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Old Jan 31, 2013, 05:35 AM   #1
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There are links with some rumors of the possibly of a new mac pro coming in 2013?
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Old Jan 31, 2013, 05:55 AM   #2
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There are links with some rumors of the possibly of a new mac pro coming in 2013?
Here are some of our news articles detailing what is known about the forthcoming Mac Pro.

Apple's 2013 Product Roadmap Predictions: Multiple iPhones, Retina iPad Mini, All-Retina MacBook Pros

Apple Spokesperson Confirms New Mac Pro Designs Likely Coming in 2013 [Update: Not iMac]
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Old Feb 1, 2013, 02:17 PM   #3
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I sent an email to tcook regarding mac pros being discontinued in the EU a few days ago.

Today, I received a phone call from ""enterprise customer relations." I was told that Pro customers have not been abandoned and that there is something Huge to be announced end of this year. When pressed on what this Huge announcement would be, I was told it was a replacement for the current Mac Pro.


So, a big for people hoping to upgrade early this year, I guess.
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Old Feb 1, 2013, 04:53 PM   #4
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I sent an email to tcook regarding mac pros being discontinued in the EU a few days ago.

Today, I received a phone call from ""enterprise customer relations." I was told that Pro customers have not been abandoned and that there is something Huge to be announced end of this year. When pressed on what this Huge announcement would be, I was told it was a replacement for the current Mac Pro.


So, a big for people hoping to upgrade early this year, I guess.
A Mac Mini with Mini-PCIe slots?
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Old Feb 1, 2013, 06:15 PM   #6
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Perhaps a Rubik's cube of Mac Mini's taped together. Now that would be cool.
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Old Feb 1, 2013, 06:26 PM   #7
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Sure as soon as macworld claims the model is going to be discontinued (1/4/13), here comes word of the new model!
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Old Feb 2, 2013, 09:31 AM   #8
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hum ... So only new Mac Pro in 2014?!!!
EU, no Mac Pro for 12 months, without words!!
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Old Feb 2, 2013, 10:49 AM   #9
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As others pointed out before, Apple normally doesn't announce their products in advance. This only suggests that the fate of Mac Pro must have been changed more than once, and could still be reversed before the end of this year.
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Old Feb 2, 2013, 11:33 AM   #10
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There are links with some rumors of the possibly of a new mac pro coming in 2013?
This site puts substantive ones onto a thread (or at least the ones that made the front page ).

http://macpro.macrumors.com/


Some are informative and some not so much. For example, the EU Trade area discontinue isn't really indicate sooner or later arrival. The old version, even as a refurb, would be pulled from the market. It is still a notice that should be go out on a timely basis.
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Old Feb 2, 2013, 11:34 AM   #11
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I sent an email to tcook regarding mac pros being discontinued in the EU a few days ago.

Today, I received a phone call from ""enterprise customer relations." I was told that Pro customers have not been abandoned and that there is something Huge to be announced end of this year. When pressed on what this Huge announcement would be, I was told it was a replacement for the current Mac Pro.


So, a big for people hoping to upgrade early this year, I guess.
I wouldn't put too much stock in that end of the year statement. The supposedly needed Intel processors will be out the third quarter of 2013. So maybe the end of the year, maybe earlier. You just have to hope it's worth waiting for.
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 12:15 AM   #12
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I sent an email to tcook regarding mac pros being discontinued in the EU a few days ago.

Today, I received a phone call from ""enterprise customer relations." I was told that Pro customers have not been abandoned and that there is something Huge to be announced end of this year. When pressed on what this Huge announcement would be, I was told it was a replacement for the current Mac Pro.


So, a big for people hoping to upgrade early this year, I guess.
sounds like a new form factor... lets hope they don't make it in the shape of an i-pad
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 03:21 AM   #13
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Agree, I think a smaller form factor will be a part of the new mac Pro. Cooling technology and chips running cooler has been something intel has gotten a lot better at
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 04:37 AM   #14
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Agree, I think a smaller form factor will be a part of the new mac Pro. Cooling technology and chips running cooler has been something intel has gotten a lot better at
Right, but they push the high-end parts so they still have the same TDP as older ones with a third of LGA 2011 Xeons having a TDP of 115W or more. Anything that should have gone in the Mac Pro that is at least 2.7GHz is 130W TDP. The E5-2687W is 150W TDP.

I'd hope a new form factor would mean Apple offered such processors again, as they stopped on the current line back in 09.
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 09:58 AM   #15
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Right, but they push the high-end parts so they still have the same TDP as older ones with a third of LGA 2011 Xeons having a TDP of 115W or more. Anything that should have gone in the Mac Pro that is at least 2.7GHz is 130W TDP. The E5-2687W is 150W TDP.

I'd hope a new form factor would mean Apple offered such processors again, as they stopped on the current line back in 09.
That would be nice as currently we have 2 iMacs in our household. The late 2007 runs hot but I can at least touch the back of the machine. The 2010 is in pretty much the same enclosure and when I first got it thought it would set off the fire alarm or something.
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 11:21 AM   #16
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Right, but they push the high-end parts so they still have the same TDP as older ones with a third of LGA 2011 Xeons having a TDP of 115W or more. Anything that should have gone in the Mac Pro that is at least 2.7GHz is 130W TDP. The E5-2687W is 150W TDP.
Not only that the mid-upper range GPUs have gotten hotter over last 10 years. They are stabilizing now but those are now comfortably 'North' of 210W for high performance also. Two GPUs and now a substantially larger thermal problem than the CPU packages. So it isn't necessarily just about what Intel is doing. At this point designing the Mac Pro around the CPU package is a bad, or at least extremely limiting, idea. It really isn't primarily about the CPU cores anymore.


Besides storage drives there has been no gradual decrease in performance CPU+GPU packages. There are likely some "inches" ( in height or depth) they could make with some juggling, but the same (if not more ) general forces requiring cooling and low levels of sound generation are still present.

'Size' isn't likely as large a change as mutations to the socket and expansion bays. Nuking 5.25" bay (or bays ). Questioning only 3.5" HDD bays. Whether to join the embedded GPU club with the rest of the Mac line up are far more likely game changers. Those don't necessarily impact the overall size much.
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 07:48 PM   #17
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Is it the 1st time that apple announce they stop a product and release the new model some mounths after? Because in the actual case that they stop suply the Europe, I really feel bad about that news..
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 12:40 AM   #18
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Given what has happened in Europe and Eastern Europe with the Mac Pro I would have to say the Mac Pro's days might be numbered.. We simply don't know what Tim Cook and company will bring out for us Mac Pro users, but I do believe it will be some kind of remake or some kind of combination imac and mac pro(iMac Pro or something).

A new case design might be also in the works.. Again, all this is speculation.
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 01:41 AM   #19
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Grand Central Dispatch & Open CL

Surely the new pro will be tailored to exploit the unfullfilled promises of grand central dispatch & open cl. I remember this was touted quite loudly at the time yet we have seen no real implementation as yet.
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If they were to really discontinue the Mac Pro lineup, why do it in stages i.e. Europe, Asia, US etc? Surely thats asking for public bashing... you'd rather just do it the once and thats it.

I guess it is genuinely down to the European laws and that there is some sort of replacement / refresh coming to the Mac Pros later down the line.
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I am really surprised that someone told you that. Had Steve Jobs been around you would never have gotten that kind of an answer, as everything was secret in terms of new product coming out.

Well, if this is TRUE from what enterprise customer relations said, then the WRITING is on the wall already. The Mac Pro is dying.. to be replaced by something "wonderful".. I am betting that its going to be a hybrid iMac/Mac Mini or Mac Mini Pro.. Again, I am not speculating at the moment and I have more important things to worry about at this point.

All I can say is the writing is indeed on the wall - should this call be true.

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I sent an email to tcook regarding mac pros being discontinued in the EU a few days ago.

Today, I received a phone call from ""enterprise customer relations." I was told that Pro customers have not been abandoned and that there is something Huge to be announced end of this year. When pressed on what this Huge announcement would be, I was told it was a replacement for the current Mac Pro.


So, a big for people hoping to upgrade early this year, I guess.
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 02:24 PM   #22
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Announcement by the END OF THE YEAR ??????

Been hearing this since 2008. Everything since 2008 has been very small improvements, not worth me spending 4-6K over my obsolete 2008 which is still running strong and running my business. If this was a car it would have 650,000 miles on it.

Apple has been Pi$$ing on Desktops since 2008.
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Apple has been Pi$$ing on Desktops since 2008.
Respectfully disagree. The 5,1 offers so much more potential (esp when going aftermarket for chips, and putting in more than 32gigs ram).

Same goes for 4,1 after a firmware flash and some fun with washers/thermal padding (which i'll be doing soon enough).

My 3,1 couldn't keep up - not that it's a bad machine or remotely out of date.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 01:56 PM   #24
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Just had a terrible thought

Is something "huge" a cluster cloud computing type deal? My files are huge and fiber or t1 is more than my rent
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Surely the new pro will be tailored to exploit the unfullfilled promises of grand central dispatch & open cl. I remember this was touted quite loudly at the time yet we have seen no real implementation as yet.
No implementation besides FCPX ?

" ... It's important to check the graphics card that you have in your Mac and ensure it supports OpenCL before attempting to install Final Cut Pro X, Motion 5, and Compressor 4. ... "
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4664

Very likely if there is a LogicX it too will have OpenCL and GCD elements to it.

The more mature integration between OpenCL and GCD didn't appear until 10.7. With 10.9 around the corner a minimal OS level of 10.7 probably start to pop up.

However, GCD and OpenCL are not just useful for Mac Pros. Quad cores and GPGPU mobile GPUs can leverage them also. Making these technologies mainstream and useful on all Mac will come back and perhaps help the Mac Pro.
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