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What you're really seeing here is a popular meme doing the rounds. No quantitative stuff. No hard data.

We have hard data in the fact that Siri's iOS6's improvements amount to hooking up a couple new data services (sports scores, wow). And we're seeing a stagnation in iOS itself. We're seeing that iCloud is a rickety mess. We're seeing that Google is already leapfrogging Siri in the breadth of content it consumes. Apple seems to be more concerned about content deals than about innovating on data. Because if they were serious about Big Data, they would be trying to collect and own it, not license mediocre data sources.

Tim said that Siri is a long-term project for Apple, but I don't see the laser focus on it. It feels more like another checkbox on the feature list.
 
Thank goodness they are taking care of this before they update the MacPro.
Gotta have priorities.

1. You don't know if this is being done before any Mac Pro update. 2. Do you really want dialog specialists doing hardware & software design?
 
Fahrenheit is ****ing stupid and you all should start using Celsius like the rest of the world does. It's much easier and you won't have such problems (which is HUGE) ... not it isn't, just kiddin'.

I/we do use Celsius. I was giving an example of one of the many cockups.

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1. You don't know if this is being done before any Mac Pro update. 2. Do you really want dialog specialists doing hardware & software design?

Might want to read his post again, this time with your sarcasm detector turned on ;)
 
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Hey. How about making her voice LESS annoying and rude. The google voice for maps is much more pleasant and doesn't talk like a robot.

:rolleyes:

Shoe on the other foot - Google voice for maps in the UK is absolutely terrible compared to the voice used for Siri.

I tried using Google Maps Navigation to get me to a destination in London but the voice was either too quiet or too loud during one instruction, it would decrease the volume of playing music every few seconds for no reason whatsoever.

Terminated the google app, asked Siri how to get to my destination and the difference is night and day.
 
Companies can do more than one thing at once. Governments can support international development while working on domestic poverty and groups of experts can and must support various research and development projects simultaneously or they'll never get anywhere! QUOTE]

Well said. I think that this should be the new confirmation dialogue box that appears before anyone posts to MacRumors.
 
I get the presentation argument someone made much further up this thread. My issue is that Siri's voice recognition still isn't that great. A lof time she gets what you ask wrong. Sometimes you have to repeat things like 3 or 4 times before she understands. At that point, it would have been faster just to do whatever the task was myself. When she is working great, it definitely a useful feature but she doesn't understand things nearly as well as Google's app does.

Maybe they are working hard to fix that and we're just not seeing stuff about it, but for now I'd rather that part of Siri get fixed before expanding her dialog.
 
Why not spend time and money on innovation instead of gimmicks? Siri itself isn't a gimmick, but trying to expand its 'witty' personality is. Market analysts (and I don't mean DigiTimes...) are saying almost daily that Apple is starting to lack in innovation and has fallen into an iterative rut of just applying minor tweaks to each of their product lines.

It may be a reach, but I kind of compare it to the story of the USPTO wanting to close its doors in the 19th century because everything had already been invented. Apple cannot rest on the laurels of its current product lines and must continue inventing and innovating to stay relevant.

[Edit: I feel I need to qualify this response. My problem is that it feels like it's been a while since Apple wowed us with a bit of true innovation. Yes, they certainly lead the industry in innovation, but it just seems like with every new report on Apple's current goings-on, that we've started to see stagnation. Perhaps it's a problem with the consumers and fans expecting too much from a company. And perhaps it's a problem with a company having conditioned a marketplace to expect such great things on such a rapid cycle. Maybe I and the rest of the world just need to step back and stop to smell the roses...]


When I think about it, Apple came out with the iPod in 2001. It was a groundbreaking innovation, although it didn't really start to gain traction as such until Gen 2, in 2002 came out with Windows support.

Then, if you take away the switch to Intel, Apple didn't come out with their next innovative, groundbreaking product for over 5 years, when they introduced the iPhone.

The next groundbreaking innovation was 3 years later, when the iPad came out. And follow-up information has shown us that the iPad was in development for years before the iPhone.

So I wonder why everyone considers Apple as failing because they haven't release any more "groundbreaking" products since iPad?

It's only been a little under three years. I remember Jobs saying in more than one of his keynotes that "a company is lucky if they get to be involved with one revolutionary product." Apple's had at least three (arguably more) in about 11-12 years.
 
Zunjine:

I bet you never worked at a real place with a real job before, and just knowing that your perspective is narrow minded, I wouldn't point out what you've been missing from the real world one to ten all together,

but I must to say one thing about the real world, there's priority in every tasks they have no matter how many different work in how many different type of work where they are involved in. There are always one or two things should be top of the list that the places or the government must pursuit that these things to be done prior to the other tasks they have.

For instance, the government don't need to support other country while they have serious problem domestically on their hands.

No one really would feel this way if their mother county is doing fine, but the problem is problem on their hands is bigger and unstoppable and that is the one thing they should resolve first instead of looking out for other problems internationally.

The only reason why the government care about other problem is related to the diplomacy, not for the humanity, if they really care about the people with that matter, the group of poor people, who will be living on a paradise.

Think yourself so smart by bringing up such as delicate subject, aren't you? People who feel that way is normal and they don't need to have your lack of understanding because that's how the people address about the problem they have, and if ever Apple or government abide by the prioritizing the problems what they have, people don't have to be reacted this way and gotten angry.

Please shake off your childish perspective before it gets you, and for the sake of arguments in the future, you should learn how to address how you feelings towards to the other opinion in an adequate way without worshiping only your idea is suitable for the society and pretend to be you are far better than people who feel that way.

You are so obtuse!


My government should stop giving money to poor people in x country because we have people here who are poor!



I don't understand the thinking of people who say things like this:

Apple should fix the Wifi connection problem before worrying about the scuffing issue!

Or,

My government should stop giving money to poor people in x country because we have people here who are poor!

Or,

Scientists should sort out the ozone layer instead of worrying about the Higgs Boson!

Do people think that companies, governments and various fields of specialists are only capable of working on one problem at a time? Does the fact that something is being done make some other thing being done less likely?

Apple IS working on improving the speed/reliability/functionality of basically everything all the time. But a team of people can only be so large before the improvement in man-power is outweighed by the transaction costs - too many cooks are said to have a deleterious effect on the quality of broth. And do we suppose that the same people who are working on improving Siri's "personality" would be any use if re-deployed to the maps team? Or if asked to assist in beefing up Apple's data-centres? Really?!

Yes - Apple needs to make Siri faster. There is nothing in this story which suggests that they are not. All we can see here is that they also have people working on other things... shocking!

Companies can do more than one thing at once. Governments can support international development while working on domestic poverty and groups of experts can and must support various research and development projects simultaneously or they'll never get anywhere!

Of course, I'm wasting my time.
 
I don't understand the thinking of people who say things like this:

Apple should fix the Wifi connection problem before worrying about the scuffing issue!

Or,

My government should stop giving money to poor people in x country because we have people here who are poor!

Or,

Scientists should sort out the ozone layer instead of worrying about the Higgs Boson!

Do people think that companies, governments and various fields of specialists are only capable of working on one problem at a time? Does the fact that something is being done make some other thing being done less likely?

Apple IS working on improving the speed/reliability/functionality of basically everything all the time. But a team of people can only be so large before the improvement in man-power is outweighed by the transaction costs - too many cooks are said to have a deleterious effect on the quality of broth. And do we suppose that the same people who are working on improving Siri's "personality" would be any use if re-deployed to the maps team? Or if asked to assist in beefing up Apple's data-centres? Really?!

Yes - Apple needs to make Siri faster. There is nothing in this story which suggests that they are not. All we can see here is that they also have people working on other things... shocking!

Companies can do more than one thing at once. Governments can support international development while working on domestic poverty and groups of experts can and must support various research and development projects simultaneously or they'll never get anywhere!

Of course, I'm wasting my time.

Bravo sir, Bravo.

You took the words out of my mouth. An ENOURMOUS pet pieve of mine is just that. The whole one-track the world can only apparently do one thing at a time situation.

What it really translates to is;

"I want all of the worlds resources to be devoted solely to what bothers me, and this particular issue doesn't bother me, compared to that particular issue"
 
2nd Thoughts...

After a brief fling with SIRI and suffered her condescending voice and attitude, I have lost interest in any advantages of polygamy.
 
Siri is the most useless Apple feature ever devised- a gimmick. I've almost bashed my phone against the pavement or a wall I can't say how many times due to Siri's f'ups.
It simply does not work on the outside in NYC and rarely indoors as well.
 
Siri is the most useless Apple feature ever devised- a gimmick. I've almost bashed my phone against the pavement or a wall I can't say how many times due to Siri's f'ups.
It simply does not work on the outside in NYC and rarely indoors as well.

I don't think Siri is the most useless, I think that's entirely subjective. For example, I'm a polar opposite to you. I live in a rural area, so apps like Yelp and features like allowing it to make a reservation, or apps like Passbook, are utterly useless. There is nowhere out here to use such a feature, perhaps one or two in downtown St.Louis, but that's well over an hour away.

However, because I don't have the network saturation you do in NYC, Siri works flawlessly everywhere. Low ping and high throughput (even on HSPA+, heck, my '3G only' iPhone 4 got 8-10mbps consistently all the time) helps with that.

I could do without her though. I mean, I upgraded to the 5, but she wasn't going to get me to the upgrade to the 4S. I could take it or leave it. Siri is a fun little nick-nack to have. Saves a second now and then to say "Take me home" instead of pulling up a GPS app and tapping on the home icon. If siri could interact with more apps though, I think it'd be a killer feature.
 
Nor normally so cynical with respect to Apple but perhaps they could hire some backend engineers to make Siri respond faster? Google Voice takes less than a second most of the time. Siri takes 2-3 seconds just to recognise your voice.

This is true.

When selling phones people ask what's the difference and I let them play with Google now and siri and they always say Google is faster
 
Me: Open the pod bay doors, Dave.

Siri: Would you like me to search the web for "only the pod race bores, bathe."

That seems pretty witty to me, managing to disparage not one but two scifi films, and suggesting I spend too much time on the sofa. Priceless! Also, useless.
 
Although it can be fun, I'd rather see Apple concentrate on adding functionalities to Siri (like "Find all e-mails from John") than coming up with "witty" answers like this one:

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Zunjine:

I bet you never worked at a real place with a real job before, and just knowing that your perspective is narrow minded, I wouldn't point out what you've been missing from the real world one to ten all together,

but I must to say one thing about the real world, there's priority in every tasks they have no matter how many different work in how many different type of work where they are involved in. There are always one or two things should be top of the list that the places or the government must pursuit that these things to be done prior to the other tasks they have.

For instance, the government don't need to support other country while they have serious problem domestically on their hands.

No one really would feel this way if their mother county is doing fine, but the problem is problem on their hands is bigger and unstoppable and that is the one thing they should resolve first instead of looking out for other problems internationally.

The only reason why the government care about other problem is related to the diplomacy, not for the humanity, if they really care about the people with that matter, the group of poor people, who will be living on a paradise.

Think yourself so smart by bringing up such as delicate subject, aren't you? People who feel that way is normal and they don't need to have your lack of understanding because that's how the people address about the problem they have, and if ever Apple or government abide by the prioritizing the problems what they have, people don't have to be reacted this way and gotten angry.

Please shake off your childish perspective before it gets you, and for the sake of arguments in the future, you should learn how to address how you feelings towards to the other opinion in an adequate way without worshiping only your idea is suitable for the society and pretend to be you are far better than people who feel that way.

You are so obtuse!

Nice way to derail the topic. He said that companies do more than one thing. That's the point. Also, because Apple has hired Siri writers, that makes that the #1 Priority? Please show me where Siri humor is at the top of the list?
 
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