Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Feb 11, 2013, 10:22 PM   #51
Michael Scrip
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NC
Quote:
Originally Posted by PassiveSmoking View Post

Do you remember the times when Apple keynotes where all about new products and services and not about how much money they were raking in?

Those were good times. I miss those times.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AidenShaw View Post

Those times are dead.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRLawyer View Post

Indeed they are.
Apple still has product keynotes... a few of them every year. And they do spend more time talking about the products.

Tomorrow's event is not an Apple keynote.

It's a Goldman Sachs event that Tim was asked to speak at.
Michael Scrip is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 11, 2013, 10:32 PM   #52
53kyle
macrumors 6502a
 
53kyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: California
I wonder if there will be anything about OS X 10.9 tomorrow, it is about that time of the year...and If I remember right, apple announcements are usually on tuesdays and fridays...I think. Either way, OS X now days has no real announcement anymore for the first appearance of it.
__________________
 13" MacBook Pro, 2.9 GHz i7, 8 GB RAM, 750 GB;
 Mac Mini, 1.42 GHz PPC G4, 1 GB RAM, 80 GB;
 White iPad 3, WiFi + 4G LTE, 64 GB;
 Red iPod Touch 5th Gen, 32 GB;
53kyle is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 11, 2013, 11:02 PM   #53
jvmxtra
macrumors 65816
 
jvmxtra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Biggest mistake of Steve was to put Tim Cook in charge of apple.
He has no interest in making apple the best creative company in the world. He was suppose to be logistic genius but even that he's been failing at it. I think ever since he became CEO, he is too busy trying to make lot of people happy and not realizing that he's pissing off lot of loyal customer.
__________________
--still apple fan but it's getting difficult...
jvmxtra is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2013, 01:17 AM   #54
syd430
Guest
 
Only opened the comments to get a laugh, knowing it was going to just be one big anti-Wall Street circle jerk
  0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2013, 03:20 AM   #55
Szarky
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by jvmxtra View Post
Biggest mistake of Steve was to put Tim Cook in charge of apple.
He has no interest in making apple the best creative company in the world. He was suppose to be logistic genius but even that he's been failing at it. I think ever since he became CEO, he is too busy trying to make lot of people happy and not realizing that he's pissing off lot of loyal customer.
Please stop talking like you have any idea what a complicated position Tim Cook must be in to be running such a powerful company. I love how people think that since they're up on their Apple blog news they know the status of how the company is being run. Let's face it, we don't know ****, we all are just smart asses aren't we with "if I was in charge, I would do it this way" attitudes. There's so much that goes on behind the scenes that is never released to the public.
Szarky is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2013, 05:22 AM   #56
GermanyChris
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Here
Quote:
Originally Posted by syd430 View Post
Only opened the comments to get a laugh, knowing it was going to just be one big anti-Wall Street circle jerk
yup now if we could just get DC to be more anti Wall street the world would be much a much better place.
GermanyChris is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2013, 05:54 AM   #57
syd430
Guest
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GermanyChris View Post
yup now if we could just get DC to be more anti Wall street the world would be much a much better place.
If you insist on disbanding Wall Street, just make sure you personally make up the shortfall to the state's coffers with all the tax revenue that they will no longer be getting (or the thousands of affluent people that these firms employ, who incidendently also contribute a huge amount to tax revenue).
  0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2013, 06:25 AM   #58
GermanyChris
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Here
Quote:
Originally Posted by syd430 View Post
If you insist on disbanding Wall Street, just make sure you personally make up the shortfall to the state's coffers with all the tax revenue that they will no longer be getting (or the thousands of affluent people that these firms employ, who incidendently also contribute a huge amount to tax revenue).
There cas capital before the current iteration of wall street there will be capital after.

The problem with the If wall street goes corporations will shut down, it that it won't happen. Business manage to stay open before the unregulated corporations as people world we currently have and will continue on. Second Corporations through the push to constant growth even though it's not realistic have pushed most productive jobs that actually increase GDP overseas.

The current Wall street is not what Alexander Hamilton envisioned. His idea was long term sustainable institutions. He provided this by given them a central location to sell debt. Nothing on wall street is long tern or sustainable as 2008 showed us
GermanyChris is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2013, 07:08 AM   #59
Rogifan
macrumors 604
 
Rogifan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post
Apple still has product keynotes... a few of them every year. And they do spend more time talking about the products.

Tomorrow's event is not an Apple keynote.

It's a Goldman Sachs event that Tim was asked to speak at.
I'm still waiting for a list of the keynotes where Cook et al focused on profits over products. Have a feeling I'll be waiting a while...
__________________
"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley, Jr.
Rogifan is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2013, 07:37 AM   #60
the8thark
macrumors 68030
 
the8thark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by NT1440 View Post
People forget that on its own just the iPhone constitutes an industry that is bigger than Coca-Cola!
People also forget that the Mac on it's own is a fortune 500 company.
__________________
Congress shall make no law . . . prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.
the8thark is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2013, 08:03 AM   #61
Datalinks
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Tim may be an excellent CEO and a really nice person but Apple needs a visionary...that's what worries the markets..
Datalinks is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2013, 08:28 AM   #62
Saladinos
macrumors 68000
 
Saladinos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by GermanyChris View Post
There cas capital before the current iteration of wall street there will be capital after.

The problem with the If wall street goes corporations will shut down, it that it won't happen. Business manage to stay open before the unregulated corporations as people world we currently have and will continue on. Second Corporations through the push to constant growth even though it's not realistic have pushed most productive jobs that actually increase GDP overseas.

The current Wall street is not what Alexander Hamilton envisioned. His idea was long term sustainable institutions. He provided this by given them a central location to sell debt. Nothing on wall street is long tern or sustainable as 2008 showed us
These days it has sod-all to do with sustainable institutions: it's all about using algorithms to make obscene amounts of cash for those that have buckets full of it already.

It's bad for the world.

----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post
Apple still has product keynotes... a few of them every year. And they do spend more time talking about the products.

Tomorrow's event is not an Apple keynote.

It's a Goldman Sachs event that Tim was asked to speak at.
Steve wouldn't have. That's one of the things I liked about him.
Saladinos is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2013, 09:03 AM   #63
Rocketman
macrumors 603
 
Rocketman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Claremont, CA
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtbgtr View Post
Bad stuff the government caused? REALLY?
I am not going to go all political on you but, repeal of Glass-Steigel during Clinton, the low income housing act installed under Clinton but really accelerated under Bush 43, and the little known decrease in the margin requirement for investment banks (to 50 from 20 IIRC) and commercial banks (to 15 from 8 IIRC) after 9/11/01 Bush 43. It was a liquidity policy. A housing policy. This in no way means I disagree with you on GS.

However Apple in particular has determined the proper policy in this environment is to hoard cash (actually short term and intermediate term securities, not literally a money market fund), and I agree with that as well. Whatever disaster happens next, Apple will be positioned to survive it and exploit it. That makes me feel comfy. Apple's astounding growth happened DURING the "great recession" in the USA and the turmoil in EU. Come on, that's cool and amazing! One might even say magical.

Rocketman

I will look forward to seeing a transcript of the audio. Some very interesting tidbits in that presentation.
__________________
Think Different-ly!
All R House jobs bills die in D Senate. Buy a model rocket here: http://v-serv.com/usr/instaship-visual.htm Thanks.

Last edited by Rocketman; Feb 12, 2013 at 10:21 AM.
Rocketman is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 12, 2013, 12:08 PM   #64
jvmxtra
macrumors 65816
 
jvmxtra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Szarky View Post
Please stop talking like you have any idea what a complicated position Tim Cook must be in to be running such a powerful company. I love how people think that since they're up on their Apple blog news they know the status of how the company is being run. Let's face it, we don't know ****, we all are just smart asses aren't we with "if I was in charge, I would do it this way" attitudes. There's so much that goes on behind the scenes that is never released to the public.
Right we don't know anything. However, losing quarter of company's value is one big huge indication that he's not doing his job. Sometimes, when you concentrate on the profit instead of building best products, it will do this to you.
Let's face it. Iphone development has been in funk since iphone 4. Their biggest new feature was and still is "beta" siri which most people just ignore.
There are many simliar droid phones by many companies. There is a reason why samsung sells more than other droid company. They just make good looking phones and hardware. This seems like obvious defeat to me. Don't you think so? Perhaps thinking like this(where you say let's give apple a pass since we don't know what's going on) is what's killing the company apple. They think things are still awesome and dandy. People are not that impressed.

Oh, I know how apple is ran w/ iphone.. "let's not make any change since people will still buy whatever we put out..".. i won't buy iphone 5s

----------

If ipad mini didn't give them enough indication that there WILL be a huge demand for bigger device(bigger iphone), their stock will go down even more.. I think apple must know this by now.
__________________
--still apple fan but it's getting difficult...
jvmxtra is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 13, 2013, 06:12 AM   #65
Rocketman
macrumors 603
 
Rocketman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Claremont, CA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
While he is on the East coast he is also going to sit with Mrs. Obama during the SOTU address.

Rocketman
2-11-13 1:28pm Pacific.

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/12/...union-address/

2-12-13 6:38pm Pacific
__________________
Think Different-ly!
All R House jobs bills die in D Senate. Buy a model rocket here: http://v-serv.com/usr/instaship-visual.htm Thanks.
Rocketman is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:24 PM   #66
mtbgtr
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
I am not going to go all political on you but, repeal of Glass-Steigel during Clinton, the low income housing act installed under Clinton but really accelerated under Bush 43, and the little known decrease in the margin requirement for investment banks (to 50 from 20 IIRC) and commercial banks (to 15 from 8 IIRC) after 9/11/01 Bush 43. It was a liquidity policy. A housing policy. This in no way means I disagree with you on GS.
I agree with you on Glass-Steigel but the gov't didn't create the housing bubble, they enabled it. The banks created it, the gov't was paid off to ignore it, while they were all hedging against it.
mtbgtr is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 14, 2013, 10:32 AM   #67
Rocketman
macrumors 603
 
Rocketman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Claremont, CA
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtbgtr View Post
the gov't didn't create the housing bubble, they enabled it
semantics
__________________
Think Different-ly!
All R House jobs bills die in D Senate. Buy a model rocket here: http://v-serv.com/usr/instaship-visual.htm Thanks.
Rocketman is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:23 PM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC