[Confirmed] Verizon Unlimited Loophole

[cinner00]

WE are fortunate enough to still have a family unlimited plan for all 3 of our smart phones. Unfortunately, upgrade eligibility is coming fast and one of the phones will have to have it. We do have a Zoom tablet on it's own plan with data. It has never been upgraded. Can we use this plan to get a new smartphone and then transfer the tablet back and transfer the new phone to an existing? I have seen many threads about an additional dumb line, but nothing regarding a tablet.

[noturbizniss]

Originally Posted by jaifar1996

LONG POST, BUT I DID SOME OF THE HOMEWORK FOR YOU ALL SO ITS ALL GOOD!!


I can confirm that the loophole still exists. I just upgraded on January 11, 2013.

- I had an upgrade available on one of my UNLIMITED DATA lines
- I had a 9.99 add a line with a dumbphone on it that didnt have an upgrade
- I have a ANY MOBILE TALK & TXT SHR 700 which is an old plan

NOTE: I stressed over trying the loophole bc i chatted on chat with a few verizon reps. About half of them said i would STILL lose my UNLIMITED data even if i transfered the upgrade and upgraded through a dumbphone line. About half said i wouldnt lose it, and were ready to take my order. The thing is, how can you trust the online system?? If they were wrong, you lose UNLIMITED DATA forever. So my SUGGESTION is to go to a corporate VERIZON store. That is what I did. That way you have a person/manager held accountable if they gave you bad info.

He transfered my upgrade to my moms line(dumbphone) and did the upgrade. He placed the order and said I would receive my phone in 2 days. So I went to my online acct - -
One of the posters is correct, for about 2 days my your online account will show your UNLIMITED DATA line has upgraded, and instructs to activate the phone on the UNLIMITED DATA line when it arrives. 2 days later when my phone arrived, the instructions disappeared. At this point, it seems like you have a good esn phone to use on any line you want or to sell.

* Just to be sure, I took my phone in the box back to the Verizon corporate store and told them about what it said online and asked him to do it himself. He was more than happy to...He activated the SmartPhone on my moms line and put it on the 2gig plan.

* 2 hours later, I called Verizon Customer care and told them I wanted to put the dumbphone back on the line and drop the data plan. They may ask why youre doing that. I just said my mom couldnt get used to the phone and wanted her old phone back.

End of story...I now have a new clean esn smartphone, my UNLIMITED DATA line is still good. THE CONTRACT IS EXTENDED FOR ANOTHER 2 YEARS ON THE UNLIMITED DATA LINE.

So have at it....but do it through your local Verizon Corporate Store. Just dont say that your plans are to remove the smartphone later and drop the data plan on the dumbphone line.

When you removed the smartphone from your mom's line and reactivated the dumb phone did you need your mom or her phone with you or can you do it with her in a different location?

Also, Can this be done with another smartphone currently on tiered data, i.e.
1)transfer unlimited upgrade to tiered data phone
2)activate new phone on tiered data
3)wait some minutes - hours
4)remove new phone from tiered pland and reactivate old phone (darn it, i just couldn't get used to the new phone, i miss my old phone)
5)activate new phone on unlimited plan

Thanks

[Luis2004]

I can confirm that this loophole still exists. Just did it with the iPhone 5 and still have unlimited data.

I ordered a broken verizon basic phone from ebay and am planning on activating it to the dumb phone line via vzw.com as soon as I get it (this is what the sales rep told me to do).

All you need is a valid IMEI to activate it and you're golden.

[firefighterk]

Hi everyone. I have a question as I don't know if anyone has done it yet. I remember when this thread was first started right before the iPhone 5 came out.

I can confirm it as well as it work by upgrading the dumb phone to a iPhone 5 then changing the esn numbers.

My question is now that I did that in a year from now can I do that again with that dumb phone. And just keep repeating the proccess every 2 years. Thanks

[Sfuzzi]

I called Verizon and was told several times by different reps that transferring my line udp upgrade to my daughters dumb phone will result in 2 year contract on my line without unlimited data. I wonder if the loophole has now closed or if someone has done this recently?

If it still works is the key to activate the new iPhone 5 first on the dummy line and transfer

Or do I only ever activate on the udp line

I read what feels like conflicting advice on his forum.
TIA

[mactumors]

Originally Posted by Sfuzzi

I called Verizon and was told several times by different reps that transferring my line udp upgrade to my daughters dumb phone will result in 2 year contract on my line without unlimited data. I wonder if the loophole has now closed or if someone has done this recently?

If it still works is the key to activate the new iPhone 5 first on the dummy line and transfer

Or do I only ever activate on the udp line

I read what feels like conflicting advice on his forum.
TIA

It will extend the contract on your dumb phone line by 2 years, since you are using an upgrade; the rep was right. Yes, the key is to activate the phone on the dumb phone line. Then put the old dumb phone back on the dumb phone line and removing the data plan. Now you have an iPhone that is not active on any line. The the next morning when the SIM has "aged", you will be able to activate your iPhone on your line with unlimited data. The dumb phone line has been extended 2 years, but the unlimited line will not be. You can always use your unlimited line upgrade for your dumb phone line and you will still retain unlimited data.

[Dash1223]

Originally Posted by cinner00

WE are fortunate enough to still have a family unlimited plan for all 3 of our smart phones. Unfortunately, upgrade eligibility is coming fast and one of the phones will have to have it. We do have a Zoom tablet on it's own plan with data. It has never been upgraded. Can we use this plan to get a new smartphone and then transfer the tablet back and transfer the new phone to an existing? I have seen many threads about an additional dumb line, but nothing regarding a tablet.

I work for vzw. Your answer is no. You can sometimes upgrade that line to a phone but you can not put a tablet back on it. And you can only upgrade it to a smart phone if you get the right person.

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Originally Posted by mactumors

It will extend the contract on your dumb phone line by 2 years, since you are using an upgrade; the rep was right. Yes, the key is to activate the phone on the dumb phone line. Then put the old dumb phone back on the dumb phone line and removing the data plan. Now you have an iPhone that is not active on any line. The the next morning when the SIM has "aged", you will be able to activate your iPhone on your line with unlimited data. The dumb phone line has been extended 2 years, but the unlimited line will not be. You can always use your unlimited line upgrade for your dumb phone line and you will still retain unlimited data.

That's not true. Once you use a two year upgrade from your unlimited line it will automatically put you on 2gb plan. If you want to keep unlimited you can't use your 2 year upgrade. Phone must be active on dumb line for 24 hrs before you can move it. Also our department( loyalty) no longer offer nationwide family plan to single line accts. only share everything plan if going from nationwide single to family share so BEWARE!

[DizzyV6P]

Originally Posted by Dash1223

I work for vzw. Your answer is no. You can sometimes upgrade that line to a phone but you can not put a tablet back on it. And you can only upgrade it to a smart phone if you get the right person.

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That's not true. Once you use a two year upgrade from your unlimited line it will automatically put you on 2gb plan. If you want to keep unlimited you can't use your 2 year upgrade. Phone must be active on dumb line for 24 hrs before you can move it. Also our department( loyalty) no longer offer nationwide family plan to single line accts. only share everything plan if going from nationwide single to family share so BEWARE!

Please explain how hundreds of people on this forum have successfully done this and you register just now and say its not possible. Did Verizon suddenly change their policies in the last few days? Especially in light of T-Mobile's new policy, that would be stupid of them. Please explain.

[firefighterk]

Hey everyone I included the link below from Engadget that states Verizon has changed the upgrade plan again. Does anyone know if our loophole will still work. From using a dumb phone (flip phone ) upgrade to a iPhone5s lets say and then switch the esn numbers

[DiaBlo666]

Originally Posted by firefighterk

Hey everyone I included the link below from Engadget that states Verizon has changed the upgrade plan again. Does anyone know if our loophole will still work. From using a dumb phone (flip phone ) upgrade to a iPhone5s lets say and then switch the esn numbers

what link?

[comptr]

Originally Posted by DiaBlo666

what link?

I think he was referring to this link: http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/12/v...ull-two-years/

[firefighterk]

Originally Posted by DiaBlo666

what link?

Sorry the link above lol

[C DM]

Originally Posted by firefighterk

Hey everyone I included the link below from Engadget that states Verizon has changed the upgrade plan again. Does anyone know if our loophole will still work. From using a dumb phone (flip phone ) upgrade to a iPhone5s lets say and then switch the esn numbers

As far as that particular change, it seems it won't be in effect until the beginning of next year.

[dhy8386]

Just did it. Everything works fine. You can switch phones as you wish on your unlimited line. And no more waiting 24hrs for SIM aging.

[GZ2525]

With this method, couldn't you always upgrade to a smartphone on the dumb phone line, get the phone for $200 and sell the phone if you wanted and just switch back to the dumb phone?

Seems like you'd always make money that way.

[9dkid]

Still on my Unlimited plan. Have to say, I squeeze gb's with Netflix, Tune In during commutes, Trips, and just lounging at home.

Just not sure how long that will last, I know eventually something will happen.

[AppleFanatic10]

It says that my upgrade date is in Dec 2014, does that mean that I won't be affected right now? I know my contract ends in 2015.