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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:14 PM   #26
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I hope that's enough for apple to consider adding the features to iOS that most of us are jailbreaking for. iOS 6 was such a lackluster update it really is time for a change.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:14 PM   #27
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Yes. It's good news. But it also fortifies the the idea that although iOS might be slick/great/stable/etc - it's lacking (enough) that significant userbase wants more than Apple has given - even after several versions.

And again - I agree that this is "good" news for Apple overall - you have to also wonder if there are this many jailbreaking - how many are leaving and/or choosing Android over iOS because of shortcomings that can only be realized via jailbreaking.

I pose that as a question - not commentary.
I'm one! Love Apple hardware, but love the pure android software on my Nexus 4 more. I'm sure there are many others.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:15 PM   #28
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And people say that the amount of people who Jailbreak is negliable...
With something like 500 million iOS devices out there, jailbreakers account for less than 1% of all users.

Don't get me wrong - it's still millions of people, so it's a real phenomenon and it's here to stay. But it's never going to represent a substantial proportion of users.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:15 PM   #29
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And people say that the amount of people who Jailbreak is negliable...
Well it is, compared to the total sales/installs of iOS 6.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:16 PM   #30
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They didn't need to wait. They can get a Nexus 4!
Thats a hard phone to get.


But ultimately yeah they want to do what Android does. I certainly like best of both worlds.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:17 PM   #31
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Well it is, compared to the total sales/installs of iOS 6.
Compared to - perhaps. But close to 2M installs - Since yesterday? That's significant no matter how you slice it.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:18 PM   #32
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And people say that the amount of people who Jailbreak is negliable...
1.7 million... compared to how many iPhones and iPads out in the world?

A couple hundred million?

I'm glad the jailbreak exists... but let's be clear on the definition of "negligible"
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:19 PM   #33
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See the numbers in 6 months

They'll be lucky to be at 2 million.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:20 PM   #34
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They didn't need to wait. They can get a Nexus 4!
by the time u get hold of the 4 u might as well wait for the 5th
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:22 PM   #35
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1.7 million... compared to how many iPhones and iPads out in the world?

A couple hundred million?

I'm glad the jailbreak exists... but let's be clear on the definition of "negligible"
Stop comparing and just look at the number. People are simple stating that 1.7M people jailbreaking is significant. And it is. On what planet does nearly 2M installs in ONE DAY not constitute a significant install base?

There are phones out there that don't even sell that many in total.

Yes - by comparison - vs the # of sold iPhones it's not HUGE. But you also have to remember what % of owners could give two craps in general (IE own an iPhone because its an iPhone) vs those that are more "hardcore"
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:23 PM   #36
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And people say that the amount of people who Jailbreak is negliable...
Out of 200 million+ devices. That's still pretty small.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:23 PM   #37
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Stop comparing and just look at the number. People are simple stating that 1.7M people jailbreaking is significant. And it is. On what planet does nearly 2M installs in ONE DAY not constitute a significant install base?

There are phones out there that don't even sell that many in total.

Yes - by comparison - vs the # of sold iPhones it's not HUGE. But you also have to remember what % of owners could give two craps in general (IE own an iPhone because its an iPhone) vs those that are more "hardcore"
In other words it's a "niche" right ?
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:24 PM   #38
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Stop comparing and just look at the number. People are simple stating that 1.7M people jailbreaking is significant. And it is. On what planet does nearly 2M installs in ONE DAY not constitute a significant install base?

There are phones out there that don't even sell that many in total.

Yes - by comparison - vs the # of sold iPhones it's not HUGE. But you also have to remember what % of owners could give two craps in general (IE own an iPhone because its an iPhone) vs those that are more "hardcore"
Buddy is just arguing to argue.


Many people have iPhones & ipads and don't care about jailbreaking like my sister and mother. Its a high number, he just wants to argue.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:26 PM   #39
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Serious question...why is it awesome that some people care about jailbreaking?

I don't care one way or the other whether folks jailbreak...that's their business.

I'm just curious why you think it's "awesome"...a wonderful thing to do?
Cant speak for the op, and I haven't jailbroken any of my devices yet (I will jb my aTV3 when possible).... but imo it's good to see that consumers have options and some measure of autonomy/liberty form Apple's control-freak practices. And that goes for any product or service purchased form any company or corporation - specially hardware.

cheers!
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:27 PM   #41
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1.7 million... compared to how many iPhones and iPads out in the world?

A couple hundred million?

I'm glad the jailbreak exists... but let's be clear on the definition of "negligible"
That’s about 0.5% then. It doesn’t sound significant, but it kinda is... 0.5% of iDevices have installed a jailbreak in a FEW DAYS. Remember that people are still jailbreaking as we speak, too, so 1.7m is not the final figure.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:28 PM   #42
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Serious question...why is it awesome that some people care about jailbreaking?

I don't care one way or the other whether folks jailbreak...that's their business.

I'm just curious why you think it's "awesome"...a wonderful thing to do?
It's awesome that people still care about jailbreaking, because the jailbreak scene was slowly dying up until this point. The resounding success and popularity that the launch of this evasi0n tool has shown (finally) proves that jailbreaking is as popular as ever, and that's awesome. The community lives on, for now.

And with regards to why jailbreaking is "a wonderful thing to do" - whilst I'm positive that you're not being pedantic or nescient on purpose, I'm sure you already know.

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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:31 PM   #43
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This certainly represents a lot of pent up demand.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:32 PM   #44
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I hope that's enough for apple to consider adding the features to iOS that most of us are jailbreaking for.
Some they will. And they will ignore that it ever existed before. They will announce how amazing and magical these new additions are while also claiming that Apple waited until they could do it RIGHT instead of just adding it "willy nilly."
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:32 PM   #45
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Auxo is a really cool tweak, though I wish it had Do Not Disturb and LTE toggles on it.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:33 PM   #46
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Stop comparing and just look at the number. People are simple stating that 1.7M people jailbreaking is significant. And it is. On what planet does nearly 2M installs in ONE DAY not constitute a significant install base?

There are phones out there that don't even sell that many in total.

Yes - by comparison - vs the # of sold iPhones it's not HUGE. But you also have to remember what % of owners could give two craps in general (IE own an iPhone because its an iPhone) vs those that are more "hardcore"
Hardcore would be compiling a custom kernel from source. Double clicking a link to jailbreak your phone...ehhh not so much.

I'm still wondering why people who are "hardcore" jailbrakers don't just go to Android. It's like buying a Mac and installing Linux on it so none of the printer drivers work and you have to tweak your video driver every two days to compensate for the idiot who wrote the original code in his spare time in his underwear and didn't get it all right. But it's "hardcore." 1.7 million people and counting are taking an expensive device that was designed to work, and making them flaky and easy to brick.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:33 PM   #47
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I've never understood why you would take one of the most stable OS's in history and make it unstable and less secure.

But to each his own, as they say.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 02:34 PM   #49
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Serious question...why is it awesome that some people care about jailbreaking?

I don't care one way or the other whether folks jailbreak...that's their business.

I'm just curious why you think it's "awesome"...a wonderful thing to do?
More people do it = More support for it.
More support for it = More tweaks that come out faster and are better.
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...and AAPL is up $17 (3.8%) today.
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