Do you think Apple is concerned about the rumours of the Galaxy S4?

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Originally Posted by unobtainium

Yeah you're right, I'll have to rephrase. S Beam would be useless for me since most of my friends have iPhones. But I still don't see the great need for beaming 1.5gb movie files between mobile phones...were you pirating a movie or something? I just don't see the scenario coming up very often.

It was a HD wedding video. On the go this makes sense. You don't waste any mobile data uploading it to some cloud service just to send something to someone that's already next to you. It's the fastest and easiest way to transfer.

Yes, it might be as useless for an iPhone user as iMessage is useless for Android users. That's not the point. A good feature is a good feature.

[jstnlzr]

I dont think they should be.

[kevinof]

Spot on. I took a video of my son skate boarding yesterday and afterwards he asked me to send him the video - we just used s-beam and bumped the phones together and bingo , he had a copy.

Originally Posted by LIVEFRMNYC

I...

Yes, it might be as useless for an iPhone user as iMessage is useless for Android users. That's not the point. A good feature is a good feature.

[Frankied22]

Google Now blows away Siri and is innovative. I'm excited to see what android 5.0 brings at Google I/O. Apple has a lot to change in iOS 7 to compete.

[The Game 161]

Originally Posted by Frankied22

Google Now blows away Siri and is innovative. I'm excited to see what android 5.0 brings at Google I/O. Apple has a lot to change in iOS 7 to compete.

How does S voice compare with google now?

[Tinmania]

Originally Posted by The Game 161

How does S voice compare with google now?

I have both on my Note 2. Google Now is more sterile but it is great for searches. It cannot do much though as far as interacting with phone functions, other than setting alarms and crudely setting appointments (I was used to Siri).

To me S Voice is better at letting me know about missed texts, setting reminders, etc. It is more conversational than Google Now. But the voice, to me, is kinda creepy.

On my Note 2 I use them both, depending on what I need to do. Ideally Google Now would do it all. But it is not there yet.


Michael

[The Game 161]

Originally Posted by Tinmania

I have both on my Note 2. Google Now is more sterile but it is great for searches. It cannot do much though as far as interacting with phone functions, other than setting alarms and crudely setting appointments (I was used to Siri).

To me S Voice is better at letting me know about missed texts, setting reminders, etc. It is more conversational than Google Now. But the voice, to me, is kinda creepy.

On my Note 2 I use them both, depending on what I need to do. Ideally Google Now would do it all. But it is not there yet.


Michael

Can S voice open apps for you like on Siri?

[TheHateMachine]

Originally Posted by The Game 161

Can S voice open apps for you like on Siri?

Both S Voice and Google Now will do that.

[Tinmania]

Originally Posted by The Game 161

Can S voice open apps for you like on Siri?

Yes. So does Google Now. All of them stumble but for me Siri stumbles the most followed by Google now. S voice seems to work best at that for me.



Mike

[The Game 161]

Interesting so Siri might not be the best out of the 3 Afterall then?

[The iGentleman]

Originally Posted by iHailCarlo

NO, I dont think Apple will underestimate the device but i dont think they are running scared either. All these high powered specs and the like start to have a diminishing return dont you think, how many cores? how much ram? higher clock speed? What does it take to have a smooth experience before its just wasted? Do you really multitask that much on a phone?

If there is a diminishing return, it would be with the iPhone. With the iPhone 5, they once again increased the power under the hood, but due to the OS' lack of sophistication, the end user doesn't see any real benefit from it. On the other hand, with Android there is a tangible benefit as the OS is doing a lot more, and thus is advantageous to have the additional horsepower.

Originally Posted by unobtainium

The competition isn't innovating at all. What have Samsung or Google "innovated" in the past couple of years? Larger screens are not innovative or creative, they're just bigger screens. I'm hard pressed to think of any "innovation" from Apple OR any of its competitors in quite a while. Maybe retina displays? I don't even think that really counts as innovation though.

S-Pen
S-Beam
Face Unlock
Smart Stay
Google Voice
Google Now
Google's Cloud services (which has been a part of Android for years)
NFC based mobile payments
NFC data transfers
NFC based device automation
Data Usage management
Wifi Direct
Photosphere


By the way, the "retina display" wasn't an innovation as there had already been other devices out with a higher ppi.

Originally Posted by unobtainium

Innovations change the way we live and work. By my definition, multitouch was a game changing innovation. The iphone being the first smartphone with a multitouch screen that made up nearly the entire surface of the device was a game changing innovation. I think "innovation" should refer to something that is truly new. Name one innovation from Samsung Android handsets. I can't think of any. Bigger, faster, more customizable - that's all well and good but I don't believe it's innovation per se.

See the above lists...

[matttye]

Originally Posted by Tinmania

Yes. So does Google Now. All of them stumble but for me Siri stumbles the most followed by Google now. S voice seems to work best at that for me.



Mike

S voice struggled with names for me, and it's the slowest of the three by far. I ended up pulling over and making calls manually rather than wait for that POS to respond

[Irishman]

Originally Posted by The Game 161

To be honest unless apple do add more features it is tempting to move and get the next galaxy phone think others feel the same. Just hope apple realise this and don't keep getting by on pure rep

Why? What feature are you missing in your life right now?

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Originally Posted by maxosx

As long as Apples sales volume remains high, they will continue to remain conservative. However they've kept this look for so long it could be said they're milking it for profit. At some point the well worn slogan "Apple doesn't compete on specs" will be uncovered as the lie it is. Witness the fact that "retina" is touted as the advantage no one else has. Yet the counter attack in the works by several other companies is to simply use a display of 400 or higher. This year will be the year Apple's retina will no longer be "magical".

And then, you'll finally be happy?

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Originally Posted by KnightMan

Meh, it's your choice to buy whatever you want. But your post came across the same way to me. You were glowing over the fact you use your phone more now than customizing it, so you definitely were implying that it was a negative that you spent more time customizing it than actually using it. Or else why would you even mention that you now use your phone more than customizing it. Yes you were making a point. But let's be reasonable with our points. Customizing and the time one CHOOSES to customize their Android phone is in one's complete control. The TIME one DECIDES to spend/waste customizing one's phone should never be mentioned the way you have when it is in complete control of the user.

Android is for tinkerers.

iOS is for everyone else.

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Originally Posted by SlCKB0Y

What do you consider "innovation" to be then

The original iPhone was full of innovations:

A mobile web browsing experience that showed you THE web, not a dumbed-down mobile VERSION of the web. It replaced what was then 2.5" screens and scaled it up to make it browsable and readable. Apple's decision not to employ Flash (tremendous battery hog) ended up hastening its death in mobile OSes and devices. Visual voicemail was a HUGE plus, as was a unified interface for everything. It didn't look like a kludgy mobile phone OS. It looked intentional, slick, and easy to use. Contacts that were usable was a BIG plus.

[Tinmania]

Originally Posted by The Game 161

Interesting so Siri might not be the best out of the 3 Afterall then?

I think Siri is best at sending texts and making calls. S Voice is a bit more cumbersome for that. But for me and launching apps S Voice works better than Siri.

I do like that S voice can do a lot more than Google Now. But I use both and glad I have both. With both I don't miss Siri. I don't miss Siri too much anyway as it often took forever when not on Wifi and when it doesn't work it wasted my time. But I did use Siri for setting reminders.




Michael

[Rogifan]

So is this a thread to discuss the forthcoming S4 or to just bash Apple? I thought the point of this form was for people to discuss alternatives to iOS devices not bash Apple or people who chose to purchase Apple products.

[Tinmania]

Originally Posted by Rogifan

So is this a thread to discuss the forthcoming S4 or to just bash Apple? I thought the point of this form was for people to discuss alternatives to iOS devices not bash Apple or people who chose to purchase Apple products.

Yea that's what is happening.

You don't need to get emotionally attached to a company you know.



Michael

[akdj]

Originally Posted by cambookpro

I don't think so. Apple has never really played the specs game, and I don't think they'll start now. Of course, it may add increased pressure on their release schedules etc, but I don't think they'll change what's in the next iPhone.

Interesting. Especially considering the 'speed' of the A6 and it's associated GPU.
It crushes the competition...if its only specifications you're concerned with, the i5 and iPad 4 are currently top of the heap...and will be until Tegra 4 units are in the pipeline. Keep in mind, iOS doesn't have that deep layer of sludge (Java) to dig through any time your want to do ANYthing on your phone.

Originally Posted by SomeDudeAsking

I think that Apple still has a smug attitude and will get steam rollered this year by the Galaxy S4. Apple corporate culture is that everything they design is "perfect" and they are slow to adapt to rapid changes. Witness the large number of defectors from this forum, there has been a cacophony of posts about dissatisfaction with Apple and people switching to Android or will be switching when the Galaxy S4 comes out.

Witness the continued success of the iPhone. Each iteration outsells the last. 5 million on opening weekend? Possibly 50mil in 4th quarter? Who gives a flying F about the 'defectors' on this forum...a true microcosm of the actual buying public. In the US, iPhone is the number one selling smartphone right now. The funny thing is---this 'cacophony of dissatisfication' you speak of, more often than not come right back to iOS after experiencing Android. I'm one of them. As an iPhone owner since day one...I've also purchased the Xoom, SII, SIII---and brought the SIII back 28 days in to exchange for the 'OG' Note...a handset I can't get rid of quick enough....as I STILL WAIT for a Jellybean update. WTF?

Originally Posted by SomeDudeAsking

I predict the iPhone 5S will just be another minor update and cause more people to defect. Users have come to expect more out of their $700 purchase and a small screen and stagnant iOS is not cutting it anymore. Times have changed and people have changed. However, Apple can't see the changing tide and even former Apple execs like Steve Wozniak say the competition is innovating more than Apple is.

There's a reason Woz isn't with the company. The 5s a minor update? Are you implying the '5' was minor? If so, it truly shows how incredibly ignorant you are to engineering...R&D and electronic design. Users vote with their wallet. The iPhone 5, from ALL indicators is not just the fastest selling iPhone of ALL time, but the fastest, highest quantity selling smartphone in history! The iPhone itself is worth more than Microsoft and Google together! The funny thing is...while Samsung outsells actual devices (collectively)---Apple is making all the cash! You so called tech pundits on MR really make me laugh...and hopefully your appreciation for Android will start to thin the herd at MR sooner than later. As an Android owner myself, I'm well aware of the stagnant, inactive forums available for your devices....hence the need to plague an Apple forum

Originally Posted by dinesh29888

We all are used to the small screen size of apple but once you get used to the Note 2 screen size then you won't look back & then your next upgrade will be of the same size or much bigger. I have heard people saying note 2 is really huge are mostly apple fans including me ...

I have the Note. I also own the iPhone 5. My Note rarely sees the light of day anymore. Not only is it ridiculously big for a cell phone, the battery is absolutely aweful, browsing speed on LTE is a joke....regardless of browser (Dolphin, Chrome, FF, stock---they're all slow as molasses). I carry an iPad and use it when a bigger screen is desired. I've owned the Note since last March. I put three months into it of constant use. It never, ever felt as fluid as iOS. Even with the ICS update. The GSIII which I returned for the Note was even 'stickier' and I'm clueless how others find it to be a decent phone! Yuck!

Originally Posted by maxosx

As long as Apples sales volume remains high, they will continue to remain conservative. However they've kept this look for so long it could be said they're milking it for profit. At some point the well worn slogan "Apple doesn't compete on specs" will be uncovered as the lie it is. Witness the fact that "retina" is touted as the advantage no one else has. Yet the counter attack in the works by several other companies is to simply use a display of 400 or higher. This year will be the year Apple's retina will no longer be "magical".

Wow! Took them what...almost three years to 'catch up'? Didn't see that coming. I think it's been three years since Apple marketed retina as magical...in the phone. Meanwhile, they've now moved to retina (HiDPI) displays in their laptops. This IS magical! I'm typing this on a 15" retina MBP. Absolutely Amazing!

Originally Posted by matttye

If their sales have taken a hit (as many suspect due to the absence of sales figures being released), then they will be worried I think and might change tack.

If their sales are as good as usual, I don't think they'll bat an eyelid.

Apple NEVER releases sales figures before quarterlies. Are you new to Apple? From EVERY prediction I've seen, the iPhone 5 is the fastest selling iOS device in history...and YES! They're a business...ultimately a successful business is based on increased sales...no need to bat an eyelid if you're still number 1!

Originally Posted by matttye

Galaxy S3 supports MicroSDXC (64GB only at present but the standard supports up to 2TB) and MicroSDHC (2-32GB), and most likely plain old MicroSD (< 2GB).

You can buy UHS-1 cards ('ultra high speed 1') but as far as I know it doesn't fully support the speeds, so you might be wasting your money.

Don't let that fool ya though. I've found the micro SD card in both my wife n I's Notes to be next to worthless. You can't put apps on it...it's a pain in the ass to move anything from internal to the SD card and I have had to reformat the cards three different times for some silly reason. The NAND, on board storage is where your apps will reside so buy and pick your storage wisely. Don't rely on the SD storage for anything other than media (ymmv and I may be doing something wrong....but in the beginning I spent an entire weekend trying to figure this out). The 64gb phones have always held a special place in my heart. Especially considering the size of some of these new Apps...up to 2GB. Magazines are sometimes as big as 300mb. Movies, a GB+!

Originally Posted by blairh

No I don't think Apple is concerned per se. However I think the 5 was playing it too safe while the competition has moved forward at a faster pace with respect to hardware. I do believe that a lot of potential iPhone 5 buyers in 2013 will instead opt for a 5" Android device. The massive success of the SIII is proof that there is a strong market for smartphones in the 4.7"-5" range. The success of the Note II is proof that there is a growing market for 5.3"+ screens too.

I wouldn't declare the Note a success. SIII, yes. For Samsung anyway. 30 million units in a year is good....but Apple is looking at 50mil iPhone 5s in three months (2 if you consider availability factors). I think the original Note was around 5mil. Note 2 seems to be selling better, quicker. But no where near the levels of the SIII or iPhone 4/4s/5

Originally Posted by siiip5

Really? You think the iPad Mini is a profit leading product?

Yes. Absolutely. Again, pure ignorance if you think otherwise. It came out November 2, right? Still hard to get one...with one week lead times direct from Apple almost three months post release. And it's more than 50% more than it's only competition. KFire/Nex7

Originally Posted by siiip5

You mean like an iphone 4, which is free or an iphone 4S, which is only $99?

In 4 days I hope Tim Cook reports specific sales numbers for the iphone 5 and ipad mini. If he doesn't, and only gives us a "combined" sales number and YoY percentage growth, then we will know that neither product has sold particularly well.

Lol. You must be new to Apple too.
Apple doesn't warehouse their gear. Tim has and was hires to be the mastermind of supply chain management. It's always cool getting a new iOS device. Turn it on and it's got 80-90% charge on it. They don't sit. Read my replies above about its popularity and availability. Apple always talks specific unit numbers. It's Samsung that does NOT, nor ever has.

Originally Posted by KnightMan

Meh, it's your choice to buy whatever you want. But your post came across the same way to me. You were glowing over the fact you use your phone more now than customizing it, so you definitely were implying that it was a negative that you spent more time customizing it than actually using it. Or else why would you even mention that you now use your phone more than customizing it. Yes you were making a point. But let's be reasonable with our points. Customizing and the time one CHOOSES to customize their Android phone is in one's complete control. The TIME one DECIDES to spend/waste customizing one's phone should never be mentioned the way you have when it is in complete control of the user.

Who made you the forum police? His point was well made, easy to read, and justified. I feel EXACTLY THE SAME! Part of the allure to an iOS use to jump ship is the customization of Android. That. Gets. Old. FAST! From there, there's nothing else....it becomes...get this...a plain ol' smartphone. Nothing more. Nothing less...basically nothing different than an iPhone

It kinda makes me wonder what you guys are doing for your desktop or laptop OS. Win XP was around 12 years. Looked the same! OSx the same. With refinements and updates, they became more stable, more efficient, and added little doo-dads...but nothing over the top. An OS is an OS. A springboard to launch the software necessary to make your device more than a phone/texting device. When it comes to software and apps...iOS just can't be beat. Talk with ANY Developer. That's where the money is. iOS customers buy and use apps. Android customers, not so much....must be because they're still ***** with their customization of their phone? Not so sure what the deal is....but those web numbers at Christmas were staggering, especially considering Android's market share lead. Apple completely OWNS online impressions, online shopping and photo sharing....Apple customers have money. Hence, the developers follow. Google makes nothing in the Play Store. I feel like that's a problem. Google should clamp down a bit. Take ownership of Android. Force the carriers hand and improve the delay time for updates. Eliminate the Java layer that mandates big grunt from the engine just to perform, and entice developers with a decent SDK.

Originally Posted by SomeDudeAsking

Ahhhh, if you haven't noticed, smart phones have neither changed the way we live or work. I still do the same things before modern smartphones were around. I still have two legs and two arms and two eyes and use a computer like before.

Your definition of "innovation" is absurd. There is innovation going on all the time. What do you think all the new technologies that go into smartphone components that Samsung creates are? Chicken?

Lol...this takes ridiculous to a brand new level. If you're a 13 year old, I suppose I can understand. I'm 41. Smartphone and tablets have revolutionized my business, my social life, my personal life...and useless trivia while shooting pool over suds. Easily THE biggest revolution since the Internet. And if you call Samsung's throwing crap to the wall to see what sticks (and copying everyone else in the industry) innovation...you should not only look up the word but learn about the Apple v Samsung case---realize that Samsung makes refrigerators and clock radios...TVs and microwave ovens...and at any given time, worldwide---over two dozen cell phones. This isn't innovation. Half of the suggestions for innovation that you and others have mentioned are a joke. The other half are pure copy cat maneuvers. I like NFC. But for me, it's all but worthless. I'm in America....so it's not heavily used by merchants. Perhaps over seas it's different. Me...and my Note find it to be useless. Keeping the screen on when you're looking at it??? Really? I've never had that issue with my iPhone. The SPen sucks!!! It's nearly worthless with the exception of signing contracts for us with our clients. Siri is getting better all the time....but beta is beta. I'm a heavy Google user....and I've found the iPhone to be the absolute BEST Google phone on the market...between G+, Maps (better in iOS than Android now!), gmail, and docs with Google drive, I'm missing nothing!

Originally Posted by SomeDudeAsking

I know you will deny this because of your bias, but how about the mass production of high resolution Super AMOLED displays. Or all the high density flash memory in your smartphone? Or how about smartphone radio technology? Samsung has innovated in all these areas and more.

AMOLED is a joke. Oversaturated colors, battery draining, and absolutely AWFUL in any kind of daylight. IPS blows AMOLeD out the window. As does Sharp's IGZO technology. I'll give you NAND (flash storage) though I believe Broadcom is making their cellular radios.

Originally Posted by The Game 161

I don't know sales appear to be down lately and more are buying galaxy phones that ever before.

Just the opposite. Home sales don't appear to be down at all. In fact, all indicators are that they are through the roof. Never have they sold this many iOS devices in a single quarter. iPhone is the number on smart phone in the US. It's been a monster in China as well. Not sure how you came up with that

As far as galaxy phones....yes, the GSIII is the biggest selling item Samsung has ever sold. Period. It's a monster for them...and I do look forward to the GSIV. I'm just hoping they switch from AMOLED to IPS.

Originally Posted by Tinmania

Smart stay.
Motion control (wave hand over the device when off and it comes on to show notifications).
Smart rotate.
S Pen
Best Shot
Best Faces

The camera features alone give me little hope of Apple equaling let alone surpassing them.



Michael

Except the iPhone's camera takes better photos. The App Store offers far, FAR more third party camera and editing options. iPhoto and photoshop are incredible. Best faces is a joke! Seriously....have you actually tried to use it? It's a train wreck! Best shot? Really?? You can't figure that out yourself? The SPen was terrible in the original Note...I'm not familiar with the updates to the Note II but I've heard it's been significantly updated. I've no idea what smart rotate is, but waving my hand over my phone to retrieve notifications seems silly. Ymmv

Originally Posted by The iGentleman

If there is a diminishing return, it would be with the iPhone. With the iPhone 5, they once again increased the power under the hood, but due to the OS' lack of sophistication, the end user doesn't see any real benefit from it. On the other hand, with Android there is a tangible benefit as the OS is doing a lot more, and thus is advantageous to have the additional horsepower.


S-Pen
S-Beam
Face Unlock
Smart Stay
Google Voice
Google Now
Google's Cloud services (which has been a part of Android for years)
NFC based mobile payments
NFC data transfers
NFC based device automation
Data Usage management
Wifi Direct
Photosphere


By the way, the "retina display" wasn't an innovation as there had already been other devices out with a higher ppi.



See the above lists...

Really? I'm all ears....what smartphone on the market had higher PPI than the iPhone 4 pre release? Wifi direct? There's an app for that. Bump allows instant file transfers. Google services are almost all available on iOS as is their cloud and drive service. Photosphere? Really??! Come on man...I'm sure you use it as much as I use panorama. Face unlock is an absolute joke...TOTAL Joke. Other than NFC payment (not in the USA yet....at least prominently)---there's literally an app for that!

And honesty, that is the bottom line. The software. The apps. Video and photo manipulation. Productivity and utilitarian apps (I'm a pilot in Alaska and the iPad mini has all but replaced my knee board Jep charts and owner/SOP manuals)...actual applications and software to 'create' vs just 'consume'. Especially in the tablet/phablet front. Even the apps with parity....most just 'look' cheap on my Android devices vs my iOS units. The top 10 'paid' apps in the Play store consist of 7 'tools’. ROM managers, developer and rooting apps, and tools to tinker with. I think there are two games in the top ten. Scroll through the top 500 and you'll quickly see the number one area that Android still lags (severely) behind iOS. Perhaps that's why Android fans are so giddy about what their phone does on it's own....because like the old days of Apple, third party software is lacking something terrible. I think it's only a (short) matter of time that the Windows phone platform builds up their app base and surpasses Play Store's options wih viable, usable software for the masses.

J

[matttye]

Originally Posted by akdj

Apple NEVER releases sales figures before quarterlies. Are you new to Apple? From EVERY prediction I've seen, the iPhone 5 is the fastest selling iOS device in history...and YES! They're a business...ultimately a successful business is based on increased sales...no need to bat an eyelid if you're still number 1!

Not new to Apple but I don't follow them THAT closely; sales figures don't really interest me. I was merely commenting on the recent news articles indicating reduced component orders for the iPhone 5, which many believe means orders were not as strong as they expected.

Also, if orders are not as strong as projected I think that's a cause for concern even if you're still number 1.

[cambookpro]

Originally Posted by akdj

Interesting. Especially considering the 'speed' of the A6 and it's associated GPU.
It crushes the competition...if its only specifications you're concerned with, the i5 and iPad 4 are currently top of the heap...and will be until Tegra 4 units are in the pipeline. Keep in mind, iOS doesn't have that deep layer of sludge (Java) to dig through any time your want to do ANYthing on your phone.

Galaxy S III: 2GB RAM, NFC, 4.8" screen, quad-core etc
iPhone 5: 1GB RAM, no NFC, 4" screen, dual-core...

I think it's the other way round. The iP5 may not be top of the pile purely specs wise, but it still outperforms almost every other phone. This is why I don't think Apple are too concerned about sticking an extra gig of RAM in or a quad-core SoC just so it looks better on paper - the phone runs perfectly without it.

[matttye]

Originally Posted by cambookpro

Galaxy S III: 2GB RAM, NFC, 4.8" screen, quad-core etc
iPhone 5: 1GB RAM, no NFC, 4" screen, dual-core...

I think it's the other way round. The iP5 may not be top of the pile purely specs wise, but it still outperforms almost every other phone. This is why I don't think Apple are too concerned about sticking an extra gig of RAM in or a quad-core SoC just so it looks better on paper - the phone runs perfectly without it.

Yep specs are pretty pointless. Can be a quad core 4GHz monster but newer architectures could still be more efficient.

[The Game 161]

I guess for Samsung it's about extending the volume with the S4 now that the S3 has been so huge. Could be a huge year for them and least from apple's ooint of view they will see that product before they release the 5S or whatever else is brought out.

[Fernandez21]

Originally Posted by cambookpro

Galaxy S III: 2GB RAM, NFC, 4.8" screen, quad-core etc
iPhone 5: 1GB RAM, no NFC, 4" screen, dual-core...

I think it's the other way round. The iP5 may not be top of the pile purely specs wise, but it still outperforms almost every other phone. This is why I don't think Apple are too concerned about sticking an extra gig of RAM in or a quad-core SoC just so it looks better on paper - the phone runs perfectly without it.

Of the "specs" you listed, only the RAM and NFC are valid. Screen size is subjective to the user, and just saying quad core is better than dual core is completely wrong. You may as well say the Intel QX6700 quad core is superior to the i5 dual core because it has more cores (hint: Its not, the QX6700 was released in 2006) This is an Exinos or Snap Dragon S4 vs A6, and for performance they're pretty even.

[Tinmania]

Originally Posted by akdj

Except the iPhone's camera takes better photos.

Nah, seems equal to me. iPhone definitely takes better pics than my Nexus 4, but not my Note 2.

The App Store offers far, FAR more third party camera and editing options. iPhoto and photoshop are incredible.

lol... Yea an app is going to magically give the iPhone camera a burst mode that really works, among other things.

Not to mention if I wanted to bother with an app I could just as well get one from the play store. But my phone doesn't need to, unlike the iPhone's crude camera app. Not to mention it slows down as the camera roll fills. Or that screenshots go into the camera roll (ugh).

And yes, I have used all the phone features on my Note 2. They work. If you can't make them work perhaps you didn't understand them. <shrug>





Michael

[The iGentleman]

Originally Posted by akdj

Really? I'm all ears....what smartphone on the market had higher PPI than the iPhone 4 pre release?

Actually that was a typo, it meant to read "high ppi". To answer your question, the Xperia X1, released in 2008 had a ppi of 311. That said, the 326 ppi of the iPhone 4 was an extremely marginal improvement, and hardly what one could consider an innovation. Sorry, but a 15 ppi increase isn't innovation.

Wifi direct? There's an app for that. Bump allows instant file transfers.

No...there's not an app for that. ..Maybe what you meant is, there's a workaround for that. There is no substitute on iOS for Wifi Direct. Bump is a workaround that requires one to upload the file to a server, and then the file to be downloaded from said server. Sorry to have to break it to you, but that is not an instant file transfer. At Christmas dinner, I recorded a video of my son opening his gifts. After recording it, my mother asked for a copy, so I sent her the file via Wifi Direct. With the video being HD, the file size was between 400-500mb. It took somewhere around 10-15 seconds for the file to be transmitted to her phone. Had we used bump, I would have had to wait an significantly longer amount of time, while I wait for a 400-500mb file to be uploaded to Bump's servers. Then after that, she'd have to wait on the file to be downloaded to her device. Since it's not a direct peer to peer connection, there's this unnecessary added step, that not only adds a significant amount of waiting, but also uses my data (unless I'm on wifi). Sorry, but that Bump workaround is subpar at best.

Google services are almost all available on iOS as is their cloud and drive service.

And your point is?

Photosphere? Really??! Come on man...I'm sure you use it as much as I use panorama.

Do I use it frequently? No. Have I used it? Yes. When my lodge volunteered at Hosea Feed the Hungry, I used it to show people what it was like to be there. Regardless of how often I use it, it is still innovative.

Face unlock is an absolute joke...TOTAL Joke.

You don't have to like it, but that doesn't change the fact its innovative.

Other than NFC payment (not in the USA yet....at least prominently)---there's literally an app for that!

You should probably stop using that phrase, as to this point, has hinted at some shoddy attempt at a workaround. In short, no there is not an app for that. There is no app that allows automation of your device simply by contacting a particular surface (nfc sticker). Tell me what app you have that pairs two devices directly for a file transfer? And don't tell me Bump, because that isn't peer to peer. Tell me what app you have that can allow you to simply tap your phone, and have automated actions take place.

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Originally Posted by The iGentleman

You should probably stop using that phrase, as to this point, has hinted at some shoddy attempt at a workaround. In short, no there is not an app for that. There is no app that allows automation of your device simply by contacting a particular surface (nfc sticker). Tell me what app you have that pairs two devices directly for a file transfer? And don't tell me Bump, because that isn't peer to peer. Tell me what app you have that can allow you to simply tap your phone, and have automated actions take place.

He will probably bring up some code scanner app.

I am loving the automation that NFC tags are giving me. I had never even considered that aspect of it when I first got my Nexus 4 (and now my Note 2). Heck, I wrongly assumed NFC would be a feature just for payments that I would rarely, if ever, use.



Michael