External USB 3 enclosure 3.5" - Page 2

davsv1 · Jan 16, 2013, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by torana355

Epowermac.com.au

Same as me, I have always found them very helpful, ring them up and ask what the problem may be.

Qonix · Feb 12, 2013, 04:56 PM

this is my hdd. is this sata I, II or III or whatever?
cause i saw on newegg there are different enclosures for different sata types

g4cube · Feb 12, 2013, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qonix

Image

this is my hdd. is this sata I, II or III or whatever?
cause i saw on newegg there are different enclosures for different sata types

WD10EARS is a SATA II drive. 3Gbps. 64MB cache.
http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/librar...879-701229.pdf

Google is your friend!

macthefork · Feb 12, 2013, 05:59 PM

Do any of these USB 3.0 enclosures abide by the OS Energy Saver settings to NOT put the drive to sleep? I just sent one back that spun down every 3 minutes ignoring the OS settings. Kind of slows everything down when you're working on a project, and have to wait for the spinning beachball every time the work is auto saved. I know my iMac only has USB 2.0. But, I'm looking for one to install an existing drive into for my wife's upcoming imac purchase.

OS version 10.8.2, iMac 12,2

Fishrrman · Feb 13, 2013, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qonix

I'm looking for an USB 3.0 compatible enclosure..
I gived a look on amazon but in some reviews I found that some on OSX works only on usb 2.0 (cause of the firmware of that enclosures).

Can you suggest me one? I would spend not more than 40$ thx

Get either:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00APP6694?...SIN=B00APP6694
or
http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Docki...SIN=B003UI62AG

Either one will give you all the speed that the drive you have can deliver when connected via USB3.

Qonix · 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishrrman

Get either:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00APP6694?...SIN=B00APP6694
or
http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Docki...SIN=B003UI62AG

Either one will give you all the speed that the drive you have can deliver when connected via USB3.

i don't like them. i want a closed enclosure :/

like this? http://www.amazon.com/Hornettek-HT-3...3&keywords=3.0

I just would be sure that is 100% mac compatible and no driver problems

Fishrrman · Feb 15, 2013, 09:12 AM

"i don't like them. i want a closed enclosure :/"

If you don't like them, don't buy them.

But you ASKED FOR recommendations on something that would work at USB3 and deliver full speeds.

The two docks I mentioned above will do exactly that.

Qonix · Feb 17, 2013, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishrrman

"i don't like them. i want a closed enclosure :/"

If you don't like them, don't buy them.

But you ASKED FOR recommendations on something that would work at USB3 and deliver full speeds.

The two docks I mentioned above will do exactly that.

ok, but are they the onl one? I doubt that doesn't exist closed ones

senseless · Feb 17, 2013, 03:27 PM

I've 3 enclosures fail on 2 different Macs, so it would be nice to know what's out there of higher quality. The internal drives were all ok and able to be transplanted.

thedeske · 08:35 PM

Hey guys - first post here. While researching External enclosures for a client that uses Lightroom/Raw and requires big space, I ran into something very interesting about the late 2012 macs and IvyBridge.
They now support UASP or USB Assisted SCSI protocal. You can google it and research, but it's a huge bump in transfer speed for USB3. It requires the external and system have a bridge that supports UAS.

The Caldigit AV Pro has it and I think the BlacX 5G Dock does as well. Lacie has a new portable that complies.

The client opted for a set of 4TB AV Pros and a few extra Drive modules for redundant backup.
These are exceptional enclosures BTW.
The 4TB drives (and likely all sizes) are Hitachi GST Deskstar & vetted at Caldigit. USB3 only or a model with FW800 which we don't need with new macs.

Barefeats did a review with an SSD loaded model and a 2012 i7 iMac here - http://www.barefeats.com/hard162.html

Interesting that Apple makes no noise about this new protocal, but I suppose it might have something to do with the fact that they have no external product to sell. Still, the noise about fusion and they leave out this "Near to equal Thunderbolt" speed which might be important to people who use something other than raid. Why?

Happy Shopping Guys!
E

Fishrrman · Feb 19, 2013, 03:46 PM

"Hey guys - first post here. While researching External enclosures for a client that uses Lightroom/Raw and requires big space, I ran into something very interesting about the late 2012 macs and IvyBridge.
They now support UASP or USB Assisted SCSI protocal. You can google it and research, but it's a huge bump in transfer speed for USB3. It requires the external and system have a bridge that supports UAS."

Both of the plugable.com docks I mentioned in reply #32 above support UASP.

I have the plugable "lay-flat" dock connected to my 2012 Mac Mini. In it I use an Intel 520 series SSD, as my "external boot drive". I get read speeds of 410mbps and write speeds of 247mbps.

For an external USB3 drive enclosure or dock, look for either an
ASMedia 1051e controller chip
or an
ASMedia 1053 controller chip.

Either of these should support UASP.

chuckiehina · Feb 19, 2013, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishrrman

Get either:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00APP6694?...SIN=B00APP6694
or
http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Docki...SIN=B003UI62AG

Either one will give you all the speed that the drive you have can deliver when connected via USB3.

I'm a bit skeptical of these open plug-in drive for everyday use. Isn't there a potential ESD issue with the drive open and exposed like that? It is fine on MY workbench, they look very convenient for occasional use and great for setting up drives. But I would be worried about keeping one on my desk for daily use, people just come by, pickup and touch the strangest things.

sefosdad · Feb 20, 2013, 09:01 AM

The Hard Drive in my iMac 24" 2008 failed. I already installed a new one. I placed the old HD in an external enclosure, but nothing happened. After reading on forums, I replaced the card on the HD and now at least I know it is running because I can feel the movement on the enclosure something it did not do before. I connected it to my computer and I get this message: " The disk you installed was not readable by this machine". I tried disk utility and it only shows the USB icon and the info it shows is this: DISK DESCRIPTION: Media
CONNECTION BUS: USB
TOTAL CAPACITY: 0 Bytes
S.M.A.R.T. STATUS: Not Supported
PARTITION MAP SCHEDULE: Unformatted
WRITE STATUS: Read/Write
Any help?

g4cube · Feb 20, 2013, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sefosdad

The Hard Drive in my iMac 24" 2008 failed. I already installed a new one. I placed the old HD in an external enclosure, but nothing happened. After reading on forums, I replaced the card on the HD and now at least I know it is running because I can feel the movement on the enclosure something it did not do before. I connected it to my computer and I get this message: " The disk you installed was not readable by this machine". I tried disk utility and it only shows the USB icon and the info it shows is this: DISK DESCRIPTION: Media
CONNECTION BUS: USB
TOTAL CAPACITY: 0 Bytes
S.M.A.R.T. STATUS: Not Supported
PARTITION MAP SCHEDULE: Unformatted
WRITE STATUS: Read/Write
Any help?

The 0 bytes is a clue.

Almost all modern drives have minimal firmware on the actual controller board of the hard drive mechanism.

At power up, this bootstrap loader on the controller goes to a special region on the hard drive that loads complete firmware in order to make the drive functional. This special firmware is stored on the drive platters and reports the topology of the drive, and the info necessary for proper operation. Only the drive manufacturer and recovery specialists can access this special control track on the drive.

Inability to load that firmware will make your drive look like this.

If the data is important, give some consideration to professional data recovery.

sefosdad · Feb 20, 2013, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g4cube

The 0 bytes is a clue.

Almost all modern drives have minimal firmware on the actual controller board of the hard drive mechanism.

At power up, this bootstrap loader on the controller goes to a special region on the hard drive that loads complete firmware in order to make the drive functional. This special firmware is stored on the drive platters and reports the topology of the drive, and the info necessary for proper operation. Only the drive manufacturer and recovery specialists can access this special control track on the drive.

Inability to load that firmware will make your drive look like this.

If the data is important, give some consideration to professional data recovery.

Thank you!

FireWire2 · Feb 21, 2013, 10:59 AM

How about just get ANY low cost eSATA with multiple drive (port multiplier) then connect to USB3.0 to eSATA adapter, like i do

Now you can have up to five hot swap SATA drives. Remember USB3.0 is 5Gb/s port use for a single 3.5" drive, kind of wasting the bandwith

thedeske · Feb 21, 2013, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishrrman

"Hey guys - first post here. While researching External enclosures for a client that uses Lightroom/Raw and requires big space, I ran into something very interesting about the late 2012 macs and IvyBridge.
They now support UASP or USB Assisted SCSI protocal. You can google it and research, but it's a huge bump in transfer speed for USB3. It requires the external and system have a bridge that supports UAS."

Both of the plugable.com docks I mentioned in reply #32 above support UASP.

I have the plugable "lay-flat" dock connected to my 2012 Mac Mini. In it I use an Intel 520 series SSD, as my "external boot drive". I get read speeds of 410mbps and write speeds of 247mbps.

For an external USB3 drive enclosure or dock, look for either an
ASMedia 1051e controller chip
or an
ASMedia 1053 controller chip.

Either of these should support UASP.

Very Nice speed. I love docks. My current Voyager Q gets a workout every day. Never have issues with mine, but many complain about quality control on most models.

Qonix · Feb 26, 2013, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qonix

Image

this is my hdd. is this sata I, II or III or whatever?
cause i saw on newegg there are different enclosures for different sata types

this is just sata not sata3 right?

yusukeaoki · Mar 23, 2013, 10:22 PM

A little late but I really suggest the WD My Book Essential 3TB.
Couple days ago they had a sale for 109USD.
It has USB3.0 so its blazing fast.

Bart Katz · Apr 16, 2013, 02:26 PM

FWIW:
I just spoke with Macally Tech Support and their new USB 3.0 SuperDrive Enclosure (w/o Firewire) [G-S350SU3] will be available in a couple of days.
The Firewire version [G-S350SU3B2] will be available within the next 30 days.

Feb 17, 2013, 08:29 PM	#35
thedeske macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2013	Hey guys - first post here. While researching External enclosures for a client that uses Lightroom/Raw and requires big space, I ran into something very interesting about the late 2012 macs and IvyBridge. They now support UASP or USB Assisted SCSI protocal. You can google it and research, but it's a huge bump in transfer speed for USB3. It requires the external and system have a bridge that supports UAS. The Caldigit AV Pro has it and I think the BlacX 5G Dock does as well. Lacie has a new portable that complies. The client opted for a set of 4TB AV Pros and a few extra Drive modules for redundant backup. These are exceptional enclosures BTW. The 4TB drives (and likely all sizes) are Hitachi GST Deskstar & vetted at Caldigit. USB3 only or a model with FW800 which we don't need with new macs. Barefeats did a review with an SSD loaded model and a 2012 i7 iMac here - http://www.barefeats.com/hard162.html Interesting that Apple makes no noise about this new protocal, but I suppose it might have something to do with the fact that they have no external product to sell. Still, the noise about fusion and they leave out this "Near to equal Thunderbolt" speed which might be important to people who use something other than raid. Why? Happy Shopping Guys! E Last edited by thedeske; Feb 17, 2013 at 08:35 PM.
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Feb 21, 2013, 10:59 AM	#41
FireWire2 macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2008	USB3.0 to eSATA JBOB mode How about just get ANY low cost eSATA with multiple drive (port multiplier) then connect to USB3.0 to eSATA adapter, like i do Now you can have up to five hot swap SATA drives. Remember USB3.0 is 5Gb/s port use for a single 3.5" drive, kind of wasting the bandwith
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Mar 23, 2013, 10:22 PM	#44
yusukeaoki macrumors 68020 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: California, USA.	A little late but I really suggest the WD My Book Essential 3TB. Couple days ago they had a sale for 109USD. It has USB3.0 so its blazing fast. __________________ 17" MacBook Pro (Early 2011), 2.2GHz i7 Quad, 16GB RAM, 128GB SSD+1TB HDD@5400rpm 11" MacBook Air (Mid 2012), 2.0GHz i7 Dual, 8GB RAM, 256GB Flash iPhone 5 (White), 32GB
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Apr 16, 2013, 02:26 PM	#45
Bart Katz macrumors newbie Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southwest USA	New Macally USB 3.0 Enclosures FWIW: I just spoke with Macally Tech Support and their new USB 3.0 SuperDrive Enclosure (w/o Firewire) [G-S350SU3] will be available in a couple of days. The Firewire version [G-S350SU3B2] will be available within the next 30 days.
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Feb 12, 2013, 04:56 PM	#27
Qonix Thread Starter macrumors member Join Date: Dec 2012	this is my hdd. is this sata I, II or III or whatever? cause i saw on newegg there are different enclosures for different sata types
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Feb 12, 2013, 05:59 PM	#29
macthefork macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2013	Do any of these USB 3.0 enclosures abide by the OS Energy Saver settings to NOT put the drive to sleep? I just sent one back that spun down every 3 minutes ignoring the OS settings. Kind of slows everything down when you're working on a project, and have to wait for the spinning beachball every time the work is auto saved. I know my iMac only has USB 2.0. But, I'm looking for one to install an existing drive into for my wife's upcoming imac purchase. OS version 10.8.2, iMac 12,2
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Feb 15, 2013, 09:12 AM	#32
Fishrrman macrumors 68020 Join Date: Feb 2009	"i don't like them. i want a closed enclosure :/" If you don't like them, don't buy them. But you ASKED FOR recommendations on something that would work at USB3 and deliver full speeds. The two docks I mentioned above will do exactly that.
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Feb 17, 2013, 03:27 PM	#34
senseless macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pennsylvania, USA	I've 3 enclosures fail on 2 different Macs, so it would be nice to know what's out there of higher quality. The internal drives were all ok and able to be transplanted.
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Feb 19, 2013, 03:46 PM	#36
Fishrrman macrumors 68020 Join Date: Feb 2009	"Hey guys - first post here. While researching External enclosures for a client that uses Lightroom/Raw and requires big space, I ran into something very interesting about the late 2012 macs and IvyBridge. They now support UASP or USB Assisted SCSI protocal. You can google it and research, but it's a huge bump in transfer speed for USB3. It requires the external and system have a bridge that supports UAS." Both of the plugable.com docks I mentioned in reply #32 above support UASP. I have the plugable "lay-flat" dock connected to my 2012 Mac Mini. In it I use an Intel 520 series SSD, as my "external boot drive". I get read speeds of 410mbps and write speeds of 247mbps. For an external USB3 drive enclosure or dock, look for either an ASMedia 1051e controller chip or an ASMedia 1053 controller chip. Either of these should support UASP.
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Feb 20, 2013, 09:01 AM	#38
sefosdad macrumors newbie Join Date: Feb 2013	The Hard Drive in my iMac 24" 2008 failed. I already installed a new one. I placed the old HD in an external enclosure, but nothing happened. After reading on forums, I replaced the card on the HD and now at least I know it is running because I can feel the movement on the enclosure something it did not do before. I connected it to my computer and I get this message: " The disk you installed was not readable by this machine". I tried disk utility and it only shows the USB icon and the info it shows is this: DISK DESCRIPTION: Media CONNECTION BUS: USB TOTAL CAPACITY: 0 Bytes S.M.A.R.T. STATUS: Not Supported PARTITION MAP SCHEDULE: Unformatted WRITE STATUS: Read/Write Any help?
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