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Old Jan 12, 2013, 11:34 AM   #26
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 11:37 AM   #27
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I'm not sure how much, or if textbooks have changed, other than current events of course, but growing up in the mid to late eighties I remember a strong and lengthy focus on the early explorers. I remember being fascinated by it as well. As a matter of fact, they are some of the few lessons from grade school that I still vividly remember.

Social Issues and politics weren't touched until the obligatory Law and Government classes in high school. Even in those classes it was just basic terminology and processes, never any real opinion on the issues, just reviewing procedures from major court cases.

Even looking back I don't recall an "extreme left or right" slant to any of it. I agree that these people are really reaching which is why I stopped watching TV news altogether.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 11:46 AM   #28
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In case you have everyone else asking for a response from you on your ignore list I know you quoted me in another thread so I'm not on it and you'll see this. So do you have a response to the thread topic?
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 12:29 PM   #29
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So yes, the distributive property, the tenet of 6th grade algebra, that states that 2(x + y) = (2x + 2y) is socialist indoctrination. Damn liberals want to redistribute that 2 to everyone.
I watched the video. The host of the show was pointing out the picture of a woman with a bag of money literally "distributing the wealth" to others. He expressed his concern that such an idea is indoctrination for kids at that age.

At no point did he express any concern about children learning the distributive property of algebra.

Nice job (once again) of distorting the message.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 12:43 PM   #30
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I watched the video. The host of the show was pointing out the picture of a woman with a bag of money literally "distributing the wealth" to others. He expressed his concern that such an idea is indoctrination for kids at that age.

At no point did he express any concern about children learning the distributive property of algebra.

Nice job (once again) of distorting the message.
even factoring in that it is still a massive massive stretch even for Faux News.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 02:15 PM   #31
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I watched the video. The host of the show was pointing out the picture of a woman with a bag of money literally "distributing the wealth" to others. He expressed his concern that such an idea is indoctrination for kids at that age.
Look at the worksheet. It's just a picture accompanying a bunch of arithmetic problems.
http://teacherexpress.scholastic.com...ation-grade-5#

There aren't any words describing the girl or the money, outside the worksheet's title. They aren't even word problems, just straight arithmetic.

For all anyone knows, the picture could be of a girl collecting donations for distribution to charity. Since we're just making up stories to go with pictures, that makes as much sense as any "redistributing wealth" interpretation. Or maybe it's a secret psychological test, and the stories we make up about it reflect our inner selves.

Here's another worksheet, about Money! Money! Money! (Subtracting Money):
http://teacherexpress.scholastic.com.../category/206/

Fortunately there are no subversive pictures, but the exclamation points on "Money" and the emphasis on subtraction, are a clear indicator that we should be exclaiming with joy over having our money subtracted by taxation.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 02:25 PM   #32
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Psst!

The associative property is a plan to force mixing of the races, thereby mongrelizing the purity of the whites.

The multiplicative property is what's causing the foreigners to outnumber the white voters.

And the commutative property is designed to get all criminals out of prison.

Pass it on.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 02:28 PM   #33
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Fox ( and other right wingers ) should consider this distributive property :

Mark 6:31-44

When it was already late, his disciples came to him and said, “This is an isolated place and it is already very late. Send them away so that they can go into the surrounding countryside and villages and buy something for themselves to eat.” But he answered them, “You give them something to eat.” And they said, “Should we go and buy bread for two hundred silver coins and give it to them to eat?” He said to them, “How many loaves do you have? Go and see.” When they found out, they said, “Five—and two fish.” Then he directed them all to sit down in groups on the green grass. So they reclined in groups of hundreds and fifties. He took the five loaves and the two fish, and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. He gave them to his disciples to serve the people, and he divided the two fish among them all. They all ate and were satisfied, and they picked up the broken pieces and fish that were left over, twelve baskets full. Now there were five thousand men who ate the bread.

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When are they going to understand the simple concept that their God is a socialist.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 03:42 PM   #34
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When are they going to understand the simple concept that their God is a socialist.
Never, because this would involve actual rational, critical thinking. Alas, for many people who believe in religion, rational thought isn't one of their strong points.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 03:44 PM   #35
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Unbelievable. What has the world come to? I hate Fox News. I'd sooner eat live hornets washed down with sulphuric acid than watch a single minute of the "news" on that station.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 03:57 PM   #36
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C. They no longer get your posts in their news feed
Touche but I know they get my feed. They comment on everything else. If I wrote "I support disarming America" they'd be all over it.

Just for the record I am not against people owning guns, I have a few myself, but I am for tighter restrictions especially on concealed carry permits because I know far too many irresponsible gun owners.

I just had a friend post on his facebook that he doesn't feel like he needs to lock his weapons up because "his 1.5 year old son would never touch it". Thats scary and thats the kind of person in my opinion who shouldn't own guns.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 04:12 PM   #37
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I just had a friend post on his facebook that he doesn't feel like he needs to lock his weapons up because "his 1.5 year old son would never touch it". Thats scary and thats the kind of person in my opinion who shouldn't own guns.
That's the same person who says "I never thought it would happen here" after his 18 month old gets a hold of his gun and accidentally blows his face off.

We can put in as many regulations on guns as we want but you can't legislate against stupidity.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 04:19 PM   #38
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The associative property is a plan to force mixing of the races, thereby mongrelizing the purity of the whites.

The multiplicative property is what's causing the foreigners to outnumber the white voters.

And the commutative property is designed to get all criminals out of prison.

Pass it on.
Well, what about the theorem of Pythagoras? That involves squares and triangles sounds like someone is trying to encourage adulterous behavior, that does!
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even factoring in that it is still a massive massive stretch even for Faux News.
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Look at the worksheet. It's just a picture accompanying a bunch of arithmetic problems.
I'm not addressing whether the hosts are needlessly worried - I already know they're making a bigger deal of this than I think is necessary.

But I'm not addressing whether I think they're wrong - I'm addressing that I think the OP is wrong.

He very clearly said that the host of the show is upset over the distributive property, which (if you watch the video) is not at all what he was saying. He was upset over presenting the idea of distributing wealth to kids. The OP has completely misrepresented the story.
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He very clearly said that the host of the show is upset over the distributive property, which (if you watch the video) is not at all what he was saying. He was upset over presenting the idea of distributing wealth to kids. The OP has completely misrepresented the story.
I'm going to agree to a point. Yes, the host was really focusing on the concept of redistribution of wealth and the indoctrination of left-wing values in our school children ().

But I disagree that the OP has "completely misrepresented the story."

The OP includes this quote from the show where the host complains about the "liberally biased" history textbook ...

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Bolling advised parents to read their children's history books because his son's textbook addressed the Iraq war "and they were very, very liberally biased, saying George Bush went in there because he heard there were weapons of mass destruction and they were never found. It was a very liberal bias to the history books."
That part of the OP was quite factual (and just as scary).

At best you could say the OP misrepresented some of the story.

But it is an overstatement to say the OP completely misrepresented the story.
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I'm not addressing whether the hosts are needlessly worried - I already know they're making a bigger deal of this than I think is necessary.

But I'm not addressing whether I think they're wrong - I'm addressing that I think the OP is wrong.

He very clearly said that the host of the show is upset over the distributive property, which (if you watch the video) is not at all what he was saying. He was upset over presenting the idea of distributing wealth to kids. The OP has completely misrepresented the story.
I read this from the OP:
So yes, the distributive property, the tenet of 6th grade algebra, that states that 2(x + y) = (2x + 2y) is socialist indoctrination. Damn liberals want to redistribute that 2 to everyone.
as sarcasm, with a distinct flavor of hyperbole.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 10:01 PM   #42
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I watched the video. The host of the show was pointing out the picture of a woman with a bag of money literally "distributing the wealth" to others. He expressed his concern that such an idea is indoctrination for kids at that age.

At no point did he express any concern about children learning the distributive property of algebra.

Nice job (once again) of distorting the message.
I watched it too. They're really projecting on this one.
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At best you could say the OP misrepresented some of the story.
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...sarcasm, with a distinct flavor of hyperbole.
I understand, and I would be inclined to agree with you both - but the very title of the thread is equally distorted. That tells me it's about being misleading, rather than being sarcastic.
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I understand, and I would be inclined to agree with you both - but the very title of the thread is equally distorted. That tells me it's about being misleading, rather than being sarcastic.
So how about I change the thread title to "Fox News: Teaching students the facts about the Iraq War is liberal indoctrination" and leave the algebra stuff as a side note, would that make you feel better?
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I understand, and I would be inclined to agree with you both - but the very title of the thread is equally distorted. That tells me it's about being misleading, rather than being sarcastic.
You just need to understand the agenda.

The end ALWAYS justifies the means. Lies are not lies when they promote anti-conservative positions, discredit big business, big pharma or Fox News.
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You just need to understand the agenda.

The end ALWAYS justifies the means. Lies are not lies when they promote anti-conservative positions, discredit big business, big pharma or Fox News.
Oh please. This is just silly. And BTW- Fox News does a good job discrediting itself. It needs no help from anyone.
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So how about I change the thread title to "Fox News: Teaching students the facts about the Iraq War is liberal indoctrination" and leave the algebra stuff as a side note, would that make you feel better?
If you're going to create a thread about what some douche said on Fox News or whatever network, at least make it about what he actually said, not about what you extrapolate it to mean. Otherwise your story is just as unreliable as the "facts" you claim the network is presenting.
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Oh please. This is just silly. And BTW- Fox News does a good job discrediting itself. It needs no help from anyone.
Nothing silly about it leek. You guys prove me right on this forum every day.
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Nothing silly about it leek. You guys prove me right on this forum every day.
In your own mind, I'm sure we do. You do the same for us- in spades.

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If you're going to create a thread about what some douche said on Fox News or whatever network, at least make it about what he actually said, not about what you extrapolate it to mean. Otherwise your story is just as unreliable as the "facts" you claim the network is presenting.
Agreed, but in this case, you have to admit that Fox was really reaching. And the OP merely slightly altered the headline. So if you want to go after someone, go after the source.

EDIT- just watched the video. Some very stupid exchanges of conversation by a bunch of morons on lots of issues. Embarrassing stuff for Fox.

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