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Hand gun 18 52.94%
Shot gun 4 11.76%
Rifle, high powered 4 11.76%
Rifle, semi-auto 8 23.53%
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 05:53 PM   #26
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The most amazing thing about this poll is that 7 people (when I last looked) actually responded to it.
I not my second wife used to fill out all those polls that they have in women's magazines, even the one which had no bearing on her lifestyle.

It was a Poll I must fill it out.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 05:55 PM   #27
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Guns aren't dangerous, people are.
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It's also missing a "All of the above" and I'm scared of "Bunnies with big guns"
Chubby bunnies + marshmallow cannons.

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The most amazing thing about this poll is that 7 people (when I last looked) actually responded to it.
I also see the "write ins" of "All of the above" and "None of the above" have 4 votes each, outnumbering the listed options where the highest have 3 votes.
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Guns aren't dangerous, people are.
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Guns make dangerous people more lethal.


And the concept of this poll is flawed.
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In your opinion, what is the most dangerous* kind of firearm?
Without reading any of the other posts, here's my answer to the question with which I believe you're trying to trap people.

It depends on how you define "dangerous".

If you define danger by the gun most likely to be encountered in a crime, then handguns are the most dangerous.

If you define danger by the gun I'd least like to see in the hands of a mass shooter on a rampage while I'm shopping at Sears then the answer would be a gun capable of holding a high-capacity magazine and more capable of accurate targeting at longer ranges.

But truly, the most dangerous gun is whatever gun somebody is threatening my life with. I'm really not that picky. They all seem to work pretty well at killing people.

Now I'll read the other posts to see if I have the right answer.

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Old Jan 14, 2013, 06:32 PM   #32
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I sorry but you are really trying to hard to show that some people have a misguided idea over firearms in general.
Not trying to show anything, just asking a question.

Wouldn't say misguided idea either, no matter which way.
Not trying to guide anyone either.

Could say I am illustrating ignorance.

I bet if I asked before Newtown, this poll would not get anywhere near the scrutiny.

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Guns make dangerous people more lethal.


And the concept of this poll is flawed.
How so?

What would you have as question?

Legit, no trick, question.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 06:34 PM   #33
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Semi-automatic can never be as powerful as hand chambered (bolt, lever, manual load) as a significant portion of the propellent energy is diverted from projectile to loading in the next round.
If you believe that a hand-chambered .22 long rifle is as powerful as a .30-06 semiautomatic, then the poll is most certainly flawed.
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I bet if I asked before Newtown, this poll would not get anywhere near the scrutiny.

I'll counter by saying I'd bet you wouldn't have asked before Newtown either.

And I say that as a pro-gun rights poster who has no problem with semi-auto assault style guns or any other guns for that matter.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 06:45 PM   #35
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Well then I'll say none. Based on my interpretation of the question.

It's bullets fired from a gun that are actually dangerous. And you asked nothing about bullets. Sure there are people who are "pistol whipped", but these are few and far between and I think that fits in the same category as clubs and fists.

Does that satisfy your curiosity?
Ok, so what kind of bullets?
Generally speaking, one cannot fit shotgun shells into a handgun.

So which is it?


(I know, 22 LR can be fired by both pistols and rifles, and Thompson's can fire .45, but those are a few exceptions)
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Not trying to show anything, just asking a question.

Wouldn't say misguided idea either, no matter which way.
Not trying to guide anyone either.

Could say I am illustrating ignorance.

I bet if I asked before Newtown, this poll would not get anywhere near the scrutiny.

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How so?

What would you have as question?

Legit, no trick, question.
I will counter that with the argument, it's not important what gun you have it more important how good a shot you are, if you cannot hit your target it doesn't matter how scary or big your gun is.
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I will counter that with the argument, it's not important what gun you have it more important how good a shot you are, if you cannot hit your target it doesn't matter how scary or big your gun is.
So, you are saying we have nothing to be afraid of with guns, especially if its big and scary.
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Ok, so what kind of bullets?
Generally speaking, one cannot fit shotgun shells into a handgun.

So which is it?


(I know, 22 LR can be fired by both pistols and rifles, and Thompson's can fire .45, but those are a few exceptions)

All bullets are dangerous when fired from guns. I know of folks killed by .50cal rifle rounds, I also know of people who have died after being shot with BB guns.

Sure the BB gun might not be "just as powerful" as the .50cal, but the person is certainly "just as dead".

I still don't know what you hope to learn by asking all these purely subjective questions.

Why don't you answer your own question, I'd be interested in reading that!
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One which is wrongly thought to be unloaded.
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One which is wrongly thought to be unloaded.
Which one might be most commonly thought to be unloaded?
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Which one might be most commonly thought to be unloaded?
Let me ask a question are you any relation to hafr, he always only asks questions, he's never really interested it the answer, because it just leads to another question.
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All bullets are dangerous when fired from guns. I know of folks killed by .50cal rifle rounds, I also know of people who have died after being shot with BB guns.

Sure the BB gun might not be "just as powerful" as the .50cal, but the person is certainly "just as dead".

I still don't know what you hope to learn by asking all these purely subjective questions.

Why don't you answer your own question, I'd be interested in reading that!
So now you have added air rifles to list.
Lewis and Clark used air rifles to hunt with.

It is a purely subject question, yes.
I have learned that many posters here are quite objective.

Give me your choice first, I will give you mine (with reason).

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Let me ask a question are you any relation to hafr, he always only asks questions, he's never really interested it the answer, because it just leads to another question.
Tell my why you subjectively picked one, you can even explain why, and I will tell you what I think.

Unlike hafr, I am not seeking gun control.
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So now you have added air rifles to list.
Lewis and Clark used air rifles to hunt with.

It is a purely subject question, yes.
I have learned that many posters here are quite objective.

Give me your choice first, I will give you mine (with reason).
Out of that list, I'll say handguns then. And I'll say the reason is that they are responsible for the most human deaths out of any on that particular list in this day and age.

Now you go...
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Out of that list, I'll say handguns then. And I'll say the reason is that they are responsible for the most human deaths out of any on that particular list in this day and age.

Now you go...
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My same response, for the same reason.

I believe (without looking up the stats) as a ratio of all firearms it causes the most deaths, either intentionally or accidentally. The ease of concealment makes it more of a surprise.
I also believe it is because those with the least, or no, experiance with firearms own/use this. Especially the NO experiance, and the subsequent accidents.

Shotguns have a reputation for being more lethal when used, not sure if true, but its hard to miss with a shotgun. I saw video of someone with shotgun crammed down their pants pull it out rob a store.

Rifles, even semi auto, pretty obvious, and I am sure hard to cram down ones pants. Easier to see trouble, element of surprise greatly reduced. Least involved in accidental shootings, I think.


(FYI, while I can legally own a firearm, I do not have one)
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Incomplete choices given in the poll. i suspect either out of naivete or an intention to misdirect the discussion. All guns are the most dangerous if a person is intent on doing harm
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Shotguns have a reputation for being more lethal when used, not sure if true, but its hard to miss with a shotgun. I saw video of someone with shotgun crammed down their pants pull it out rob a store.
It is true if the gun is used at close enough range. Shot, being of small mass, loses inertia very quickly. Shots from distance have a much less lethal "punch" than those from up-close. I've worked the ER at a major trauma center and have seen GSW's of all different types. Shotguns have almost uniformly caused the worst damage (to the few that even survive long enough to make it into the ER).

One specific example I witnessed personally was the 2007 Trolley Square shooting in Salt Lake City.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_Square_shooting

I happened to be working at the closest trauma center and we received a few of the surviving victims, both shot with a 12 gauge shotgun. The damage done was horrifying to say the least, and I'm not at all squeamish about blood and trauma.

I've also seen people who attempted suicide with handguns but failed and the wounds were almost uniformly much much smaller and more manageable. We're talking the difference between a hole the diameter of a pencil going in, and perhaps a quarter or half-dollar coming out; versus the size of a baseball or softball going in, and a mini-basketball coming out.
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This should be a multiple choice poll.
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