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iPhone 5 and 4S Top Samsung Galaxy S III in Worldwide Smartphone Shipments in 4Q 2012
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GermanyChris
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Simplicated
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No.
Learn to read if you want a fair comparison.
They're NOT adding the sales of the 4s and the 5 together.
The 4S, all by itself, outsold the S3.
BaldiMac
macrumors G3
Why do they need to include it? What place did it finish in for the quarters in question?
chrisbru
macrumors 6502a
Except its not exactly a fair comparison. Apple doesn't ship out $49 off-contract devices running iOS3, while Android does ship version 2.3 units for crazy cheap. I'm pretty sure Android even has some "feature phones" running that OS that aren't even really smartphones.
It's never going to be a completely perfect comparison, but I think individual models is a pretty good place to start, especially with the Galaxy S3 being the "flagship" Android phone.
They don't...the people asking for that have made it glaringly obvious they didn't 1) read the chart, or 2) don't actually understand the chart.
They think they combined the sales of the 4S and the 5...when they didn't.
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Reading comprehension. You don't have it.
Small White Car
macrumors G4
Yep, the only PR site in the world to post dozens and dozens of articles about iPhone antennae problems, iOS's terrible Maps, Foxconn suicides and child labor, and professional's complaints about stagnant Mac Pros and Final Cut X omissions.
Congratulations, you figured it out. Arn is just an Apple PR guy who is really, really, really bad at his job.
JGIGS
macrumors 68000
Not in anyway a fair comparison. You'd have to add the galaxy note 2 + Galaxy S3 sales minimum to compare to the iphone 5 as they split samsungs high end handset market share. Also the S3 is much later in its product life cycle and a new S4 is around the corner so of course its sales are going to start easing off sooner then the iphone 5.
Duh!
All are great products but I still find apple is starting to lag behind in invoation since the iphone 4 though a lot of samsung/android inovations are getting more gimmicky. A sign that smart phones in general are getting pretty mature in the product life cycle just like computers have for awhile.
If apple would let access and share my media files, allow a bit more customization (imagine what they could make with winterboard themes, fonts, and keyboards), and expandle storage.
I know why they don't allow it but I rather they let me decide if I want that stuff or not.
Duh!
All are great products but I still find apple is starting to lag behind in invoation since the iphone 4 though a lot of samsung/android inovations are getting more gimmicky. A sign that smart phones in general are getting pretty mature in the product life cycle just like computers have for awhile.
If apple would let access and share my media files, allow a bit more customization (imagine what they could make with winterboard themes, fonts, and keyboards), and expandle storage.
I know why they don't allow it but I rather they let me decide if I want that stuff or not.
So much for Apple being doomed and everyone wanting a huge screened phone.
No surprise that the iPhone 5 outsold the S3, the real story here is that the 4S outsold it.
So with all the doom and gloom surrounding Apple on the Internet, they still have the two best selling phones on the market. Looks like they are not in trouble at all and obviously they are doing something right.
No surprise that the iPhone 5 outsold the S3, the real story here is that the 4S outsold it.
So with all the doom and gloom surrounding Apple on the Internet, they still have the two best selling phones on the market. Looks like they are not in trouble at all and obviously they are doing something right.
Simplicated
macrumors 65816
Why is it fair? The table includes a previous generation iPhone and the current generation iPhone, but only includes the current generation Galaxy S phone. It's as though the table was designed just to present and tout how many phones Apple outsold its competitors during the two quarters.
And I fervently hate Samsung. But this table, as well as the conclusion, just create a bad image of Apple fans.
Small White Car
macrumors G4
You say that a fact is obvious and that it's "not fair" to explain this obvious fact. You then explain it yourself.
So does that make your post "not fair" too?
I don't think you read the chart correctly. They showed the stats for the iPhone 5 only. They also showed the stats for the 4S only. It was a head to head comparison of market share for the iPhone 5 vs the S3... (the best phones available from each company) and the S3 is getting clobbered by the iPhone 5.
The is nothing new though. The only time a Samsung smartphone has ever outsold the latest iPhone is when the S3 beat the 4S right before the iPhone 5 shipped. What's funny though is that even the iPhone 4S surged ahead and beat the S3 the very next quarter as these charts show.
paulsalter
macrumors 68000
The Iphone figures are split
iPhone 4S & iPhone 5 sold around 45 million combined in Q4 (chart has them split)
SIII had 15 million
Adding them up like this the Note 2 would have to have sold around 30 million to get Samsung equal to iPhone sales
Because they're comparing the top sales of the last 2 quarters time.
The S2 probably doesn't even register in the top 10 in sales in the previous 2 quarters.
These are NOT all time sales.
Small White Car
macrumors G4
Ok, go at it. Draw me a "fair" list of the top 3 selling phones.
Go:
1) _______
2) _______
3) _______
I'm curious to see how you handle this, since apparently you have a better idea.
GermanyChris
macrumors 601
Hey look Apple low end phone out sells Samsungs High end that is EOL..Really whodda thunk it??
Apple freshly released iPhone that people will be creaming their britches to get out sold Samsungs soon to be replaced EOL'd high end phone..whodda thunk it..
cheesyappleuser
macrumors 6502a
So, you have the following. This is, decomposing everything:
*iPhone 5 had more shipments than S3
*iPhone 4S also had more shipments than the S3
*The 4S and the 5 account for ~21% of the market
*The S3 accounts for 7% of the market, and it's the 3rd most sold smartphone
Now, you have this:
*If the S3 is the most sold and has 7%, the others have the same or less
*Imagine the S2 and the Note sold 7% each. That makes 21%
So, at best, Samsung sold as much in burn-your-wallet devices as Apple did.
Are you satisfied or plain mentally ill?
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Apples "freshly released" iPhone outsold the S3.
And so did it's 2 year old 4S.
As I said, reading comprehension...you don't have it.
paulsalter
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AppleScruff1
macrumors G4
Oh wait! Now shipments are impressive because Apple is back on top? But when it was Samsung on top the last time shipments meant nothing.
GermanyChris
macrumors 601
and the 4s costs what on contract?
continue on please..
**edit** the 4S was released in October 2011 so 17 month old 4s
No, "shipments" in and of themselves are never impressive. Apple doesn't release "shipment" numbers, they release actual sales numbers. And most of these "estimates" on what Samsung ships are just that, estimates, since Samsung doesn't actually release shipment OR sales numbers.
Simplicated
macrumors 65816
🙄 We are talking about the previous and current generations, not the three top-selling phones.