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haruhiko

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Sep 29, 2009
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I'm a photographer on 500px, and my portfolio has nudity in it.

This idea of protecting someone from artistic expressions in this area is a little ridiculous. People can make their own choices about what they see and what they don't.

500px puts a warning on every image that is even remotely 'adult' (even implied nudity) and you have to click through that to see the image. The only exception to this is when a photographer like me uses 500px for a hosting site that links directly via your domain (and effectively suppresses the 500px logic and allows the photographer to present their photos as they like).

I recall buying a censored fashion magazine in the app store - which I thought was pretty stupid, and I asked for my money back.

This is pretty silly stuff.
As far as I like nude women, let's be honest, the 'warning' on every image is actually an invitation rather than warning. Who will click No?
 

sjo

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Aug 30, 2005
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You missed the point. Apple is not looking to block you from getting anything. If the developer will not agree to a "17+" rating then they had to pull the version of the app that was rated "4+" age group. ... If an app is rated as "4+" and I allow my kids to install apps, then they can get easy access to it and inadvertently (or purposely) view porn.

The 500px app should return to the App Store with a 17+ rating and should get a huge spike in popularity thanks to all this free publicity.

Yeah, because nude = porn.
 

Oberhorst

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Nov 4, 2010
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What stupid eejits complained about child pornography on 500px?? How prude do you have to be to think there's even "child pornography" on 500px? Morons, grampses like that shouldn't use iPhones in the first place...
 

iGrip

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Jul 1, 2010
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I didn't know Apple sold Safari in the AppStore. :confused:

Apple does not sell Safari in the Apple store. Apple sells Safari bundled with iDevices.

But you knew that already.

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I didn't know Safari was for sale at the App Store. How much does it cost? Does it offer In-App purchases? :D

You and Rogifan are pretending in the same manner. I'm not sure what that says about you two. Probably nothing.

Apple sells Safari. The POS is not the App Store. Instead, people buy Safari at Wall Mart, bundled into their iPurchase.
 

iGrip

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Jul 1, 2010
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What if you are a professional photographer who owns an iPhone and happens to take/view/participate in classy nude photography?


You simply switch to Android.

And given the latest stats, that is happening more and more often, all over the world.

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There were nude self portraits of 16 year old girls on 500px that never got deleted. I bet this is illegal not only in the U.S. and by the way, 500px is a company in Canada.

Nude photos of 16 year old girls are NOT illegal unless other factors are present.

Nudity != pornography.

Pornographic photos of 16 year old girls are illegal whether they are nude or fully clothed.
 

iGrip

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Jul 1, 2010
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btw they weren't pictures of Lilly by any chance?


Lilian Gish was one of the most beautiful women who ever lived.

lilliangish_354.jpg


For me and Lily are together in my dreams
And I ask you,
"Hey mister, have you ever seen
Pictures of Lily?"
 

cappadonna

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Jan 15, 2013
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You simply switch to Android.

And given the latest stats, that is happening more and more often, all over the world..


"Switch to android and see all the nudity you want!"

They should do a survey to see how many people list the lack of nudity as their dealbreaker for ios.

Such a much ado about nothing story but gets so much traction just cause it's Apple of course!
 

iGrip

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Jul 1, 2010
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This has probably more to do with their legal department protecting that 100+ billion nest egg from law suits and worries about a boycott from some outraged organization, then moral judgement on Apples part.....

Follow the money.

Apple did this for the same reason they do everything: They think that it will increase their total profits.

Anything and everything Apple does is to increase total profits. The only question is whether we like the methods they use to attain their goal.

Patent abuse, using the courts as a means to vex and destroy competitors, and disallowing adults from using the apps of their choice all strike me as methods which are objectionable.
 

69650

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Mar 23, 2006
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Absolutely pathetic. Apple's righteous indignation makes me sick.

Open Safari, type nude pics into the search bar and see what happens.

Parents should police their kids not Apple.
 

mono1980

macrumors 6502
Feb 15, 2005
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Insane. I thought this crap was behind us and some common sense and sanity was being brought to the app store approval process. Apparently I was wrong.
 

samcraig

macrumors P6
Jun 22, 2009
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I'm sure if Apple got complaints about child porn in those books they'd remove them too.

Removing a book or movie is not the same as removing an App.

a 1:1 comparison would be removing iTunes for finding a book or movie that was deemed pornographic.

There could easily be things about this story though. Perhaps Apple and 500px couldn't come to an agreement about content or how it was policed. But that being said - Safari, YouTube and lots of other apps have just as easy access to pornography. And they remain in the appstore.
 

PracticalMac

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Jan 22, 2009
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And HOW is this different then using Safari to search for nude photos?

What about Google and Bing?

Going to pull them all?

This is asinine to the least.
 

cappadonna

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Jan 15, 2013
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Removing a book or movie is not the same as removing an App.

a 1:1 comparison would be removing iTunes for finding a book or movie that was deemed pornographic.

There could easily be things about this story though. Perhaps Apple and 500px couldn't come to an agreement about content or how it was policed. But that being said - Safari, YouTube and lots of other apps have just as easy access to pornography. And they remain in the appstore.

But that's my point, if those apps remain there, why is the automatic assumption just Apple hates nudity and is trying to be the moral police?
 

alent1234

macrumors 603
Jun 19, 2009
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Removing a book or movie is not the same as removing an App.

a 1:1 comparison would be removing iTunes for finding a book or movie that was deemed pornographic.

There could easily be things about this story though. Perhaps Apple and 500px couldn't come to an agreement about content or how it was policed. But that being said - Safari, YouTube and lots of other apps have just as easy access to pornography. And they remain in the appstore.

using safari to visit a site and an app that accesses that company's owned database of photos are two completely different things
 

samcraig

macrumors P6
Jun 22, 2009
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But that's my point, if those apps remain there, why is the automatic assumption just Apple hates nudity and is trying to be the moral police?

I never said they were doing either. I was noting the hypocrisy.

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using safari to visit a site and an app that accesses that company's owned database of photos are two completely different things

Oh. How? Do you know to access adult content on 500px you have to go to the website (not app) and change your settings?

And 500px - the company doesn't own the photos. The users do. The app is a portal.

In fact it's easier to find porn via safari "out of the box" then it is 500px.
 

cappadonna

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Jan 15, 2013
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I never said they were doing either. I was noting the hypocrisy..

Again, that's my point. Why is it automatically a negative towards Apple? Could there not be extenuating circumstances that made them target this app over any other? Why are they automatically labeled hypocritical? Especially when they said they received complaints about child porn on the app?
 
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