How is it trying to be a laptop? They give you the option to use a physical keyboard and last I checked so did the ipad. It's a tablet.
So most tablets have 4-4.5 hour batty life?
How is it trying to be a laptop? They give you the option to use a physical keyboard and last I checked so did the ipad. It's a tablet.
Funny, someone just in this thread said that running full windows made it a "trying to be a laptop" so I guess that is why people are saying that.
So having the option to be able to do something even if it isn't perfectly implemented yet is better than not having the option at all. In case you missed it Apple is the former there. Again the mentality that someone must dictate to you how you HAVE to use your device so you can pigeonhole it in a role. I bet you also believe government should control every aspect of your life too.
Don't like the 'dinky' touch pad you have, again, the option to plug in a mouse but it's not a huge problem since ribbon can easily sized for touch. Office will get updated for modern UI.
It's a tablet but you have the option to allow it to fit individual use cases. It even being a "portable desktop" isn't a problem as long as you understand the limitations going in. But please continue putting labels on everything to pigeon hole them into roles.
Much as I love my iPad for leisurely browsing, when it comes to "work," I want the benefit of a keyboard. If you add a keyboard to a tablet, you pretty much have a laptop, just in 2 pieces... so when it comes down to it, when work needs to get done, I don't want a Surface and I don't want an iPad, give me a laptop every time.
So let me get this straight, you are defending Microsoft's actions of releasing products that are not complete? Would you buy a car and then let the manufacturer put the brakes on later? If I'm buying something, I better get my money's worth from day 1 - that's why I, and many others, stick with Apple.
What are Enterprise Information Workers? Are these IT employees?
What are Enterprise Information Workers? Are these IT employees?
Alternate headline:
Microsoft Tablets Well Received by Those Who Have Not Used Them
Again, full support for full keyboard and mouse. Is the touch cover the best keyboard out there? No, but neither is any onscreen keyboard (the touch cover is a step above OS keyboards). So is Apple's OS keyboard a "passable interface" in that it's not best best way to input text? Your logic here not mine. In the end I can use my Ducky with it so end of story there.
Reviews who are spending a day with it and testing everything weather it fits their use case or not. You can 100% use the Surface without the touch cover but you can't do a review without one since again, they're testing everything. If you use it like every other tablet you'll never leave the modern UI and as more apps are updated for modern UI this will become a smaller and smaller problem.
Did you ever use OS X 10.0 or 10.1?
It's funny how all of you Apple sheep are bashing the Surface. It is, without a doubt, much more usable than an iPad in a business environment. Get your head out of the clouds.
So let me get this straight, you are defending Microsoft's actions of releasing products that are not complete? Would you buy a car and then let the manufacturer put the brakes on later? If I'm buying something, I better get my money's worth from day 1 - that's why I, and many others, stick with Apple.
The iPad supports keyboard input as well, losing nothing to the Surface for long spans of text input, and it's interface is *fully* designed around touch, eliminating the need for a mouse completely.
Yes. They worked fine for me.
What didn't for you?
This is really pathetic. Have any of you used a Surface? I have and it's a joke. Even people who get them for free don't like them.
You must be one of the lucky few. For me those releases were ridiculously slow, unstable and seriously lacking in features.
Unless you like beta testing, OS X was not usable until 10.2.
Surface is fantastic, and the limitations of RT make me want to get a Pro one, so they have the sales plan pretty well worked out .
That said, the weight, battery life and lack of fan in Surface RT are really nice advantages, and one can do a lot with just the Office apps, which work really nicely with touch thanks; I just don't see what people mean about it not being suited to that interface ... on the contrary the main effect of using Windows like that is that I keep trying to touch every other damn machine I use.
I have never understood the use case of an iPad, and neither OS X since Lion; IMO it would have been better to have OS X on a tablet, surely Surface shows that pretty well, whereas instead Apple has itself a bit stuck with a non-productivity OS on the device line for the future, and I can't see them ever doing a Mac with a touchscreen - which if they did would likely be the Windows machine of choice .. so it really is a shame.
Yep. I do.
Classic was always available.
So most tablets have 4-4.5 hour batty life?
I'm just going to take a guess that you don't use any sort of windows in a business environment. I am also going to guess that you have never actually used a surface or Windows 8 for any period of time beyond playing with one at a mall kiosk.It's funny how all of you Apple sheep are bashing the Surface. It is, without a doubt, much more usable than an iPad in a business environment. Get your head out of the clouds.
Based on my experience with windows 8, I can say that Microsoft has made a huge error in judgement. I believe that windows 8/RT will be their worst failure to date. The UI is full of basic usability mistakes that will alienate but novices and professionals alike. The only people who "love" the metro UI are microsofties and fanboys. If I have not made myself clear yet, I HATE the metro UI. I also HATE ribbons found in Office and the new explorer in Windows 8. Nobody at Microsoft seems to have asked or cared what professionals wanted or needed and only listen to "yes" men from Windows fanboy sites.
That's funny, because ribbons are the devil to me (as a developer) and the technical writer on our team precisely because they require exploration and discovery which makes it hard to find something unless if you remember where you last found it. In other words, a lot of time is wasted searching for a feature that is often categorized with unrelated items.You've got too much opinion going on being masqueraded as fact. I can't deny your experience, but I can deny your experience makes you completely objective on all things UI.
Like the ribbon. I've never understood the ire some people have for it. See, I hate nested menus. Think they're of the devil. It doesn't lend itself well to exploration and discovery, and makes it hard to find something unless you're specifically looking for it.
That's funny, because ribbons are the devil to me (as a developer) and the technical writer on our team precisely because they require exploration and discovery which makes it hard to find something unless if you remember where you last found it. In other words, a lot of time is wasted searching for a feature that is often categorized with unrelated items.
The thing I liked about the menus was that I could usually quickly find what I was looking for by looking under the logical grouping of the menu and submenu names. I also liked the fact that the keyboard shortcuts appeared by the menu items. That organization lends itself to muscle memory and a quick "binary" search by eliminating categories by the menu and submenu names when you are searching for a feature for the first time.
Before I started working on application server services, I used to be a web developer. One of the cardinal rules I had was that you should not change the UI of your product for the sake of change and try not to introduce unnecessary changes in workflow when updating a product especially if it was customer facing. The reason for this is that abrupt changes in the UI destroy muscle memory for the user and cause a need to relearn the workflow again. I also applied similar rules to changing windows form applications.
I also dislike the ribbon. It might be okay if I could customize it, like we used to be able to do with the Toolbar in older versions of Office. I created a custom Toolbar containing all the commands that *I* use frequently, and it has considerably sped up my workflow. But the last time I checked, the ribbon wasn't user customizable (do let me know if this has changed!).