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Old Jan 29, 2013, 03:44 AM   #51
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Always makes me laugh when apple fans don't like mobiles made of plastic..yet as soon as they get there shiny cheap metal/glass phones, what do they do? Wrap it in a cheap plastic/rubber cover.......brain fart moment?hell yes!
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 06:15 AM   #52
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I could definitely be tempted back to Blackberry with this. Have had them in the past and liked them but didn't get on with the small keyboards.

Getting a bit fed up of Apple's minor updates and lack of innovation lately.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 06:20 AM   #53
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Plastic? Big fail.

Atleast make it out of glass if you can't find a way to incorporate aluminum/stainless steel without interfering with wifi/gps/cell/bt signals.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 08:27 AM   #54
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I have iphone5 and all the ones before...however, the OS on this new Z10 really intrigues me and makes the ios look stale in my opinion. I hope they do well so that we maybe get some major changes for our Apple products.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 08:48 AM   #55
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Who wants phone made of crappy cheap metal?
No you won't see people saying that because its a paradox, its pretty hard to find "cheap metal"...
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 09:25 AM   #56
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Plastic? Big fail.

Atleast make it out of glass if you can't find a way to incorporate aluminum/stainless steel without interfering with wifi/gps/cell/bt signals.
Why? GS3 and the Galaxy Note 2 are plastic and are very much successful.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 09:55 AM   #57
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Why? GS3 and the Galaxy Note 2 are plastic and are very much successful.
Well I am not one of them. In fact the majority of the smartphone users aren't one of them either. Only cheapskates buy those phones. Or people that really really really can not compromise on OS and display. Although that is probably the minority
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 10:12 AM   #58
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Hey there,

The new RIM phone looks good. New OS looks solid. Like some of the features we've seen so far.

It's interesting to hear the comments about iOS being 'stale'.

I agree. It hasn't changed that much, but I won't go far as to call it stale imho.

Why? because it works and not only does it work (for me at least), I'm very fast at getting to apps I want or to doing stuff on it. I don't find the interface clunky.

I'd be interested to see how RIM's new OS does with the multi-touch. Some of the features make it look like you need 2 hands to use it whereas iOS you really only need one. Granted, there isn't much available on the Z10 so who knows, maybe it's not what I think based on the little info out there.

Bottom line: maybe i don't think the iOS is stale, but I'd certainly welcome anything new and fancy they can bring to the table to change it so it's even faster to get things done. I like that Apple and Samsung are pushing each other and a strong 3rd competitor out there will only help things, I believe. Just my opinion.

I could be full of crap too for all I know (or we all could be).

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Old Jan 29, 2013, 10:37 AM   #59
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I am not a huge apple fan boy at all, but I do hate plastic phones. I have the galaxy nexus and I love the software, but the hardware is crap. The plastic just feels cheap. I really liked the weight and fell of the iPhone 4. When I got the iphone 5 it felt better than the galaxy nexus but still because it was light it just seems cheap. If BB wanted to keep up with android and apple they were going to have to have the z10 be amazing. I am not sure if it will or not. On the hardware side if it is plastic they may be doomed. I don't always hate plastic, but the road that BB has been on they would need this phone to be best looking well build phone on the market. Plastic just does not do that. The software has to be great too, but if you can't get people on board with your hardware you are in trouble. I think this is why so many people are talking about it being plastic.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 11:32 AM   #60
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Well I am not one of them. In fact the majority of the smartphone users aren't one of them either. Only cheapskates buy those phones. Or people that really really really can not compromise on OS and display. Although that is probably the minority
You make no sense. Their are MILLIONS of GS3's and Note 2's sold just like the almighty iPhone your holding.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 11:50 AM   #61
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You make no sense. Their are MILLIONS of GS3's and Note 2's sold just like the almighty iPhone your holding.
English! Do you speak it?

I didn't say samsung wasn't selling phones in the 6 figures. Maybe even 7 or 8 figures. I said the majority are still using the iphone 4/4s/5. And that certainly goes for States which I believe has more smartphones users than other parts of the world combined.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 12:06 PM   #62
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English! Do you speak it?

I didn't say samsung wasn't selling phones in the 6 figures. Maybe even 7 or 8 figures. I said the majority are still using the iphone 4/4s/5. And that certainly goes for States which I believe has more smartphones users than other parts of the world combined.
Cheapskate's? What does that mean? Only cheapskates buy anything other than iPhones?
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 12:18 PM   #63
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Well I am not one of them. In fact the majority of the smartphone users aren't one of them either. Only cheapskates buy those phones. Or people that really really really can not compromise on OS and display. Although that is probably the minority
Oh now you're ''elite'' and not a cheapskate because you own an iPhone?
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 01:05 PM   #64
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It's a nice design but if the build quality is anything like the BlackBerries I've owned in the past it'll work for a whole month before developing a fault and it'll need the battery pulling out every week in the interim.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 04:16 PM   #65
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I think the white Z10 looks better than the white iPhone, but the black iPhone looks better than the black Z10.

Can't wait for the announcement tomorrow, really looking forward to picking one of these ups.

Also, as for metal vs. plastic, while I prefer metal , don't let Samsung plastic undermine the quality plastic other manufacturers use. And BlackBerry makes some high quality plastic phones, almost the same level as Nokia.

But hey, metal or plastic, at least they are both better than glass. iPhone 4 and 4s are the only phones I ever had in a case because the glass.
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English! Do you speak it?

I didn't say samsung wasn't selling phones in the 6 figures. Maybe even 7 or 8 figures. I said the majority are still using the iphone 4/4s/5. And that certainly goes for States which I believe has more smartphones users than other parts of the world combined.
You seriously think that the States have more smartphone users that the rest of the world combined? Do you think the world only consists of North America?
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 08:01 AM   #67
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Looks pretty slick
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 08:51 AM   #68
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Everyone who's cribbing about cheap plastic, lets not forget BB came with that premium leather on the back panel of their bold series phones. The iPhone 5 didn't do much in terms of quality when apple decided to use aluminium (lets not even go there). Looking at RIM's past experience when it came to a phone's premium feel, I'm pretty sure RIM wouldn't have compromised on the quality of the plastic (if at all it is plastic). By the looks of it, the z10 looks revolutionary when compared to other BB phones.

I switched to iPhone 4 from a blackberry bold 9700 about 1.5 years ago (don't remember how long exactly) because the software wasn't any good. For some reason, I really hope BB has played its cards right with their latest offering and at least starts bringing them back to the so called 'Smartphone' market.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 09:50 AM   #69
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That's matte plastic just looks so premium...
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 06:41 PM   #70
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Well, looks like they use both, stainless steel frame and plastic battery cover.
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