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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:12 AM   #226
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I really hate this whole "cheaper iPhone" theory/idea/project/whatever. I think it's fine the way it is. Besides, there are plans that are more reasonable nowadays and also people are going to slap a case on their phone to change the color of it to what they want. I don't get the idea of making a cheaper more colorful version of the iPhone 5 (other than trying to saturate an already saturated mobile market with the Apple brand).
I'm not sure where you're located, but the rumors of this cheaper iPhone would be for emerging markets like South America, China, India, where price is an issue. We may not even see this phone in North America or Europe.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:17 AM   #227
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I want the retina Ipad Mini, they shouldve called it Ipad Air - perfect for travel.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:18 AM   #228
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I wish people would get there facts right. Tim Cook did not specify a new Mac Pro. He said something Pro's would really like. He also said later in 2013.

It doesn't help when the web site itself spreads mis-truths.
Very true. I still expect it to be a mac mini pro.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:18 AM   #229
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No offense but I don't agree that the new imacs have been well received at all. Theres a ton of complaints regarding them and many people think they made unworthy compromises in make the design thinner.
"People on this forum" are not the general consensus.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:23 AM   #230
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This just in. Industry sources expecting trees to continue to generate oxygen well into the third quarter of forever.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:23 AM   #231
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No offense but I don't agree that the new imacs have been well received at all. Theres a ton of complaints regarding them and many people think they made unworthy compromises in make the design thinner.
I have come to the same conclusion. I'm currently planning on replacing my iMac with a i7 Mac Mini with Fusion Drive. $300 for 16GB RAM? Sorry Apple, I just can't do it
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:25 AM   #232
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I really hate this whole "cheaper iPhone" theory/idea/project/whatever. I think it's fine the way it is. Besides, there are plans that are more reasonable nowadays and also people are going to slap a case on their phone to change the color of it to what they want. I don't get the idea of making a cheaper more colorful version of the iPhone 5 (other than trying to saturate an already saturated mobile market with the Apple brand).
Why think of it as a cheaper iPhone? Apple doesn't make cheap products, why would they start now? The mini isn't, as some ignorantly insist, a cheaper iPad, it's a smaller iPad that happens to be less expensive. Apple produced a smaller iPad and focussed all its attention on this one differentiating factor: smaller size; and they did a great job. With a new iPhone, they could easily find a feature or attribute on which to focus in a similar way. They could create a nano-like environment where it supports basic apps, but you can't buy or load any new ones on it - some of us would find that interesting because we don't want anything more than basic apps on our phone, we don't use our phones as a full-fledged computer, so most of it is wasted to us anyway. Maybe they focus on size of the phone. Maybe they focus on some other element, and in the end it will most likely be less expensive, but that doesn't mean it'll be a cheaper iPhone.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:29 AM   #233
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Well, not quite true. Nobody, or at least very, very few predicted the Ipad 4 before it was announced, everbody was talking about the Mini. And Ipad 3 was lanched without a major IOS update, so there is no law that says that a new Ipad has to be launched with a new IOS.

And there actually are rumors that an upgraded Mini is in the pipeline, so I wouldn't say there is "NOTHING": http://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/11/...-march-launch/
I think that iPad 4 with lightning was actually quite discussed (of course, mini was main rumour target).

iPad3 was released in March together with iOS 5.1, so yes it was accompanied by a newer iOS release as well.

As for mini, yes there are rumours but no parts and no details.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:33 AM   #234
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Hoping that Apple TV has wifi direct for less power and insanely faster airplay.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:44 AM   #235
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So if I take all of Apple's current products and them randomly place them on a 2013 calendar timeline, I can also be a high-level analyst? Apparently this analyst has not heard of the Mac Pro, Tim Cook promised to update that in 2013. Nice timeline...
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:48 AM   #236
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Jeez, i think anyone who reads a few blogs can be an analyst can't they.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:53 AM   #237
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My mother had an ATV2, and I got her to sell hers on eBay and immediately buy an ATV3, since she's not into jailbreaking hers (as I have done), she got the 1080p version and pocketed the difference - what a deal, she was quite happy.

If another ATV, though, is coming out, it'd have to be a big change to the device, such as what? I'm not sure, but it's already got 1080p, it does the job it's supposed to do, so it'd mean something like App Store functionality, which the previous models might not support?? That'd be upsetting. Easy tie in with remote or gaming controller, which might not be supported on the older ATVs?? It seems like a lot of the things they could do in a new box could be rolled back into the older versions through software updates, so what would require a new box? Can't wait to see, and would love to see them do more with the ATV, I've been a loyal fan of it since my ATV gen1 allowed me to cut the cable cord all those years ago.
Well I suspect that just upgrading the processor and increasing to 16 GB of ram can be done for about same price now as when Apple released the 3rd generation a year ago. The A5 single core might not even be a chip they want to keep making. Also, could they put the new wifi chip that is coming out in this thing in a few months?

If they raise the memory to 1 GB along with an A6 chip, they could have a device that can play Apps nicely. This is such an obvious extension of Apple TV (with your iOS device of choice being the controller) that I think it might behoove Apple to get devices that can handle this out to the populace even if the software upgrade doesn't get pushed right away.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:53 AM   #238
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I wish people would get there facts right. Tim Cook did not specify a new Mac Pro. He said something Pro's would really like. He also said later in 2013.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:58 AM   #239
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I agree. I can't understand all the posts regarding the iPhones "high price."

Compared to what? The 300 dollar android flagships it competes with? If anything, the 200 dollar 16GB iPhone 5 is cheaper than most android phones it competes with on various carriers and the 300 dollar 32GB model is usually the same price as similar android competition. The 64GB model, while pricey at 400 bucks, doesn't really have much competition as most, at least to my knowledge, android phones do not come with 64GB of built in storage.

And lets be real, the true cost of ownership comes with your carrier plan and contract. A 300 dollar phone does cost a lot, but so does paying 70 dollars or more a month for a contract. Yes, the iPhone is a little more expensive unlocked, but the majority of the "middle class", and subsequently the majority of consumers, probably aren't paying for unsubsidized phones on pay-as-you-go smartphone plans.
I would encourage you to travel outside of US or at least read up about how other country sell their smartphone. Your rational work well for Apple in a carrier subsidy model. And Apple dominate in those countries. Unfortunately the rest of the world don't have the level of income that US or Western Europe countries has and they sell their smartphone unlock with bare bone monthly 3G cost. And Apple fails to gain traction in those countries. A $600+ Iphone vs $150- $300 Android is not much of a competition if the income level is a limiting factor. Outside of US, consumer pay $10-15 a month for 3G service (without any phone subsidy)
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 09:59 AM   #240
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I have come to the same conclusion. I'm currently planning on replacing my iMac with a i7 Mac Mini with Fusion Drive. $300 for 16GB RAM? Sorry Apple, I just can't do it
I'm about to splash out on a new 27 imac and have been reading most of the threads on the imac subforum. What are the major issues? I really havn't come across any big complaints other than the delay and inability to upgrade components.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 10:05 AM   #241
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I really hate this whole "cheaper iPhone" theory/idea/project/whatever. I think it's fine the way it is. Besides, there are plans that are more reasonable nowadays and also people are going to slap a case on their phone to change the color of it to what they want. I don't get the idea of making a cheaper more colorful version of the iPhone 5 (other than trying to saturate an already saturated mobile market with the Apple brand).
The point is finding growth areas in a market that is quickly reaching maturity. Today's economy requires companies to constantly be showing growth in order to deem them healthy. Right now, Apple's biggest revenue generator is the iPhone. Expending that brand into other segments (lower cost segments) is a nice way to keep the growth going.

Looking at numbers from IDC/Gartner and others, 2011/2012 were probably the peak years of growth for the smartphone industry. Apple can't keep riding that wave forever and now they need to diversify in order to keep their growth going.

Apple painted themselves in a corner with the iPhone's success in a way. It's been so succesful for them in the last 3-4 years and its generated so much growth for the company that sustaining that growth is now going to get harder and harder as markets reach maturity and the industry settles into more of a competitive race rather than a pure growth race (IE, instead of gaining new users, vendors will be fighting to cannibilize users from each other).
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 10:10 AM   #242
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Why just build yourself a hackintosh?

If Apple doesn't think there's much of a market for big, heavy, old school tower type computer things, they should at least make it a little easier for the few left who do still want one to install OS X on a custom built one.

I'd be happy with a compromise like that.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 10:11 AM   #243
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So let the iPhone 5s come out with minor changes while Samsung shoots for a 5-6 inch screen and a 13 mp camera. Sweet. Apple plays catch up again until the iphone is no longer relevant.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 10:14 AM   #244
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His whole prediction is skewed to 3Q 2013. THIS is why he is not in logistics. Ya gotta spread this around a bit or you're going to trample the supply and delivery chains.

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If Apple doesn't think there's much of a market for big, heavy, old school tower type computer things, they should at least make it a little easier for the few left who do still want one to install OS X on a custom built one.

I'd be happy with a compromise like that.
I don't know... it's pretty damn easy right now to build one. Even with off-the-shelf pre-built PCs.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 10:18 AM   #245
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I'm coming back to this news post at the end of they year just to see if his predictions came true.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 10:19 AM   #246
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what a load of bollocks.

rMBP is pretty damn fine as it is - why would they change the form factor again so quickly?

Oh yeah they want to add an optical drive and a serial port...
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 10:22 AM   #247
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what a load of bollocks.

rMBP is pretty damn fine as it is - why would they change the form factor again so quickly?
Who said anything about changing the form factor ? A "redesign" could simply entail moving a few ports around.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 10:25 AM   #248
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An 8gig iPod Touch is as worthless of a product as it gets. You can't do anything with it. It's not close to being big enough to hold any substantial music and apps.
I use an 8 GB fourth gen. It's good for Spotify and a subset of my music collection that Spotify (which you can cache offline on mobile) doesn't have. I plan to upgrade to a fifth gen this spring because I need Bluetooth 4 for a home automation project, but I can't say it hasn't served me well. Worthless is a clear understatement.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 10:43 AM   #249
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iPad Pro?
Given the complete lack of clarity in his message, a PAdPro wouldn't be out of the question.

I would love to see a stunning update to the MacPro, but given the complete lack of care it had received for 3 years can't see it happening.

People go on how the chipsets don't support TB or USB 3, making excuses for them. When in reality all it would take is a small increase in cost and phone call to Intel to create a workaround. Even if it was something a slap dash as PCI-E TB cards.
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Given the complete lack of clarity in his message, a PAdPro wouldn't be out of the question.
Seems pretty clear to me :

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/06...pro-mac-users/
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"Our Pro customers like you are really important to us," reads part of Cook's e-mail. "Although we didnít have a chance to talk about a new Mac Pro at todayís event, donít worry as weíre working on something really great for later next year."
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