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Old Feb 3, 2013, 02:27 PM   #1
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I'm just wondering what everyone is seeing with their power up times. I have an Apple SSD and a RAID 0 array with three 2TB disks and I have noticed if I select a startup volume by holding Option during boot, it probably takes around 30 seconds at least to show me the bootable volumes. I tend to think this is because of the three disks in the RAID array being scanned or perhaps because I have two SuperDrives but was just wondering if others are seeing the same thing.

It's a 2012 3.06/12.

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Old Feb 4, 2013, 01:42 AM   #2
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Here is a good one for you.. Why do the generations 1,1 - 3,1 boot up so much faster than the 2009/2010?? When I owned a 2006 Mac Pro it booted up rather quickly, same with my 2008. But my 2010 takes a bit of time to boot up and its a 6-core..

Boot up time: 4 mins/6


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I'm just wondering what everyone is seeing with their power up times. I have an Apple SSD and a RAID 0 array with three 2TB disks and I have noticed if I select a startup volume by holding Option during boot, it probably takes around 30 seconds at least to show me the bootable volumes. I tend to think this is because of the three disks in the RAID array being scanned or perhaps because I have two SuperDrives but was just wondering if others are seeing the same thing.

It's a 2012 3.06/12.

Thank you.
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 01:53 AM   #3
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Here is a good one for you.. Why do the generations 1,1 - 3,1 boot up so much faster than the 2009/2010?? When I owned a 2006 Mac Pro it booted up rather quickly, same with my 2008. But my 2010 takes a bit of time to boot up and its a 6-core..

Boot up time: 4 mins/6
Same here. My 2008 Mac Pro also boots up faster than my 2010 8 core. When I also try the pressing the option key to show the hard drives, the 2008 MP is also faster. Not sure the reasons why.
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 01:57 AM   #4
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I think my 2009 takes about 30 seconds to boot, but it has a RAID card and all drive bays filled, etc. It took longer when I had an HDD boot... I seem to recall 45 seconds or so. The SSD cut that down to about 30 seconds, but I've not timed it recently.

Four minutes is a really, really long time, and I'd imagine that has to do with some sort of conflict or problem.

I will update my post with an accurate boot time. When are you measuring? I time it from press of power button to login screen, since typing out the login password would vary from person to person, and various apps loading would also vary.
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 01:59 AM   #5
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I'm just wondering what everyone is seeing with their power up times. I have an Apple SSD and a RAID 0 array with three 2TB disks and I have noticed if I select a startup volume by holding Option during boot, it probably takes around 30 seconds at least to show me the bootable volumes. I tend to think this is because of the three disks in the RAID array being scanned or perhaps because I have two SuperDrives but was just wondering if others are seeing the same thing.

It's a 2012 3.06/12.

Thank you.
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I think my 2009 takes about 30 seconds to boot, but it has a RAID card and all drive bays filled, etc. It took longer when I had an HDD boot... I seem to recall 45 seconds or so. The SSD cut that down to about 30 seconds, but I've not timed it recently.

Four minutes is a really, really long time, and I'd imagine that has to do with some sort of conflict or problem.

I will update my post with an accurate boot time. When are you measuring? I time it from press of power button to login screen, since typing out the login password would vary from person to person, and various apps loading would also vary.
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 02:00 AM   #6
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So power on to grey Apple icon?

25 seconds from press of power button to light grey screen.
28.2 seconds from press of power button to appearance of dark grey Apple logo on light grey screen.
I stopped the timer then, but it was another perhaps ten seconds to the login screen, where I could enter my password.

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Boot drive is a Samsung 830 256GB SSD in lower ODD bay, connected to lower section of original ODD bay SATA cable.
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 03:43 AM   #7
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I will check mine and see what it does. It is not slow, but when holding down Option it is slow to display bootable volumes and this is with no USB drives or anything inserted. Sometimes I even need to so a PRAM reset for some to show up. Granted it is me tinkering so it is not a big deal, but was curious what others were seeing.

Will post my times hopefully tomorrow as it is processing some tasks tonight.
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I'm just wondering what everyone is seeing with their power up times. I have an Apple SSD and a RAID 0 array with three 2TB disks and I have noticed if I select a startup volume by holding Option during boot, it probably takes around 30 seconds at least to show me the bootable volumes. I tend to think this is because of the three disks in the RAID array being scanned or perhaps because I have two SuperDrives but was just wondering if others are seeing the same thing.

It's a 2012 3.06/12.

Thank you.
I have a 2012 Mac Mini 2.3GHz Quad i7 with the two internal Apple shipped 5200RPM 1TB drives and 8GB of ram. I just backed up using CCC to a bootable 2TB external WD Passport USB 3.0 drive and then used RAID 0 on the internal drives and copied back. My boot time from the startup "Bong" sound to the busy pointer going away in 10.8.3 is 42 seconds. From the time the grey screen appears until the busy pointer goes away is 12 seconds. XBench is reporting 251MB/sec reads and 160MB/sec writes.
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Old Apr 2, 2013, 09:31 PM   #10
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My boot time WAS quick.
I'm using a mac pro 4,1 with an intel SSD. I initially had the radeon 4870 card, but replaced it with a GTX 650. Boot time was fast with both cards---20 seconds, mabye?
I then decided I wanted to run Apple Service Diagnostic. This meant putting the 4870 back in so I could boot the ASD (which runs using Leopard).
After testing, I put the geforce 650 back in and boot time is painfully slow. About a full minute now.

I don't know if shuffling the graphic cards caused this, or if Apple Service Diagnostic testing somehow messed up the SSD. There was a hard disk test that involved testing the surface of the disks. I don't think SSD's have a 'surface', really.
The SSD works normally otherwise. Just boots slowly now. who knows?
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Old Apr 2, 2013, 10:50 PM   #11
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8-core 2.8 GHz
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Boot: RAID 0 w/ 2x Samsung 830 256GB SSDs on ODD_SATA1 and ODD_SATA2
Other: 17 rotational disks (4x SATA, 1x IDE, 9x eSATA, 2x USB, 1x FireWire)

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				    Segment                   Total
Power Button to Chime			:12			:12
Chime to Grey Screen			:03			:15
Grey Screen to Apple Logo		:14			:29
Apple Logo to Login Window	       1:13		       1:42
My MacBook Air can finish booting before the Mac Pro even chimes. I think the memory and the three PCI cards add in some delay before the machine initially chimes, and I think the large amount of storage devices has to do with the delay between the grey screen and the Apple logo appearing.
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Old Apr 2, 2013, 11:10 PM   #12
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Mine looks like:

Code:
				    Segment                   Total
Power Button to Chime			:07			:07
Chime to Grey Screen			:04			:11
Grey Screen to Apple Logo		:06			:17
Apple Logo to clickable desktop      	:24		        :41
But it can be as much as 10sec. more in total from day to day for whatever reasons. I never have to type in a password tho. I have mine set to auto-logon so it's straight to the desktop (which I would assume to be slower?).

I have 6 rotational HDDs in my system. The four in the drive bays are the Seagate ST3000DM001 three terabyte drives in a partitioned (chipset) RAID0 array and the two in the space under the ODD are the same in a (chipset) RAID0 used as a Time Machine volume. There's 32GB of ram and this is a MacPro1,1 with the 1.2 patch applied - but no 64bit EFI set yet. I'm currently on 10.7.5 Lion. Rrraaarrr! EDIT: Forgot to mention the display adaptor which is a 8800GT.

I could probably make it faster if I ever bothered to clean up the system. I've been updating and migrating (as opposed to fresh installs) the system ever since 10.4 and there's still lots of startup apps and utilities in there from my first 10.4 setup.

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