Apple Seeds Build 12D65 of OS X Beta 10.8.3 to Developers

[walfrieda]

does it finally fix the "spotlight keeps indexing" bug and the high power consumption (low battery life)???

[vajon]

Originally Posted by Sky Blue

The never ending beta.

It will come out after OS X 10.9

[SlCKB0Y]

Originally Posted by thatsfinebut

The only bug I care about is one that happens when I use Transmit and Textwrangler. If I open a file off an FTP server, edit it and save it, I have to quit Textwrangler before opening another file from Transmit. If I forget to quite Textwrangler, Transmit freezes. This is a bug that started happening when 10.8.2 was released.

Textwrangler has a builtin in FTP and SFTP functions, try using that. It has streamlined my work considerably.

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Originally Posted by thatsfinebut

I hope that after they release 10.8.3, they release an update to Bootcamp so I can install Windows 8 (with full support).

10.8.3 beta already has support for Windows 8 in Bootcamp... doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by BRLawyer

I have the feeling that this long-awaited 10.8.3 is gonna cause MORE problems than what it purports to fix...

Based on what? A long beta period (with lots of iterations) like this is usually a good thing.

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Originally Posted by noiseordinance

clunkier Chrome as my browser of choice.

Clunkier? I guess that's why Safari, Firefox and IE have all completely ripped off the uncluttered and simplified Chrome UI then?

[WM.]

Originally Posted by thatsfinebut

The only bug I care about is one that happens when I use Transmit and Textwrangler. If I open a file off an FTP server, edit it and save it, I have to quit Textwrangler before opening another file from Transmit. If I forget to quite Textwrangler, Transmit freezes. This is a bug that started happening when 10.8.2 was released, and both Panic and Barebones have said it's up to Apple to fix it. It's made work much less efficient for me because if I want to edit a CSS file and multiple HTML files, I have to do work on one, save and close it, open the other, save and close it, and go back and forth. It's a horrible waste of time.

I have the same problem with Transmit + SubEthaEdit. I suspected it was an OS bug, but hadn't gotten around to confirming with the developers. Glad you did.

So, add me to the list of people hoping this is fixed in 10.8.3!

[Futurix]

Hopefully this is the final beta - surely they will want to release this ASAP because of the File:// bug?

[JGRE]

Originally Posted by Yamcha

Wonder If this will be the last 10.8 update till OSX 10.9 is released?

If they take as much time for 10.8.4. as they did for 10.8.3, this is a certainty

[noiseordinance]

Originally Posted by sshhoott

If you want to file a bug report:

https://bugreport.apple.com/

I've called Apple numerous times, filed reports, and have participated in many threads regarding these issues on the Apple support website. They've "been aware of these issues" since September. They obviously have more important agendas.

[Pentad]

Originally Posted by thatsfinebut

The only bug I care about is one that happens when I use Transmit and Textwrangler. If I open a file off an FTP server, edit it and save it, I have to quit Textwrangler before opening another file from Transmit. If I forget to quite Textwrangler, Transmit freezes. This is a bug that started happening when 10.8.2 was released, and both Panic and Barebones have said it's up to Apple to fix it. It's made work much less efficient for me because if I want to edit a CSS file and multiple HTML files, I have to do work on one, save and close it, open the other, save and close it, and go back and forth. It's a horrible waste of time.

Have you tried FileZilla instead of Transmit? I use TextWrangler and FileZilla all the time and they play well together.


-P

[Krazy Bill]

Originally Posted by Yamcha

Wonder If this will be the last 10.8 update till OSX 10.9 is released?

That's my guess. They want to get 10.8 as stable as they can before dedicating all their resources to 10.9.0.

Might see a minor 10.8.4 release after 10.9 is out though.

[milo]

Originally Posted by DJJAZZYJET

this must be the last beta before release

Not necessarily. People have said that for the last three or four releases.

Originally Posted by Yamcha

Wonder If this will be the last 10.8 update till OSX 10.9 is released?

In the past, the last update has been around the time of public release of the next major update. They haven't even announced 10.9 or started external betas, so assuming they do what they have done in the past, there should be at least one more. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up at 10.8.5 since we're months away from 10.9 release.

[thomaskc]

I don't know if this is common knowledge by now but this is basically what apple lists 10.8.3 will fix (when installing 12D65):

"The 10.8.3 update is recommended for all OS X Mountain Lion users and includes features and fixes that improve the stability, compatibility, and security of your Mac, including the following:
• The ability to redeem iTunes gift cards in the Mac App Store using your Mac's built-in camera
• Boot Camp support for installing Windows 8
• Boot Camp support for Macs with a 3TB hard drive
• A fix for an issue that may cause Logic Pro to become unresponsive when using certain plug-ins
• A fix for an issue that may cause audio to stutter on 2011 iMacs
• Includes Safari 6.0.3"

[81Steven]

Originally Posted by thomaskc

I don't know if this is common knowledge by now but this is basically what apple lists 10.8.3 will fix (when installing 12D65):

"The 10.8.3 update is recommended for all OS X Mountain Lion users and includes features and fixes that improve the stability, compatibility, and security of your Mac, including the following:
• The ability to redeem iTunes gift cards in the Mac App Store using your Mac's built-in camera
• Boot Camp support for installing Windows 8
• Boot Camp support for Macs with a 3TB hard drive
• A fix for an issue that may cause Logic Pro to become unresponsive when using certain plug-ins
• A fix for an issue that may cause audio to stutter on 2011 iMacs
• Includes Safari 6.0.3"

Are these mentioned only in the installer? there is a screenshot of these 2 features?

[thomaskc]

Originally Posted by 81Steven

Are these mentioned only in the installer? there is a screenshot of these 2 features?

I took a screenshot of the installer:

[81Steven]

[Peace]

Keep in mind you won't be able to download the windows drivers until 10.8.3 has been released.

[vea1083]

Originally Posted by thomaskc

I took a screenshot of the installer:

Image

How big is the Combo Update if you mind asking? I will be using this update for my MacBook Pro running 10.8.2 (12C60).

Thanks...

[Swiss-G]

Originally Posted by vea1083

how big is the combo update if you mind asking? I will be using this update for my macbook pro running 10.8.2 (12c60).

Thanks...

854 mb

[Sankersizzle]

Originally Posted by noiseordinance

I hate to say it, but "this". Safari is a damn wreck. On the 4 rMBPs I've used, all four have the gif anomalie above, as well as wrecked CSS rendering on many websites, and going back a page yields a white screen. It's so bad that I use the slower, clunkier Chrome as my browser of choice. The thing is, internet browsing comprises the vast majority of people's computer usage, so why these problems still exist is beyond me. I have a hard time caring about slow boot times when I currently find web browsing to be more fun on my phone than on this $2k machine.

Don't even get me started on the CSS rendering in Safari. Things jumping around the page and disappearing as if a tiny poltergeist has climbed inside my computer and is having a fit. You think a program like Safari, which after a few hours of browsing takes up 2GB of RAM would at least be able to render the things I wish to look at correctly.

My main problem is that there is just no alternative that stacks up to Safari on a Mac. When I had a PC, I loved me some Opera, but not so much on the Mac. Now I have to just sit there and suffer random anomalies and page breaks.

[walfrieda]

could anyone comment on my question whether 10.8.3 fixes the "spotlight keeps indexing" bug and the high power consumption (low battery life)?

[chrfr]

Originally Posted by walfrieda

could anyone comment on my question whether 10.8.3 fixes the "spotlight keeps indexing" bug and the high power consumption (low battery life)?

I haven't had either with any version of 10.8. Are you sure these are universal bugs?

[walfrieda]

Originally Posted by chrfr

I haven't had either with any version of 10.8. Are you sure these are universal bugs?

Yes, these are two of the most prominent "universal" bugs - the Apple forums are full of people having these issues. The high power consumption already started with 10.8.0 (I instantly "lost" two hours of battery life the very moment I installed 10.8.0), the spotlight indexing problem started with 10.8.2 and is caused by problems with sandboxing - which, by the way, causes many other problems that you can see in Console.

[BRLawyer]

Originally Posted by SlCKB0Y

Based on what? A long beta period (with lots of iterations) like this is usually a good thing.[COLOR="#808080"]

Your logic is perfectly right.

The problem I am predicting is as follows: with such a long beta period and a huge file, they will surely fix a LOT of previously-reported bugs. But also create a LOT of new, otherwise unknown ones...wait and see.

[vea1083]

Originally Posted by Swiss-G

854 mb

Thanks for the info Swiss-G.

On the other hand I predict that we might see the builds reaching the high 60s or even somewhere in the 70s.

[ghosthaunt11]

Originally Posted by thatsfinebut

I hope that after they release 10.8.3, they release an update to Bootcamp so I can install Windows 8 (with full support).

Why do you want to install Windows 8? It's as bad as Vista if not worse.

By the way, does anyone actually KNOW if this is the final beta before public release? I hope that this is the final beta because we've all had to wait a LOOOOONG time to update. As of now, we're still stuck with 10.8.2. At least that probably means that a whole bunch of bugs have been fixed and the OS will be a lot more stable (hopefully). We know that they fixed the "file" bug, which was critical. When I first heard of that bug, I tried it out on my MacBook Pro and sure enough, the app did crash. However, I don't care about that bug since I never need to type that. It is still a good idea to fix it, though.

[milo]

Nobody knows either way, although we're at a point where any of these builds could be the last one. Obviously they want to get it out as soon as they can, but the flip side is if they do more builds it should mean more bugs fixed.