I don't use dropbox so correct me if i'm wrong. Isn't dropbox an application with it's own dedicated window ? In other words not part of the native Finder.
Now Imagine a dropbox concept that is integrated into the Finder window.
This is it.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Acquires 18 'Axis-Based User Interface' Patents from Maya-Systems
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I don't use dropbox so correct me if i'm wrong. Isn't dropbox an application with it's own dedicated window ? In other words not part of the native Finder.
Now Imagine a dropbox concept that is integrated into the Finder window.
This is it.
After watching Maya's video
Sounds like an ideal solution for taking iCloud from personal usage into becoming more of a collaborative business level tool.
The Axes paradigm can be used in many areas but it looks a bit confusing in the picture above. I expect that Apple's usage will contain significant polish and emphasize easy sharing and collaboration through iCloud.
iWork is a nice candidate. See as how Apple fast tracked Siri would could see this hit in 10.9.
Love the idea of taking Spotlight style searching and extending that right into the Cloud and across client devices.
Sounds like an ideal solution for taking iCloud from personal usage into becoming more of a collaborative business level tool.
The Axes paradigm can be used in many areas but it looks a bit confusing in the picture above. I expect that Apple's usage will contain significant polish and emphasize easy sharing and collaboration through iCloud.
iWork is a nice candidate. See as how Apple fast tracked Siri would could see this hit in 10.9.
Love the idea of taking Spotlight style searching and extending that right into the Cloud and across client devices.
I only pressed play on the video after your comment. I needed some phasing out since I quit on drugs a few months ago.
in other news, the first background used seems eerily close to apple's cross-hatch background used in notification centre
Yeah, but you're the one making Folder X and Folder Y. If Folder X is "PDFs and Word Docs", then that's where you would save PDFs. You can have two or more apps creating the same type of files - which is what is annoying; you have to open up the app, wait for it to load, then see if it contains the document you're looking for.
I don't know about you, but if you had to wait 2 minutes to load Photoshop just to view a Photoshop document, I would switch operating systems. In OS X, I can just go to my "Pictures" folder and find my document and email it.
No, that doesn't completely solve the problem.
Delete the original file, and the alias remains. If you have 50 aliases, you have lots of unnecessary work to do. You wouldn't even know where they are or how many of them to delete.
I don't want to manually create a smart folder for each view I might want to get. It'd be ridiculous how many you'd have to create and delete.
Labels make the above automatic and effortless, which is absolutely ESSENTIAL. You don't want a solution that adds effort, even just a tiny bit, since it all adds up.
When you have two different apps making the same document, you're telling me it is easier to have the user open up both apps just to find the document? Wouldn't a "smart folder" containing like documents be easier?
Clearly files/folders metaphor works or why does Apple include it in Pages? At some point, things need organized.
If you have a project that includes Pages documents and Excel documents, there is no way to overview your project with an app-based solution.
Attachments
How much harder is it to add a filter in Finder than manually adding a label to each file (and having to remember to do so every time on every file)?
Legit question as if there is a truly easier way, I'd rather have that.
Ok, I see what you're saying. Yea, I've noticed some confusing overlaps arising as iOS and some of the apps have progressed. On occasion I have been confused about the whereabouts of a PDF document that I transferred to iCloud. For example, the location of a PDF document can exist in either iBooks, Pages, or Preview, which for the latter, is only available on Mac, which adds even more to that confusion.
For the "big picture" however, I would say Apple's iOS structure plays nicer still for the mass market. But I do agree that these overlaps of particular files that run in more than one app should be improved and addressed somehow in future iOS updates.
I think OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion added a nice feature with the "Arrange by..." in Finder where it breaks down your types of files in a horizontal cover flow format.
Last edited:
Well I have a "spreadsheets" folder and a "word docs" folder, but sometimes I save spreadsheets and word docs used for specific purposes in other folders as well.....
I understand what you're saying - though I've never had an app on my phone take more than a few seconds to load.
Labels should not be manually added to each and every file/folder.
Applying "Pictures" label to all .jpg files manually would obviously be quite stupid and more work than just having a View that shows you all .jpg files.
But suppose you have a bunch of photos in a folder. You might want to apply some labels to some of them, like "Photos of Cars", or "Best Photos", or "Group Photos". A given photo might have zero, one, or more labels. And then you can view all the "Best Photos". If you want to delete or edit a photo, there's only one copy to touch.
They lost me at "You just add tags to all your files and photos"
Been there, stopped doing it for lack of time
Been there, stopped doing it for lack of time
I really want to know what people are doing that they are forgetting where they save files. I do web editing, graphics, music editing, video editing, and have a ton of text documents at any given time. By simply being half organized I have zero problem pulling up any given document at any given time.
I am not adverse to change, but I really do not see how this is so much better than folders. Must be a lot of people out there who do not understand that their folders do not have to be named: "untitled folder"
I am not adverse to change, but I really do not see how this is so much better than folders. Must be a lot of people out there who do not understand that their folders do not have to be named: "untitled folder"
They lost me at "You just add tags to all your files and photos"
Been there, stopped doing it for lack of time
Just what I thought. Why is everyone so obsessed with telling me how to store and sort my data? Folders and files work perfectly fine for me, locally and remotely.
Because the world at large tends to struggle with the concept of efficient folder management.
M
Mr.damien
Guest
Seems ugly, and the fact that they don't even put a single screenshot of their products in their videos seems to confirm this.
You mean a "server"?
This "cloud" terminology is merely a metaphor for the general public to explain 'not on your local computer, somewhere on someone else's server'.
But you are correct about Dropbox, they by no means rule the server business... just a relatively well designed consumer-grade, kiddy toy by comparison. But you'll see it championed as the be-all-end-all because they give out a free GB peanuts to all the chimps at the zoo. For example, A3 crushes Dropbox, but you gotta pay for it, a detail not popular with members of the new KKK (Kollectivist Klown Kollective).
iCloud doesn't do everything MobileMe/iTools did. Personally I think for what it does, it does it way better. In addition, unless you're a 6-fingered noob, it's also totally easy to set up and sync for iDevices. I think the most valuable part of Apple's strategy was enabling iCloud to be a primary set-up and sync method for iDevices. If you want to attract new users (which they seem to be pretty good at), helps if you don't have support a ton of legacy platforms and hardware to get your fancy new device happening. That's big shift to try and spearhead, I think you'll see Apple pushing further into the more sophisticated services when they build out more data-center capacity.
Remember to remind whining babies moaning about iCloud, that it takes a local server cluster to make any of their petty feature wishes a reality across all of Apple's sizable user base.
I just don't want to have to tag my files manually with keywords... I find that so annoying... if they can automatically group files this might be interesting... otherwise... I prefer folders tyvm.
I prefer Dropbox to all others but I do wish they had a way to edit documents similar to Google Docs.
The lack of this feature made me create a free Google account for document and spreadsheet functionality.
No it's not, it's just a folder that automatically syncs .. not a stand alone app. Dropbox is "integrated in the finder", because it is just a "smart" folder.
From a first impression it looks like Final Cut Server in the Cloud
http://www.iamorganized.com/what_is_iao
Maybe Apple has plans to introduce Final Cut Server in the cloud.
First thing that comes to mind is Shotgun Software's Shotgun and Tank
SouthPaw Tactic is another similar tool.
http://www.iamorganized.com/what_is_iao
Maybe Apple has plans to introduce Final Cut Server in the cloud.
First thing that comes to mind is Shotgun Software's Shotgun and Tank
SouthPaw Tactic is another similar tool.
Might want to try using dropbox first before saying something like this!
Dropbox is perfectly integrated into the file system and does not interfere with anything you do.
It is seamless, safe, and easy.
It also works properly, which I cannot say for something like Google Drive.
----------
Is it just me or is that narrator's voice (accent) incredibly unusual, and somehow really irritating?? I don't normally mind accents but that one was horrible.
Exactly, tagging is the future, like in Adobe Lightroom. What if your image belongs to 2012, San Francisco, Mom, and red dress at the same time? How do you create such folder structure? Are you going to nest by date first, and then by place, or the other way around? Folders alone are very limiting. Folders should be used for rough grouping, such as Work, Music, Photography, Lifestyle. But at some point you have to start applying tags.
A good example is Webbla, a bookmark manager. It allows you to create folders based on catagories, but within each folder you organize your links by tagging them. For example, I may tag one web link as "Photography, technique, forum, landscape". That's the way you can later find anything quickly.
The problem with folders is that a file can only be located within one folder at a time when it actually could need to be associated with multiple different folders. This happens all the time. Do I put this receipt in the "2012 taxes" folder, the "Receipts" folder, or the "Client X" folder?
If you've ever used Gmail, you can see how this would work great with the way iCloud works. I love the way iCloud associates documents with the application that creates it. It makes it really easy to find your files and you save time and frustration by not having to figure out where to store them. The only downside is when you want to view files by project rather than type. It seems that applying tags to iCloud documents so you can view files in other ways would make it the best of both worlds.