would care enough that Apple is #3 to try and attack HP and Dell's #1 spot.
No one but shareholders care about profits.
If you ask me, the less profits the better I'm off.
Lenovo is getting noticed. I wonder how many people chose a Lenovo lap top over Apple lap tops?
I love MacRumors.
On the same day you can read all the complaints of posters here about how expensive the iPhone is (especially to keep buying the newest one off contract since they aren't ready for their upgrade) and how Apple should lower their prices
ANDDDDDD
Read the fanfare in another thread over Apple making record profits.
HEY GUYS! WATCH ME SPLIT LITERAL HAIRS! BUT NOT LITERALLY, BECAUSE HAIRS ARE HARD TO SPLIT! HOW DO YOU KNOW I WANT TO SPLIT HAIRS?
Going by your post, it was pretty safe to assume you believed they were doing just as well elsewhere as they were here. Yeah, I might've jumped a little ahead of myself by thinking you'd like Apple to do well in other countries, and...
...you know what?
This is a dumb, pointless conversation.
Sometimes, late at night, I think about all the stupid people who use Android phones. After awhile, I just can't take it any more. The emotions get to me. Start welling inside me until I have no other choice but to put on a chicken costume and run into oncoming traffic on the freeway.
(Funny side-note: We had a linux obsessed lecturer who spent 2 hours shouting at everyone in the room for being on a Mac or Windows machine, and he stood there with his laptop giving a presentation. Literally as he said "Those crappy closed source operating systems are so unreliable" his laptop locked up. Needless to say the lecture ended at that point. )