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Old Feb 9, 2013, 05:25 PM   #26
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Great. You pay $600+ for a phone and you have to install a new OS and root it to make it work right... Great value...
Kinda like people going nuts over jailbreaking iOS to do things Android does outta the box.
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Old Feb 9, 2013, 05:32 PM   #27
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Kinda like people going nuts over jailbreaking iOS to do things Android does outta the box.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 09:44 AM   #28
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And typing... Don't even get me started on the iOS keyboard.
What gobsmacks me, is that the iOS keyboard doesn't change the alpha key letter case when you change mode from upper to lower case.

Unlike almost every other touch keyboard on the planet, the iOS keyboard ALWAYS uses uppercase on its letter keys.

Sometimes I wonder if there's a patent license involved.

Or maybe it's just a weird tribute to the original Apple II, which could not display lowercase letters at all.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 09:55 AM   #29
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Apple needs to open up their phone. It's silly that you need a jailbreak to do some basic features such as change your default programs for applications. Apple is great and all but they don't invest all of their resources into a certain app. Let third party companies improve the damn phone.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 11:02 AM   #30
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What gobsmacks me, is that the iOS keyboard doesn't change the alpha key letter case when you change mode from upper to lower case.

Unlike almost every other touch keyboard on the planet, the iOS keyboard ALWAYS uses uppercase on its letter keys.

Sometimes I wonder if there's a patent license involved.

Or maybe it's just a weird tribute to the original Apple II, which could not display lowercase letters at all.

100% agree.

Getting to symbols is a chore too, whereas with Android they're visible on the main keyboard and are a simple long press away. And depending on which keyboard you're using, you can adjust how long the long press actually needs to be to register the symbol. I make it very short so it's super responsive and fast.

I cannot take seriously anyone who attempts to argue the iOS keyboard, at this point in time, is better than the Android keyboard and its many alternatives. There's no contest.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 12:13 PM   #31
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Apple needs to open up their phone. It's silly that you need a jailbreak to do some basic features such as change your default programs for applications. Apple is great and all but they don't invest all of their resources into a certain app. Let third party companies improve the damn phone.
Yup. It is clear after jailbreaking that iOS does not degrade in terms of usability if it is "freed". My iPhone 5 is running strong after so many tweaks, no issues, and amazing battery life still.

But android does some of the stuff better that i jailbroke for.

At this point, i want a OS X phone and tablet, not some "mobile OSX" locked up crap.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 12:50 PM   #32
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I cannot take seriously anyone who attempts to argue the iOS keyboard, at this point in time, is better than the Android keyboard and its many alternatives. There's no contest.
That is your opinion. One that you seem to mistake for fact. No Android keyboard, no touch keyboard out there period, is as easy to use and as fluid as the one offered on iOS. I've seen them. I've played around with them. That is my opinion. OPINION.

Stop posting like you have become "enlightened" in some way with your Google lust. It makes you look silly.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 12:55 PM   #33
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That is your opinion. One that you seem to mistake for fact. No Android keyboard, no touch keyboard out there period, is as easy to use and as fluid as the one offered on iOS. I've seen them. I've played around with them. That is my opinion. OPINION.

Stop posting like you have become "enlightened" in some way with your Google lust. It makes you look silly.
I don't see them saying "it is a fact", so why are you getting worked up over someone else posting their OPINION?
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 12:56 PM   #34
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That is your opinion. One that you seem to mistake for fact. No Android keyboard, no touch keyboard out there period, is as easy to use and as fluid as the one offered on iOS. I've seen them. I've played around with them. That is my opinion. OPINION.

Stop posting like you have become "enlightened" in some way with your Google lust. It makes you look silly.
I too love the iOS keyboard, but have you tried Swype? It ***** all over it to be honest.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 01:02 PM   #35
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I too love the iOS keyboard, but have you tried Swype? It ***** all over it to be honest.
Swype is a mess. It makes the user seem like he/she is drunk texting to the recipient.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 01:30 PM   #36
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Do people here seriously think the iOS keyboard doesn't need some major improvements?

Leave android keyboards out of the conversation and the iOS keyboard is still terrible.

I can't believe certain people are so keyed up on arguing and defending iOS that they wouldn't want improvements regardless of what the competition is doing.

Absurdity.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 01:34 PM   #37
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Do people here seriously think the iOS keyboard doesn't need some major improvements?

Leave android keyboards out of the conversation and the iOS keyboard is still terrible.

I can't believe certain people are so keyed up on arguing and defending iOS that they wouldn't want improvements regardless of what the competition is doing.

Absurdity.
I know when I had the iPhone 4, it was amazing.

However on my iPhone 5, I make so many mistakes it bothers me. It is no longer as good IMO.

In fact it feels no better than the gs3 one to me. I like two handed typing, and the ios keyboard just makes me go crazy with that. May be they designed it just for one hand typing. But even on a 4 inch iPhone I am more comfortable with two handed. Too bad the keyboard doesn't like that.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 01:56 PM   #38
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Yup. It is clear after jailbreaking that iOS does not degrade in terms of usability if it is "freed". My iPhone 5 is running strong after so many tweaks, no issues, and amazing battery life still.

But android does some of the stuff better that i jailbroke for.

At this point, i want a OS X phone and tablet, not some "mobile OSX" locked up crap.
Pretty much. That's why I switched from an iPhone 5 to a Galaxy Note 2. I really want to have an iPhone but Apple is making it hard for me to use one.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 04:33 PM   #39
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Do people here seriously think the iOS keyboard doesn't need some major improvements?

Leave android keyboards out of the conversation and the iOS keyboard is still terrible.

I can't believe certain people are so keyed up on arguing and defending iOS that they wouldn't want improvements regardless of what the competition is doing.

Absurdity.
Come on. You know that iOS has the bestest most magical keyboard ever.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 07:41 PM   #40
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Irrelevant question for the quoting but yes Android phones are difficult to set up out of the box.
Only if you are inept.

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Swype is a mess. It makes the user seem like he/she is drunk texting to the recipient.
Your a pretty big excuse maker if you ask me. Though since you seem to think Android is hard to set up, that may explain. Try and tell me this is a mess. This Keyboard is fantastic.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 10:24 PM   #41
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Well after using the note ii for a week I missed iOS so much that I ebayed the Samsung and went back to the iPhone 5.

What clinched it for me was I trade stocks for a living and trading on the note while driving was very difficult. The bigger screen was nice but the trading apps I use daily are very clunky on android. I guess I'll just have to wait for the 5 " iPhone.

On a side note, because I had a couple of upgrades available from AT&T , the total cost of selling an iPhone , buying and selling a note 2, and then buying a new iPhone came out in the end a $200 bonus for me.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 10:50 PM   #42
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Do people here seriously think the iOS keyboard doesn't need some major improvements?

Leave android keyboards out of the conversation and the iOS keyboard is still terrible.

I can't believe certain people are so keyed up on arguing and defending iOS that they wouldn't want improvements regardless of what the competition is doing.

Absurdity.
It's not TERRIBLE. Middling, I'd say. It's good...not great, not bad, just good. Could definitely use some improvements, but it's usable and gets the job done.

Not quite as bad as you make it out to be. Really just a matter of adjusting to each keyboard, as they all have the subtleties and slight layout/size differences.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 11:05 PM   #43
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I;m thinking about switching to a note II from an iPhone 5. I love my nexus 7. The only thing I'm worried about is the note becoming hopelessly outdated after a couple month. Also how does everyone who went from an iPhone to android do on data. When I had an old HTC it seemed to use my data so much faster. Any input?
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 11:28 PM   #44
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I;m thinking about switching to a note II from an iPhone 5. I love my nexus 7. The only thing I'm worried about is the note becoming hopelessly outdated after a couple month. Also how does everyone who went from an iPhone to android do on data. When I had an old HTC it seemed to use my data so much faster. Any input?
Outdated how? Your iPhone will be outdated in a few months when the s comes out. You cannot chase technology, get what works for you today and guess what, it will keep working tomorrow and beyond.

People really have to unlearn what Apple and so many other companies have tried to brainwash with....just because a new toy comes out with great specs doesn't mean your existing tech stops working as good as it did the day before.

Sure, EVENTUALLY you will stop getting features in new OS updates (something Apple loves to do sooner than later) and eventually the latest and greatest apps will not run on your device, but by the time that happens to a phone you purchased today you would be up for an upgrade and the OS will be so far ahead that it will really be an UPGRADE rather than a new phone with great specs running the same crap the same way your old phone did.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 02:04 AM   #45
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Swype is a mess. It makes the user seem like he/she is drunk texting to the recipient.
The "Swype" keyboard I don't like as much, but the stock note 2 keyboard using the swype functionality (different keyboard than swype keyboard) is nice to be honest
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 08:38 AM   #46
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What clinched it for me was I trade stocks for a living and trading on the note while driving was very difficult.
Please don't do this, other drivers and pedestrians will thank you.
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