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Old Jan 16, 2013, 02:12 PM   #76
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It's about having options!

Want a removeable battery, expandable storage? Sure, you can have it with Samsung -- but if you don't want to use it, you don't have to

Want to use motion gestures, NFC, S-Beam, etc.? Sure, the phone has it too -- but if you don't want to use it, you don't have to

Want something other than TouchWiz? Sure, the phone lets you load whatever launcher you want, and if you're more adventurous, you can use the easily unlocked bootloader -- but if you don't want to use it, you don't have to

Get the pattern there? Samsung's phones are feature laden and don't have major compromises to get there, a la HTC's offerings. And now that the hardware side of things, Samsung has it locked down (big screen, high resolution, great camera, etc.) it's a battle of features -- and simply put, Samsung has more features and so whatever your needs/desires, they probably have an offering for you.

And Samsung is positioning itself as the competitor to Apple - i.e. they're the guys who are giving you the options to your phone(s) that Apple hasn't.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 02:29 PM   #77
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The absolutely stunning scenery from that part of the country will have given your S3 camera a great workout, did it pass muster? Or did you take a dedicated camera?
To be honest I was quite amazed at how great the pictures came out - all 736 of them! (I get a bit click happy). Panoramic shots were truly superb.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 02:33 PM   #78
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You can print QR codes on plain paper so they're just as reusable.

Anyway it's not a competition, just a suggestion that might save you some money for some tasks...
A suggestion I will try.

Until my NFC tags get here on Thursday!


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To be honest I was quite amazed at how great the pictures came out - all 736 of them! (I get a bit click happy). Panoramic shots were truly superb.
Might I assume the guy on the left was higher up, trying to get the last glimmer of sunlight, with which to solar-charge his iPhone?




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Old Jan 16, 2013, 02:54 PM   #79
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Samsung has been successful because they released the Galaxy S3 and Note II on all carriers.

One X is AT&T only.

Droid DNA is Verizon only.

Razr Maxx HD is Verizon only.

Nexus 4 is AT&T and T-Mobile only.

Not sure about the Xperia Z..

Can't be successful if all your phones are carrier exclusives.
This is seriously what it boils down to.

They may have been small in number, but there were a lot of folks that didn't want to dump $50 a month plans for the original iPhone on AT&T and start paying upwards of $100/month for the same or less services.

Those folks went with the next best thing, even if you considered WebOS and Android to be "subpar" is was what folks went with. Now, users have a bevy of options, all just as good or better for each individual.

Choices. Samsung did the Apple thing, and didn't change the user experience from device to device or carrier to carrier, they kept it as consistent as they could.

After that alone we get to the UI. After Android 2.3 I was sold, and no matter what most say it was then that Android was on par with a lot of what Apple offered in iOS. Now with 4.1 . . . .

Then the specs. Some iPhone fans may balk at specs and make childish claims that it's all Android folk talk about but in the end they DO matter, especially if you use them, or plan on using them in the near future. My wife and I have used Beam consistently since we got our handsets, I picked up some NFC tags and am finding ways to use them at home and at work, and every features marketed in my Note 2 has been used consistently, even down to replying to forum posts while looking up factual info on the web in another window while on a phone call with a note pad open to jot down points.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 02:55 PM   #80
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A suggestion I will try.

Until my NFC tags get here on Thursday!


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NFC tags are pretty damn cool, not gunna lie I probably would've used qr codes first before buying like 20 worth of tags if I had know what they could though!

The apps I've looked at don't seem to be as powerful as the NFC apps, which is a shame
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 03:13 PM   #81
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To be honest I was quite amazed at how great the pictures came out - all 736 of them! (I get a bit click happy). Panoramic shots were truly superb.
Great news, that looks stunning.
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I'm truly puzzled by the obsession with aluminum over plastic. Both are fairly cost effective materials. Both are used at extreme ranges of the cost spectrum, and in both cases the price of the raw materials isn't much. Your phone uses at most a few dollars worth of aluminum when you include the scraps from cutting it down. Even though that adds up over the number of devices Apple ships, it is only an issue if the device margins are low or the company has trouble overcoming development costs. I don't think that is the case for Apple or Samsung. The idea that build quality has anything to do with metal or plastic is just nonsense to me.
If you have felt the plastic of a One X or Lumia you would definitely feel the difference. The frame of the S3 feels very weak and you can pretty much flex the phone if you apply some torque. Even if the cost of aluminum is cheaper, the process of CNC using one solid block is definitely more premium and sturdy than a piece of injected plastic.

I also don't understand the obsession with Samsung. I find it's a lot of marketing because I see posters at carriers' and bus stations. Also, there are people who just don't like Apple and they also believe the negative press Apple gets. You don't know how many less tech literate people come up to me to tell me Apple is going down because Steve Jobs died or their stocks fell 1% which obviously means Apple is going bankrupt in the next few months.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 11:18 PM   #83
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Samsung values removable battery and removable storage more than they do a one piece enclosure.

I myself am not exactly a big fan of this decision, but many people love the S3 for precisely those two reasons.

More power to them.

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If Samsung can hit the S4 and Note 3 out of the park, they're just going to take over everything.

They're more known now than ever and have a larger following than the the following during the S2-to-S3 period.

Could be an insane year for them.
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Old Jan 16, 2013, 11:38 PM   #84
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If you have felt the plastic of a One X or Lumia you would definitely feel the difference. The frame of the S3 feels very weak and you can pretty much flex the phone if you apply some torque. Even if the cost of aluminum is cheaper, the process of CNC using one solid block is definitely more premium and sturdy than a piece of injected plastic.
Those are actually reasonable comparisons. CNC is a more expensive process. It can result in greater strength, and you've actually compared something noticeable in actual use. Excessive flex would annoy me too. I don't personally find Samsung's current phones all that appealing.

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I also don't understand the obsession with Samsung. I find it's a lot of marketing because I see posters at carriers' and bus stations. Also, there are people who just don't like Apple and they also believe the negative press Apple gets. You don't know how many less tech literate people come up to me to tell me Apple is going down because Steve Jobs died or their stocks fell 1% which obviously means Apple is going bankrupt in the next few months.
I've never bought into that kind of hyperbole. Too many people apply Tolkien logic to phones. The marketing doesn't make feel the need to buy a new phone. As far as Apple stock is concerned, some people like to believe that Steve Jobs was the only one that mattered in a company of several thousand employees.
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If you have felt the plastic of a One X or Lumia you would definitely feel the difference. The frame of the S3 feels very weak and you can pretty much flex the phone if you apply some torque. Even if the cost of aluminum is cheaper, the process of CNC using one solid block is definitely more premium and sturdy than a piece of injected plastic.
Oh, you mean "sturdy" as in permanently bending with normal use? Or scratching up like paint falling off a rusting car? The iPhone 5 is anything but sturdy, it is quite weak.
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If you have felt the plastic of a One X or Lumia you would definitely feel the difference. The frame of the S3 feels very weak and you can pretty much flex the phone if you apply some torque.
Samsung provided a durability test video demonstrating how the phone holds up. Part of the video shows the flexing and it's actually pretty amazing IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=dc9c5YFyovU

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Just note you can probably use QR codes for some things and save yourself some money!
I just received my free flip case and NFC tags from Samsung.
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Those are actually reasonable comparisons. CNC is a more expensive process. It can result in greater strength, and you've actually compared something noticeable in actual use. Excessive flex would annoy me too. I don't personally find Samsung's current phones all that appealing.

I've never bought into that kind of hyperbole. Too many people apply Tolkien logic to phones. The marketing doesn't make feel the need to buy a new phone. As far as Apple stock is concerned, some people like to believe that Steve Jobs was the only one that mattered in a company of several thousand employees.
I kind of made it seem like the S3 is all about marketing, but I actually meant the marketing plays a big part of it. It is a good phone in many respects, but after constant reminder of the option in ads, you do start to feel interested. In my city, there are countless ads on papers and large signs in public with the S3 coupled with attractive plans (mostly from startup carriers). To be honest, I actually was about to buy the phone because of all the hype and since so many of my friends switched from iPhone to the S3. But in the end, the build quality, Touchwiz (I'm not that keen on customizing or jailbreaking anymore), and mainly the feel of scrolling and animations on Android deterred me.

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Oh, you mean "sturdy" as in permanently bending with normal use? Or scratching up like paint falling off a rusting car? The iPhone 5 is anything but sturdy, it is quite weak.
Those are anomalies. My iPhone 5 is as straight as an arrow and no anodization has fallen off. I wouldn't call every S3 defective because some have dust under the screens, mushy home buttons, hairline cracks on plastic, or dying circuit boards. This video would say the iPhone is quite sturdy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M5q5TRuAsY
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Old Jan 17, 2013, 01:45 AM   #88
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It's about having options!

Want a removeable battery, expandable storage? Sure, you can have it with Samsung -- but if you don't want to use it, you don't have to

Want to use motion gestures, NFC, S-Beam, etc.? Sure, the phone has it too -- but if you don't want to use it, you don't have to

Want something other than TouchWiz? Sure, the phone lets you load whatever launcher you want, and if you're more adventurous, you can use the easily unlocked bootloader -- but if you don't want to use it, you don't have to

Get the pattern there? Samsung's phones are feature laden and don't have major compromises to get there, a la HTC's offerings. And now that the hardware side of things, Samsung has it locked down (big screen, high resolution, great camera, etc.) it's a battle of features -- and simply put, Samsung has more features and so whatever your needs/desires, they probably have an offering for you.

And Samsung is positioning itself as the competitor to Apple - i.e. they're the guys who are giving you the options to your phone(s) that Apple hasn't.
Well said. And some people think that Samsung is all about specs..

The removable battery is nice to have too. Can bring along a spare battery and replace it if the current one dies out.
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Samsung suckssss, they've peaked in 2012! iPhone 5S and iOS7 will crush Samsung Galaxy S line-ups this year..
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In my city, there are countless ads on papers and large signs in public with the S3 coupled with attractive plans (mostly from startup carriers).
I haven't seen any of these plans. It seems like they do try to be on as many carriers as possible.
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Something has been kind of bothering for the last few months, and that is Samsung's rise in popularity, I just don't get. Samsung devices are horribly built, very ugly, and have crappy displays. Even touchwiz is probably the worse android skin other than LG's. I get that android is pretty darn good and someone picking an android device over the iPhone is fine, but why Samsung when there are so many competent android manufacturers. HTC makes extraordinary handsets, beautifully crafted with high end specs and great displays (HTC One X, Droid DNA). Motorola has great battery life and its handsets feel really solid (RAZR MAXX HD). Sony again has great style and build quality (Xperia). And even LG, they finally made something good with the Nexus 4. But for some reason everyone gravitates towards the samsungs. What am I missing? Is it just because they advertise themselves as the anti-apple so all the apple haters go for them? The only device I can see going with Samsung is the note 2, and that's only because no other manufacturer is making a phone with a display that large.
Woah, use paragraphs at least for once.

Build quality =/= material type.

I've held a S III and I think it's really well built. It doesn't reek of cheep materials. For that, I could direct you to some knock-off Chinese iPads or Galaxy Tab wannabes.
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Don't tell me you actually pay $10 to get those NFC tags to automate trivia tasks?
I paid much less for my NFC card. It's so convenient to look for small coins in the bus, or using a vending machine. Can also use it in McDonalds and many other places.

I can use it in most supermarkts, but would be great if I could pay with cash and just get the return money onto my NFC card. Coins look soooo yesteryear and make the wallet look ugly!
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It's about having options!

Want a removeable battery, expandable storage? Sure, you can have it with Samsung -- but if you don't want to use it, you don't have to

Want to use motion gestures, NFC, S-Beam, etc.? Sure, the phone has it too -- but if you don't want to use it, you don't have to

Want something other than TouchWiz? Sure, the phone lets you load whatever launcher you want, and if you're more adventurous, you can use the easily unlocked bootloader -- but if you don't want to use it, you don't have to

Get the pattern there? Samsung's phones are feature laden and don't have major compromises to get there, a la HTC's offerings. And now that the hardware side of things, Samsung has it locked down (big screen, high resolution, great camera, etc.) it's a battle of features -- and simply put, Samsung has more features and so whatever your needs/desires, they probably have an offering for you.

And Samsung is positioning itself as the competitor to Apple - i.e. they're the guys who are giving you the options to your phone(s) that Apple hasn't.
I think this is one of the best posts I have seen for some time.
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Old Jan 17, 2013, 04:35 AM   #94
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I still dont understand people that have the complete dislike of the S3 because of the material its made out of. I love the feel of the S3 and love the fact that I can buy a variety of flip cases that are held on by replacing the battery door.

Last time I held an iphone it just felt cold due to the material.

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I still dont understand people that have the complete dislike of the S3 because of the material its made out of. I love the feel of the S3 and love the fact that I can buy a variety of flip cases that are held on by replacing the battery door.
I agree. My only idea about why people have an unnatural dislike is that they feel psychologically attached to their brand and/or device. You liking another product to them means you think theirs is inadequate, and therefore they are inadequate.
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Really? I have all credit cards with NFC chips but never use it to pay at grocery stores.
Haha but when apple finally uses nfc and brings out snart tags they will be the worlds most amazing thing right?
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I also love the "cheap plasticy feel" comments concerning the S3, disregarding the fact that the iPhone 3G, and 3G(S) were both made of plastic. Case in point, Samsung makes the best Android phone, and in my opinion they also make the best smartphone as well. Apple needs to catch up before they become the next RIM in the mobile world.
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Another fantastic feature worth mentioning is Direct Call. When I am texting someone and suddenly need to call them I just put my phone up to my ear and it just dials them.
I don't see Direct Call as being any more convenient or useful than just pressing call. It doesn't really add any level of convenience to lift your phone to your ear to call the person you're texting. I can just as easily tap call while I'm on that screen. Direct Call in my opinion, is more of a gimmick just for them to say they have another feature.
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Direct Call in my opinion, is more of a gimmick just for them to say they have another feature.
Yeah just like Facebook integration and the other so called 199 new features.
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Apple has A LOT of self made enemies.
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Apple is behind time with its products. Once it was leading, but now it's trailing.

NFC is a good example, a technology that's out there for a while. But Apple thinks users don't need it. That's were they err. They should supply it and let the user decide what they need and not need.

Apple said - our screen size is the best after long research and you don't need any other screen size. Again, the market has another opinion.

Simple fact is now, many people stop buying simply because the brand is Apple and start to compare. And once they compare Apple will lose.
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I'll bite.

As I own both the iPhone and Galaxy series (formerly 3GS, 4S, and now 5 and formerly the S2 and currently S3) I feel qualified to give my take on this ridiculous post.

First, your contentions about build quality and screen are just stupid. Is the S3 as "sturdy" as the 4S? I would say no. But that doesn't make it a bad phone. You fail to mention the problems the 5 is having...the fact that Apple used substandard aluminum that bends easily (and then made the phone only longer so as to make it MORE easily bent).

You say Samsung phones are "ugly". That's a matter of opinion and I don't agree. We'll leave it at that.

Crappy displays? You've obviously never seen the screen on the S3. Is it as great outside as an IPS display? No. But its clear, bright, and easy to read. And you probably hate the over saturated colors, right? Oh, but you don't mind that Apple over saturated the 5's screen? Hypocrite.

UI is all a matter of choice. You know, that word that Apple hates? Don't like Touchwiz? Then install a custom launcher. Done.
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Apple uses aluminum, therefore aluminum reigns supreme. Why? Because

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Nothing horribly built about my S3. Screen is gorgeous.

Frankly I think the S3 pulls its pants down and takes a big dump on the iPhone 5.
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No. They are the same people who deluded themselves that aluminum was great for the first iPhone. Then plastic was great for the 3G and 3GS. We all know what happened next... another 180.

If Apple made the next iPhone out of dried dog chit it would be the greatest material for a phone ever.



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And Samsung is positioning itself as the competitor to Apple - i.e. they're the guys who are giving you the options to your phone(s) that Apple hasn't.
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Choices. Samsung did the Apple thing, and didn't change the user experience from device to device or carrier to carrier, they kept it as consistent as they could.

After that alone we get to the UI. After Android 2.3 I was sold, and no matter what most say it was then that Android was on par with a lot of what Apple offered in iOS. Now with 4.1 . . . .

Then the specs. Some iPhone fans may balk at specs and make childish claims that it's all Android folk talk about but in the end they DO matter, especially if you use them, or plan on using them in the near future. My wife and I have used Beam consistently since we got our handsets, I picked up some NFC tags and am finding ways to use them at home and at work, and every features marketed in my Note 2 has been used consistently, even down to replying to forum posts while looking up factual info on the web in another window while on a phone call with a note pad open to jot down points.
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Oh, you mean "sturdy" as in permanently bending with normal use? Or scratching up like paint falling off a rusting car? The iPhone 5 is anything but sturdy, it is quite weak.
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Haha but when apple finally uses nfc and brings out snart tags they will be the worlds most amazing thing right?
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I also love the "cheap plasticy feel" comments concerning the S3, disregarding the fact that the iPhone 3G, and 3G(S) were both made of plastic. Case in point, Samsung makes the best Android phone, and in my opinion they also make the best smartphone as well. Apple needs to catch up before they become the next RIM in the mobile world.
Thats funny, I never mentioned Apple and the debate on this thread was suppose to be why Samsung was on top of the android pile instead of the others (ei. HTC, Sony, LG, Motorola, ext.). But people keep bringing up Apple and making the comparison to apple. This to me really shows how well Samsung's marketing is and positioning themselves as the anti-apple brand.

I'm also seeing a lot of "innovation" credit being thrown at Samsung for things that were started by others, much like Apple a couple of years ago. NFC was first used by Nokia in 2007, and the version Samsung is using is propriety and incompatible with other Android devices. The large screen revolution was started by HTC with the Evo in 2010, and the One X had the largest screen when announced until Samsung announced the GS3 a month later and beat it by .1", and now the Droid DNA has a 5". And in the phablet category, Dell was first with the Streak. And there is even a thread lauding about the flexible displays Samsung showed of at CES completely forgetting that Sony has been showing this technology since 2007. Yet Samsung is receiving all the praise because of their strong marketing.

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Wait...so you've never HAD the S3? And you're sitting here talking about how crappy the displays are, how horrible the build is, and how cheap they are??? WTH qualifies you to make those judgements when you've never used one in day-to-day life??? Picking it up for 5 minutes at the closest store doesn't qualify you and playing with your friend's phone for an hour doesn't qualify you. Until you've used one for a month (or nearly 7 as I have), you don't get to go throwing around phrases like "crappy displays" and "cheap build"!

The things that keep bringing me back to my S3 and selling or trading off my backup phones (again, 2 One X's, a One X+, Galaxy Nexus, and Atrix HD) are the things that only the S3 has.

SD card slot...I've got 80 GB of storage on my phone. That's insane. Do I need that much? No...but I've got it if I do.

The speaker...it's the loudest, clearest speaker I've ever used on a phone, any iPhone included. I don't use it for playing music...rather I use it most of the time when I'm on a call. The ear piece speaker is loud and clear as well, but I like going hands-free (and I hate Bluetooth headsets).

The screen and it's size...it's a GREAT screen and once you've used a screen this big, it's almost impossible to go back to a smaller screen.

The replaceable battery...while this obviously isn't an issue for you (as stated earlier), for others it is. I can use my phone like a mad man and when the battery starts to run out (may I remind you that's after 5 HOURS of screen on time) I can just pop in another battery and I'm good to go. Or, I can pop in my Seidio extended battery and get 7-8 hours of screen on time from the get-go.

The openness of Samsung phones...it's pretty obvious they're more concerned about what their users want than any other phone OEM. They don't mind people unlocking their bootloaders and running whatever they want. True, the hacking portion of the owners group is tiny in comparison to the overall number of owners, but the fact that they're ok with people hacking away at their phones impresses me.

The camera...again, I've got the iPhone 5 as well and the camera on the S3 is just as good as the 5's camera. Every other phone I've tried that's supposedly had a great camera has paled in comparison to these two. The One X camera is crap compared to the S3 and iPhone 5 (don't let One X owners tell you any differently). The One X+ camera is better than the One X, but it's still awful compared to the S3. And the Lumia 920, which I tried for a week or two, the camera is one of the biggest things Nokia pushed. They said it was an amazing camera. Wrong. It was worse than my Atrix HD camera, which is notoriously bad. Supposedly the Portico update for the 920 has fixed most of the problems, but I couldn't stand it long enough to wait for the update. It was THAT bad.

You wanted actual features that make the S3 (or Samsung) come out on top...there you go. From an actual user.
Things such as the display and the feel of the device are things you can judge just by picking it up and looking at it, I dont need to own the phone for a week to figure out it feels flimsy, creaky, and has an over saturated screen. There are other things that you do need to own the phone for a while to comment on, I agree, things like battery life, reception, and performance.

All the features you mention (large screen, removable battery, sd card slot) are avilable on other handsets as well. So why do a majority of the people pick a Samsung over those phones?

I had the One X for over six months and took several pictures and they all look just as good as the pictures I take on my iPhone 5. And I have seen pictures taken with the 920, and in low light they look incredible, but its during the day that the shots look kind of soft.

The quality of the loud speaker might be more opinionated, but lets just say that it does have the best loud speaker, would this feature alone make it as popular as it has been? I don't think so.

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Popout video does not stutter or skip ever. Smart stay only turns on for a few seconds when your phone is about to lock due to inactivity. If you glance away at that moment it will shut off.

Both are honestly awesome features that I use all the time. One of the reasons I went back to the official Touchwiz rom, that and it seems to be snappier compared to Cyanogen Mod.

Another fantastic feature worth mentioning is Direct Call. When I am texting someone and suddenly need to call them I just put my phone up to my ear and it just dials them.
Those seem really cool, I like the idea of pop up video and direct call. Not sure I would want to give up stock Android for those features, but definitely something cool and innovative. Maybe its these little things when added together nudge people over Samsung?

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Erm, yes they do! And thats speaking from experience! I have a spare in my work bag and a spare in my car - So theres always a spare battery nearby if I need one. Saves caryying around an iphone charger like a see a lot of people do
No question that having a removable battery is a big feature to alot of users, but Samsung isnt the only one that offers that feature, and users that need a removable battery are still in the minority (though its probably the largest minority, just above the sd card people), most people never open their battery cover. As important as removable batteries are to alot of people, I dont see how this feature would make Samsung as popular as it is especially since it is not an exclusive feature.

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Woah, use paragraphs at least for once.

Build quality =/= material type.

I've held a S III and I think it's really well built. It doesn't reek of cheep materials. For that, I could direct you to some knock-off Chinese iPads or Galaxy Tab wannabes.
You're right, it could be worse. But it could also be a lot better. I don't think materials is the problem, while I prefer metal (I have ever since the original RAZR), I have no problem with plastic. Nokia, Sony, and HTC all make great feeling handsets using plastic (don't let "polycarbonate" fool you, its still plastic). Its just the flexibility, creakiness, and shine on the plastic Samsung uses that I really hate.

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Fair request! I rephrase: it is why Samsung, and why not HTC, Sony, Nokia etc....?

Samsung's phones is out and available. Have the latest OS, are fast, have a nice screen size, they have most of the latest features, are priced withing the expected range, they get mainly positive REAL news, they get the 'underdog' support. And admit it, the Note 2 is unique and has no competition!

HTC? They are rarely on the radar these days. Sony, struggling, will they be there tomorrow?

Nokia seems risky, WP is great, but has no apps (really, who can survive with only 200,000 apps?). We love new, but don't want to be the first one to buy. You first...

What I see in my local press, Samsung appears HEAVILY in the newspapers (ads), Apple almost never appears. Other brands rarely appear. Samsung gets 70% of the newspaper placements (either direct or via network providers).
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Credit Samsung for three things. One, bombarding the States with ads of all kinds (print, TV, billboards, etc). Two, Providing the option for replacing your battery and making a phone that now has competitors scrambling to compete (the Note series). Personally I cannot stomach Amoled displays but clearly many others can. If the Note II had an IPS display I would ditch my iPhone 5 for it. But alas it doesn't and Samsung is going to continue using Amoled's moving forward. Three, the devices are available on all 4 major carriers. The only phone I can think of that exploded in the past 5 years that was available on one carrier exclusively is the iPhone with AT&T.
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Because Samsung has the best marketing out of all of them. They marketed the hell out of their Galaxy line over several iterations until it became a brand and now most people who want an Android Phone will buy something with the word Galaxy in it. All the other companies did stuff like call their flagship phones "Droid" until the word Droid became a generic term that didn't mean anything.
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I actually think the afore mentioned motion control is embarassing. they don't get the concept of gestures representing something in the real world. Samsung has seemingly random gestures that are plain silly. Really, tilt to zoom? Like that's intuitive.

But I will give them credit, they're trying everything. Reminds me of the scene in Star Trek when Nemo says 'fire everything!'. There are tons of features on the S3, many are lame, but there's enough there to find something new and useful.
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Mostly, it's about marketing muscle. HTC's One X is every bit as good as the Samsung S3 but Samsung worked hard at getting real, actual demo models you could play with into the stores (as opposed to the mockups you see in most UK phone shops). I actually had the One X in mind when I went for my upgrade but it was the Samsung I could actually play with in store (and ensure it passed my tap test - the test for that special gorilla glass feel). I still have a preference for Sense though.

As to the OP's diatribe on TouchWiz, I'm guessing someone hasn't played with TouchWiz on Jelly Bean......
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I kind of made it seem like the S3 is all about marketing, but I actually meant the marketing plays a big part of it. It is a good phone in many respects, but after constant reminder of the option in ads, you do start to feel interested. In my city, there are countless ads on papers and large signs in public with the S3 coupled with attractive plans (mostly from startup carriers). To be honest, I actually was about to buy the phone because of all the hype and since so many of my friends switched from iPhone to the S3. But in the end, the build quality, Touchwiz (I'm not that keen on customizing or jailbreaking anymore), and mainly the feel of scrolling and animations on Android deterred me.]
I think you guys hit the nail on the head, having the one handset across multiple carriers and throwing as many features into the handset as possible, while having a really strong marketing campaign that feeds on people's emotional response to "rebel" against apple.
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