How long is Apple planning to keep us like so?!

ZaYoOoD · Jan 25, 2013, 08:50 PM

Hey,
As most of you know the 2012 Mac Mini has a huge problem with HDMI displays. The most annoying of all is the crushed whites, and bad colours.
I cannot stand this any more, it is really annoying!

So, any ideas about the release date of 10.8.3, or the release date of the fix?

thnx

philipma1957 · Jan 25, 2013, 08:50 PM

10.8.3 will drop before feb 14th

foofan · Jan 25, 2013, 08:55 PM

i'm planning on buying a 2012 mini and hook it up to my hdtv via hdmi. where are these problems you mentioned discussed on the web?

ZaYoOoD · Jan 25, 2013, 08:56 PM

Yes, everyone has them..
But hopefully the next update will fix them..
The problem is in the i5 processor..

thejadedmonkey · Jan 25, 2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZaYoOoD

Yes, everyone has them..
But hopefully the next update will fix them..
The problem is in the i5 processor..

The i5 doesn't have a problem, it's the drivers. Nothing Apple couldn't fix with a software update if they tried.

jhfenton · Jan 25, 2013, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ZaYoOoD

Yes, everyone has them..
But hopefully the next update will fix them..
The problem is in the i5 processor..

No. Not everyone has them.

No. The problem is not in the i5 processor.

Since the mid-December EFI update, a small number of mini owners have trouble with whites/brightness with displays connected via HDMI. I'm not quite sure what the variable is, but it's a small number compared to the folks who had the HDMI flickering problem that was fixed in December.

I received my mini on 12/14, and immediately installed the update. So I've never had a hint of trouble.

I suspect the remaining HDMI issues will be fixed in 10.8.3. Just a guess.

John

Luis2004 · Jan 25, 2013, 10:15 PM

I have the i7 and the hdmi output is garbage. Bad colors, text is absolute trash.

DVI is crisp and excellent. I was shocked at the difference.

philipma1957 · Jan 25, 2013, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luis2004

I have the i7 and the hdmi output is garbage. Bad colors, text is absolute trash.

DVI is crisp and excellent. I was shocked at the difference.

my hdmi to my sony tv is really good.

but if I move the mini and hook it to my 24 inch monitor it suffers.

the tv is 1080p the monitor is 1200p

AQUADock · Jan 26, 2013, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by philipma1957

my hdmi to my sony tv is really good.

but if I move the mini and hook it to my 24 inch monitor it suffers.

the tv is 1080p the monitor is 1200p

So maybe resolution is whats causing the problem.

Luis2004 · Jan 26, 2013, 07:25 AM

I don't know if it's resolution or simply standing back far enough from a TV. My 1080p 46" tv is good for when I watch movies connecting the mini via HDMI; movies look sharp and in HD. But that might be because I'm sitting 10 feet away and unable to make out fine details like text on a paper.

When I connect it to my 23" HP 1080p monitor, the DVI works great (I use it for work, so text definition is a must) for text and movies, but HDMI looks awful.

Maybe because I'm sitting too close? Who knows.

Woyzeck · Jan 27, 2013, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jhfenton

Since the mid-December EFI update, a small number of mini owners have trouble with whites/brightness with displays connected via HDMI. I'm not quite sure what the variable is, but it's a small number compared to the folks who had the HDMI flickering problem that was fixed in December.

The update fixed the blackout/snow issue for most people, but it didn't handle the crushed out whites. This problem still prevails.

jhfenton · Jan 27, 2013, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woyzeck

The update fixed the blackout/snow issue for most people, but it didn't handle the crushed out whites. This problem still prevails.

That's what I said. It's just not a problem that everyone has, which is what ZaYoOoD said. I've never seen it the crushed whites problem. And based on the number of complaints on Mac forums, it's a less prevalent problem than the original blackout/snow/flicker HDMI issue.

That doesn't mean it that it doesn't need to be fixed.

I'm not registered as an OS X developer, so I don't know what 10.8.3 does.

John

Xowi · Jan 29, 2013, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luis2004

I have the i7 and the hdmi output is garbage. Bad colors, text is absolute trash.

DVI is crisp and excellent. I was shocked at the difference.

Text bad on television display or computer intended display?

slickadam · Jan 29, 2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Xowi

Text bad on television display or computer intended display?

does that matter? as long as my "dumb" windows 7 based notebook can send perfect picture to my plasma television, the mini should do that too. but it can't...

Luis2004 · Jan 29, 2013, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xowi

Text bad on television display or computer intended display?

Computer. HP 2311xi, but honestly I tried with a few different computer-monitors, all in the mid-range ($250 - $400), with different HDMI cables too. All the same.

I hook up to my 46" plasma once in a while to watch a movie on VLC, and it looks great. Probably because I'm not sitting 12 inches away and movies don't show a lot of tiny text. But colors on the tv, playing a 1080p movie, is what you would expect from a decent bluray player.

shanmugam · Jan 30, 2013, 06:44 PM

10.8.3 waiting waiting

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philipma1957 macrumors 603 Join Date: Apr 2010	10.8.3 will drop before feb 14th
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foofan macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New England	i'm planning on buying a 2012 mini and hook it up to my hdtv via hdmi. where are these problems you mentioned discussed on the web?
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ZaYoOoD Thread Starter macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2010	Yes, everyone has them.. But hopefully the next update will fix them.. The problem is in the i5 processor..
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Luis2004 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2012	I have the i7 and the hdmi output is garbage. Bad colors, text is absolute trash. DVI is crisp and excellent. I was shocked at the difference.
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Luis2004 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2012	I don't know if it's resolution or simply standing back far enough from a TV. My 1080p 46" tv is good for when I watch movies connecting the mini via HDMI; movies look sharp and in HD. But that might be because I'm sitting 10 feet away and unable to make out fine details like text on a paper. When I connect it to my 23" HP 1080p monitor, the DVI works great (I use it for work, so text definition is a must) for text and movies, but HDMI looks awful. Maybe because I'm sitting too close? Who knows.
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