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Old Feb 27, 2013, 08:45 PM   #26
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Things just keep getting more and more expensive.
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 08:45 PM   #27
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Spotify Im happily with... Pandora is pretty bad anyways but nothing close to the shvt show and waste of 25$ called Match from Appl$
You should spell check, grammar check, and leave.
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 08:48 PM   #28
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Rise in Royalty Rates...?

"The change was made in response to a rise in the royalty rates that the company must pay to record companies."
"Desktop users can continue to listen to unlimited music."


Someone explain to me why the rise in royalty rates only apply to mobile users and not to desktop users....
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 08:48 PM   #29
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Completely reasonable pricing.
I get your point, that this is a bargain price if you are using Pandora more than 40 hours per month. But actually, this is ridiculously low pricing that Pandora can't possibly make any money on. And that is even with the royalty fees that it is paying are pathetically small. Yes, they've gone up. But when you take a song and deliver it as something like a custom product to a customer, you should pay a royalty. And currently those royalties are super small.

Pandora has no way to make money. And it has to compete against other competitors that also give away the product basically for free.
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 08:49 PM   #30
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No one has answered the question yet - I wonder how they would enforce this? If it's by account, maybe we could set up multiple accounts. If it's by device hardware somehow then hrmm..

But I also don't see myself listening to over 40 hours of music a month via pandora!

I shall not worry!
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 08:56 PM   #31
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So im paying for something and I can't listen to it unlimited... Looks like i'm not going to reup my payment.
Pandora Limits Free Mobile Listening to 40 Hours Per Month
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 08:58 PM   #32
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Blame this on politics.

Regular, terrestrial radio (like what you listen to in your car) pays NOTHING for royalties to play the music you hear.

But for some asinine reason, Internet radio is required to pay substantial royalty fees that's why Pandora is the most successful out of all of 'em, because no one else could afford it. When Pandora lobbied to Congress to try and get the same opportunities as terrestrial radio, their efforts were torn apart. Lawmakers actually suggested increasing the amount Pandora has to pay.

Absolutely ridiculous.
Ziggy... try this... Google "do radio stations pay for the music they play".
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:00 PM   #33
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So im paying for something and I can't listen to it unlimited... Looks like i'm not going to reup my payment.
I like how you didn't even read the article..

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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:00 PM   #34
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Someone explain to me why the rise in royalty rates only apply to mobile users and not to desktop users....
That was my first question as well. If the rates are for streaming music, why are desktop users exempt?
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:01 PM   #35
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Does a Roku count as a mobile device in this instance?
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:08 PM   #36
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Won't affect me, because I moved over to Spotify.
Spotify's radio selections are not as good as Pandora in my experience. They seem to be dominated by more well known and popular artists and songs that I've already heard many times over or didn't want to hear in the first place. Pandora is better at finding artists and songs I haven't heard to add to my library.

Also radio stations cannot be deleted on Spotify once they are added or Spotify adds some crap station for you. People have been complaining about this and requesting this basic feature for over a year while Spotify's staff says they have no plans to work on it. Even premium members are forced to have these unwanted stations permanently stay on their radio playlist.

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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:08 PM   #37
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So im paying for something and I can't listen to it unlimited... Looks like i'm not going to reup my payment.
I would sure nice if people read the article for once.
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:18 PM   #38
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Ziggy... try this... Google "do radio stations pay for the music they play".
Basing my findings on the ArsTechnica article I linked to.
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:20 PM   #40
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"The change was made in response to a rise in the royalty rates that the company must pay to record companies."
"Desktop users can continue to listen to unlimited music."


Someone explain to me why the rise in royalty rates only apply to mobile users and not to desktop users....
It depends on what they mean. Their desktop app is part of Pandora One, so that could be what they mean

If not though, it does sound like something government-related. Things that make this little sense tend to be.
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:23 PM   #41
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Oh, the horror of it all! ... The people in North Korea don't know how bad we have it here in the free world.
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:24 PM   #42
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Something needs to scare XM and Sirius for their horrible 50 kbps sound quality. They need to get rid of channels and up the bitrate for better sound quality.
I never have any problems with SiriusXM. I don't really use their iPhone app that much, but I do use their website and Pulsar every day and sounds fine.

I like Sirius for music discovery, and some songs are not on iTunes or Spotify, especially from DJs (Channel 51 "BPM" is my go to channel).
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:26 PM   #43
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Oh, the horror of it all! ... The people in North Korea don't know how bad we have it here in the free world.
I know, right? People whine about "Greed" and not being able to listen to Pandora as much as they like... Newsflash people: We are blessed to have what we do have. They could take away half of what the average american owns and we'd still be better off than those in North Korea. For example...
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:37 PM   #44
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"The change was made in response to a rise in the royalty rates that the company must pay to record companies."
"Desktop users can continue to listen to unlimited music."


Someone explain to me why the rise in royalty rates only apply to mobile users and not to desktop users....

mobile is where you make your money today, desktop you give away for free to entice people to spend money
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:40 PM   #45
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I didn't realize mobile had been unlimited. Before I upgraded, I hit my 40 hours on my computer easily; guess I could have just switched to iPod and speaker set. Ah well, it's a solid service to pay for.
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:43 PM   #46
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So im paying for something and I can't listen to it unlimited... Looks like i'm not going to reup my payment.
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THE ANSWER IS IN THE HEADLINE.

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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:44 PM   #47
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That's too bad

Goodbye Pandora.

Hello Spotify and Grooveshark!
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:53 PM   #48
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I think this sounds worse than it is. How many people really listen to Pandora that much (I know the article says 4%)
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 09:58 PM   #49
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Old Feb 27, 2013, 10:01 PM   #50
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Does this affect my phone when in WiFi or only when using Verizon's data?

I listen to pandora all day every day while programming away at work, but always over wifi.
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