Apple Drops Out of Top 20 Most Trusted Companies for Privacy - Page 2

MacRumorUser · 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogifan

Is the Ponemon Institute a widely respected/trusted institute? I've never head d them before.

Everyones heard of Ponemon ;-)

Oracle1729 · Jan 30, 2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rmwebs

Could you explain how they will be affected? Serious question.

Don't worry about it, when it happens you'll know. But you'll be in a boat with so many millions of others that knowing still won't make you care.

Just relax and go back to your content consumption with the other sheeple.

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Originally Posted by Lesser Evets

Show me a person that trusts a company, I'll show you a world-class moron.

rmwebs on reply number 7.

doctor-don · Jan 30, 2013, 08:01 AM

Really? And they surveyed people about the companies and their apparent privacy, not their security.

And at the bottom of the list are Tagged, ShoppyBag, Zorpia, LinkedIn and all the other email scammers who have stolen contacts and then sent email as though they came from those contacts. It amazes me that these companies are still doing business. So much for an ivy-league education.

applesith · Jan 30, 2013, 08:01 AM

So stupid. I don't know why people fear anonymous data collection when it's used for targeted marketing. I'd rather see ads and content relevant to my interests and activities than generic crap like when I watch TV commercials. Amazon does this quite well.

weezor · Jan 30, 2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtOfWarfare

Although I guess it was only recently that Google started regularly having pop ups saying "Hey! Tell us where you are!". Wow, couldn't be attacking my privacy any more blatantly than that... how about you accept the fact that I'm intentionally not sharing and just shut up?

And their annoying data collecting popups don't even have a X or cancel button. A couple of days ago they asked me for my real name on youtube and the only way out was closing the whole page.
Added to this, there is no way to stay logged into youtube and not be logged in on google search as well. I don't want all my data from both of the biggest internet resources do be associated with each other.

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Originally Posted by rmwebs

At the end of the day not a single one of them uses identifiable information

Sure about that? I bet this whole google AdSense stuff is linked to our google accounts as well. Which means there is absolutely no anonymity whatsoever, no matter where we surf. Google ads are everywhere.

RobertMartens · Jan 30, 2013, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by samcraig

Oh for craps sake people - this is all about perception. It's not that people trust google or X company more. This just ranks the top 20 companies overall. Has anyone looked at the list?

Stop acting like people are saying they don't TRUST Apple - that's not what is being said.

Apple doesn't have to be #1 at everything or on every list. Wow.

Microsoft (ranked 17),
United Healthcare (ranked 18) and
Mozilla (ranked 20).

Microsofts first appearance in the 7 years of polling
Apple wasn't on the list for the first 3 years

Oh yeah, I forgot to ask, so what?

OrangeSVTguy · Jan 30, 2013, 08:05 AM

When has Facebook ever been known for privacy? How else do you think they make their money?

macs4nw · Jan 30, 2013, 08:07 AM

This is only about 'public perception' though. Hardly surprising that any big Tech Co could even be on that list.
"The nature of the beast" that is a 'connected' world.

Something to keep in mind, when entering personal information.

Xgm541 · Jan 30, 2013, 08:16 AM

And here come the doomsday prophets...

ECUpirate44 · Jan 30, 2013, 08:16 AM

If you're looking for privacy, the internet is not the place for you.

maclancer · Jan 30, 2013, 08:16 AM

If you want privacy, do not go online... plain and simple.

bwillwall · Jan 30, 2013, 08:18 AM

If Facebook or Google were on that list is means nothing anyways

samcraig · Jan 30, 2013, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bwillwall

If Facebook or Google were on that list is means nothing anyways

They aren't.

Are people looking at the actual PDF - or just chiming in?

notjustjay · Jan 30, 2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by samcraig

They aren't.

Are people looking at the actual PDF - or just chiming in?

I think the idea is that they were on that list at one point.

bwillwall · Jan 30, 2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by samcraig

They aren't.

Are people looking at the actual PDF - or just chiming in?

If you read the article it says they used to be but lost their place.

ConsiderPhlebas · Jan 30, 2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by turtlez

oh shiiii better stop using my MAC! Someone might find out my first name then all hell is gonna break loose! I hope my neighbour who I dislike doesn't give away my address, phone number, DOB, visual description, likes/dislikes, biography, photos of my home, rock samples from my driveway!!!

You can start to see how Apple finding out that I visited Facebook, macrumors etc doesn't really matter if you take a step back and think like someone with intelligence. After all they are using the meaningless info to make our lives better so stop whining.

PS. Apple knows my first and last name as well as my address, phone number, credit card number etc because I ordered my mac online. So yeh.

Its not the fact that Apple has this information, it's who the hell else they give or sell it to.

Stella · 08:38 AM

Overall I think Apple does a pretty good job of privacy.

But, because Apple is a very visible company, the media will jump on any privacy mis-steps and get bought to the public attention very effectively.

thewap · Jan 30, 2013, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ConsiderPhlebas

Its not the fact that Apple has this information, it's who the hell else they give or sell it to.

Apple Cloud privacy is not an issue anymore, at least for government:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

ghost187 · Jan 30, 2013, 08:33 AM

The stock went up 2 days in a row, they had to come up with something to break the rally.

JohnStrass · Jan 30, 2013, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogifan

Is the Ponemon Institute a widely respected/trusted institute? I've never head d them before.

from the report "...American Express (AMEX) continues to reign as the most trusted company for privacy among 217 organizations rated in our most trusted companies list....."

Are you kidding me. Amex? The credit card company that became a bank to scam money from the government "bank" bailout? The one that has records of every purchase I've made in the last 5 years?

Yikes. If AMEX is the "most trusted" then all is lost

samcraig · Jan 30, 2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ghost187

The stock went up 2 days in a row, they had to come up with something to break the rally.

Take off your tin foil hat. It's an annual report. And it was a survey. The survey itself doesn't slam or comment on Apple's omission from the list.

Radio · Jan 30, 2013, 08:36 AM

Insert apple excuse because its apple

charlesdayton · Jan 30, 2013, 08:37 AM

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So much for doubling down security

That was said about product manufacturing security to prevent leaks. This is a survey about people opinion of how the companies protect their privacy. Nothing to do with each other.

ghost187 · Jan 30, 2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by samcraig

Take off your tin foil hat. It's an annual report. And it was a survey. The survey itself doesn't slam or comment on Apple's omission from the list.

Lol, a company that measures people's "perception" of privacy. Who funds these people?

charlesdayton · Jan 30, 2013, 08:41 AM

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Those people who always use REAL details, and also enter ALL REAL details are gonna be the ones affected. Not me

No one is getting affected. It is a SURVEY of user's perception not a privacy audit.

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Jan 30, 2013, 08:26 AM	#42
Stella macrumors 603 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada	Overall I think Apple does a pretty good job of privacy. But, because Apple is a very visible company, the media will jump on any privacy mis-steps and get bought to the public attention very effectively. __________________ Hardware / Software: The right tools for the job - be it Apple or otherwise. Last edited by Stella; Jan 30, 2013 at 08:38 AM.
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Jan 30, 2013, 08:01 AM	#28
doctor-don macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Georgia USA	Really? And they surveyed people about the companies and their apparent privacy, not their security. And at the bottom of the list are Tagged, ShoppyBag, Zorpia, LinkedIn and all the other email scammers who have stolen contacts and then sent email as though they came from those contacts. It amazes me that these companies are still doing business. So much for an ivy-league education.
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Jan 30, 2013, 08:01 AM	#29
applesith macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jun 2007	So stupid. I don't know why people fear anonymous data collection when it's used for targeted marketing. I'd rather see ads and content relevant to my interests and activities than generic crap like when I watch TV commercials. Amazon does this quite well.
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Jan 30, 2013, 08:07 AM	#33
macs4nw macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2010	This is only about 'public perception' though. Hardly surprising that any big Tech Co could even be on that list. "The nature of the beast" that is a 'connected' world. Something to keep in mind, when entering personal information.
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Jan 30, 2013, 08:18 AM	#37
bwillwall macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2009	If Facebook or Google were on that list is means nothing anyways
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Jan 30, 2013, 08:33 AM	#44
ghost187 macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2010	The stock went up 2 days in a row, they had to come up with something to break the rally.
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Jan 30, 2013, 08:36 AM	#47
Radio macrumors 65816 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Central California	Insert apple excuse because its apple
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