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Old Jan 31, 2013, 02:46 PM   #1
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Ashton Kutcher and Josh Gad Talk 'Jobs' at Macworld




Ashton Kutcher and Josh Gad kicked off the Macworld/iWorld conference in San Francisco this morning, talking about their new feature film 'Jobs' that premiered at Sundance. Kutcher plays the iconic Jobs, while Gad takes on the role of Steve Wozniak.

The Next Web wrote up much of the conversation, including this part about how Steve Jobs affected Kutcher:
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"Steve believed it was possible to do something impossible," says Kutcher, alluding to the third thing that he took away from the film. He made reference to [a] famous quote that Jobs gave in an interview.

Kutcher says that this stuck with him. "When I heard that," says Kutcher, "he was talking to me, and he was talking to you. He was saying 'don't settle' for what life gives you, make life better."
And this, addressing criticisms aimed at the movie, including from Steve Wozniak himself:
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"There will always be debates about what we got right and what we got wrong," says Gad, "but if I had a chance to sit down with him I'd explain that it was done with the utmost love, admiration and respect. And I hope when he sees it...in its entirety, that he can understand that."

"We weren't there," says Kutcher. "Part of it is, in filmmaking, you have to make a narrative that plays. If you look at the events of these guys' journey together, there were probably a lot of moments where there was nobody else there. You have to ride the arc of entertainment of the film and stay true to who the people were, how the people were and what the intent was."
'Jobs' premieres nationwide on April 19th.

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Old Jan 31, 2013, 02:53 PM   #2
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I would guess pitiful film.
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Old Jan 31, 2013, 02:53 PM   #3
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I agree about going along for the ride. However - it could be argued that the writers did have potential access to one of the parties involved in the scenarios where "no one else was there" to do some research.
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Old Jan 31, 2013, 02:53 PM   #4
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Kutcher is a legendary actor. I believe he has delved so deep into the role that Apple should actually hire him to revamp their aging product line. He may be a better Steve Jobs than Jobs himself was.
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Old Jan 31, 2013, 02:56 PM   #5
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"You know, we're going to make some mistakes along the way. But that's good -- at least decisions are being made along the way! When we make a mistake, we'll correct it."

Steve Jobs, 1997

Think about that while whining about inaccuracy, even obvious inaccuracy. Focus on -- is it a good film? Does it tell an interesting story in an interesting way? Did Kelso do a good Jobs? Looks pretty good to me so far, but what do I know.
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Old Jan 31, 2013, 03:09 PM   #6
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I wish the movie well.

Those that have read the official biography, watched One More Thing, and Pirates of Silicon Valley probably can point out the inaccuracies but maybe this movie is about bring more people into the Apple story than catering to people that have been following the store since 1984, or before.

Give it a chance. Bring your wife/husband/significant other that doesn't realize the impact the company has had on you. Maybe it will help them understand your passion for the company.
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He took our Jobs!!!!
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Old Jan 31, 2013, 03:16 PM   #9
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I'm looking forward to seeing it. I hope they worked my suggestion into a scene: I wanted to see Kutcher/Jobs/Kelso sitting in 'the circle' sharing some grass with Woz, Bill Gates, and maybe Ballmer.

Ballmer could really use some.

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There is no mention of Xerox PARC where Apple got its graphical UI, and the Bill Gates relationship is nothing more than a one-sided phone call of Jobs yelling into the receiver.
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Or MAYBE, they could have sat down with Woz, listened to HIS story, and actually created an accurate movie...
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Or MAYBE, they could have sat down with Woz, listened to HIS story, and actually created an accurate movie...
THIS... Woz is still here.. Why are they talking like we could never know what really happened because we weren't there... Woz was there.
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Old Jan 31, 2013, 03:59 PM   #13
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You could take the egomaniacal Jobs version of the story and spin it into a movie adding what you want along the way since he isn't here to correct the mistakes.

or

You could take the egomaniacal Woz version of the story and NOT spin it into a movie adding what you want along the way since he IS here to correct the mistakes.

Either way it is a loss for true fans of the story and how they came along. Being that half the fans of Apple are hipsters who will only like the movie ironically it was just easier for them to change what they want and pander to what the broad public wants to think is the way it happened.
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Or MAYBE, they could have sat down with Woz, listened to HIS story, and actually created an accurate movie...
I believe they tried that, and he wasn't interested. Instead, he chose to sit down with Sony about the movie coming out later this year.
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Old Jan 31, 2013, 04:37 PM   #15
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Does anyone know how the other film is going? Is there a script yet? Casting rumours?

This one just seems like a movie of the week. Maybe something that would be on lifetime. Maybe I'd watch it late at night on netflix if I'm really bored.
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Who cares, why is this even on the front page?
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I think he was talking about this:

http://youtu.be/nWNho8g0lsU

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...and in the end its just a movie. The same way all the other "Jobs" and "Apple" movies that are out there, this just happens to have a big name attached to it.

And honestly Kutcher is right, its entertainment and im sure there were a tremendous amount of boring things during the duration of the early years at Apple...so they compounded them into nice events.
I dont know why Woz is getting up in arms about it, if he wants to make a movie about Apple and all that, I'm sure he has more than enough power, money, connections, and resources to make it happen.

should be entertaining. and MAYBE someone at apple will watch it and think well hell we're not doing much innovation anymore, maybe we should connect to our roots and wakeup...
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I wish the movie well.

Those that have read the official biography, watched One More Thing, and Pirates of Silicon Valley probably can point out the inaccuracies but maybe this movie is about bring more people into the Apple story than catering to people that have been following the store since 1984, or before.

Give it a chance. Bring your wife/husband/significant other that doesn't realize the impact the company has had on you. Maybe it will help them understand your passion for the company.
Or maybe not.

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Saw the trailer. It's a TV movie of the week kind of thing. So if you like movies made for TV you're in for a treat. If not...Read the book.
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Old Jan 31, 2013, 05:56 PM   #22
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Sometimes real life is not that entertaining.

I refer you to "reality television" as an example.
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"You know, we're going to make some mistakes along the way. But that's good -- at least decisions are being made along the way! When we make a mistake, we'll correct it."

Steve Jobs, 1997

Think about that while whining about inaccuracy, even obvious inaccuracy. Focus on -- is it a good film? Does it tell an interesting story in an interesting way? Did Kelso do a good Jobs? Looks pretty good to me so far, but what do I know.
Exactly this.

For example after watching the Social Network, I think it probably wasn't a very accurate representation of events. To start with, Mark Zuckerberg certainly doesn't seem as social and sharp on the tongue in real life as he does in the movie. However, it was a movie that I enjoyed watching so I didn't really care.

I just hope I think the same about this movie after watching it.
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Old Jan 31, 2013, 06:38 PM   #24
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"Steve believed it was possible to do something impossible,"

This is incorrect. Steve believed it was possible to do something perceived as impossible.

If it was impossible, no one could do it, no matter how driven.
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..Because without the man that this film focuses on this website wouldn't even exist.


Not what I meant. I'm a fan of Steve Jobs like many others here. However, I'm no fan of Ashton Kutcher.

Pirates of Silicon Valley seems like it has an edge on this movie story wise. The only thing redeeming about jOBS (or however they want to call it now) is its production value.
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