Phil Schiller Goes on Offensive Against Android and Samsung

[slffl]

Originally Posted by linsam

I call BS. I used an iPhone for over 5 years and recently switched from an iPhone 5 to the Note 2. Love the Note 2 and the whole Android experience. I have a deep respect for both platforms. There is no need to say one is better than the other. They are both great in their own way. Period.

How do you backup and restore your note 2? You rebought all of your apps for android? What are you using instead of Photostream, iWork, iCloud, Garageband, iPhoto, Find my phone, Find my Friends, etc. etc.

Sorry, but you're not fooling anyone.

[Illusion986]

i want my 10 seconds back...

[slffl]

Originally Posted by impulse462

The usual stuff. And I agree.

Although its hard not to feel as if I'm sitting by watching as these new android phones keep adding more and more features which I don't have. But his comments about "seamlessness" are true.

What 'features' does android have that you don't? Here's one that you have that Android doesn't. BACKUP and RESTORE! I call that a BIG one!

[ufwa]

Originally Posted by Unggoy Murderer

Enough of that gaming patter, it's the everyday stuff that Macs do well in. In terms of useful stuff out the box, the Mac PISSES on the PC. Also, you haven't noticed fragmentation because because you've not been on stable platform.

So what some magically everyday stuff does a Mac pisses on a PC?

[palebluesatire]

I am an Android fan, and though I do believe that the flagship Android phones are way ahead of iOS, and the experience of using stock Android is superior, the end user will get a cheap Android phone running an old version of Android, sometimes vastly inferior to the latest iOS.
This being said, the end user (I've found) doesn't use half the features of their phones, whether it be on iOS or Android. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, SMS, etc. will both run very smoothly on whatever operating system. So in the end it's really up to personal preference for the end user.

[Giuly]

Originally Posted by gibbo132

Its just a shame apple wont update their software... it looks the same as it did on day one.

You didn't use iPhoneOS, did you?

[gnasher729]

Originally Posted by blackburn

He means that android is wining the race mobile os, the cheap part of the market is filled with androids. I need to develop an android app and I got an samsung ace for just 50€ new, granted that it is slow and outdated but I will use it only as a dev device, probably chained to my workstation.

In other words, Android developers don't make enough money to afford a decent phone.

[bushido]

and im sure most ppl care what OS # they use ... or fragmentation, which is just an excuse for devs to cry over

i met people that own android but dont even know it.

"What smartphone do u have? An android device?"

- no, i think its a samsung phone

Originally Posted by slffl

How do you backup and restore your note 2? You rebought all of your apps for android? What are you using instead of Photostream, iWork, iCloud, Garageband, iPhoto, Find my phone, Find my Friends, etc. etc.

Sorry, but you're not fooling anyone.

i dont use any of those minus the iCloud for contacts, calendar and backups and im on my 5th iPhone and 3rd iPad

[Schizoid]

Don't believe anything he says... I'm still waiting for his OS X Quake 3 Arena demo to work...

[firestarter]

Mr. Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of world-wide marketing, also said that Android users are often running old operating systems

I'm running iOS 5.1.1 on my two iPads and iPhone because Apple broke Maps and removed YouTube on 6.

Thanks Phil!

[Skika]

Words of wisdom.

Deal with it.

[unobtainium]

Bashing the competition is a loser's game. Just improve iOS and the next iPhone. It would be nice if Apple could surprise people again.

[Bubba Satori]

"We're insanely great and they suck."

What a stunning revelation.

Didn't Douglas Adams maroon all the marketers on an alien planet
where they quickly perished because of their inability to do anything
really useful in life?

[2IS]

This would have made sense in 2010

[locoboi187]

Originally Posted by firestarter

I'm running iOS 5.1.1 on my two iPads and iPhone because Apple broke Maps and removed YouTube on 6.

Thanks Phil!

Google maps and youtube from the App Store are much better than the old stock apps iOS devices used to come with.

[bjsterilite]

Originally Posted by gibbo132

Its just a shame apple wont update their software... it looks the same as it did on day one.

Similar, yes. Same? I think not.
Besides, it's not broken... why try and fix it?
The only thing I wish to change in springboard is native support for freely placing apps anywhere on the page. I could understand if they chose to force the apps to line up from left-right top-bottom because of aesthetics but a little freedom in that department would be nice with an on/off switch in the settings app. Then again, Apple is not one to offer many choices to its consumers and Steve made that very clear.

[Speedy2]

It's an embarrassment that they can't come up with more convincing ideas to fight Android than some bland marketing statement.

This is especially bad:
"He added that "Android is often given a free replacement for a feature phone and the experience isn't as good as an iPhone.""

This is nothing but whining.
Well, man up and release some decent stuff. So people will DEMAND an iPhone and won't put up with a free replacement. Easy as that.

Also I'd like to point out that the seamless integration is worth zilch when the product is buggy as hell and causes major problems (iOS 6 and Apple Maps, I'm talking to you!). I don't care if the reason is hardware, software or the combination of both. I just want this thing to work!

[XtraSmiley]

Originally Posted by firestarter

I'm running iOS 5.1.1 on my two iPads and iPhone because Apple broke Maps and removed YouTube on 6.

Thanks Phil!

You must be trolling right? I mean who wouldn't update because of this? There is a Google maps option that is waaaaaay better than the 5.x maps and I don't think anyone really misses the YT app that much, you can still watch YT fine on 6.x BTW.

[unobtainium]

Originally Posted by slffl

What 'features' does android have that you don't? Here's one that you have that Android doesn't. BACKUP and RESTORE! I call that a BIG one!

You can add iMessage to that list.

Also, for those who like all their devices to be integrated with their Mac, iCloud is pretty indispensable.

[JGIGS]

Having been an iPhone user since the original to the iphone 4and changing to an S3 about 4 months ago both are good operating system with there pros and cons. Depends what matter more to you. If apple wants to hit it out of the park for my user esperience they simply have to open up and let me save whatever file type I want to my phone and let me share whatever file type I want with any type of app. That with the form factor, simple user interface, integration with itunes and icloud as a mac owner will pull me back over.

A refresh of ios and a little more customization options wouldn't hurt (would love to see winterboard and apps in the app store) and other cool tweaks.

They need to give more freedom and make the iphone fun again IMHO.

If they do I'll be back. Though the form factor of the new htc one definitely interests me since its kind of iphoneish.

[unobtainium]

Originally Posted by XtraSmiley

You must be trolling right? I mean who wouldn't update because of this? There is a Google maps option that is waaaaaay better than the 5.x maps and I don't think anyone really misses the YT app that much, you can still watch YT fine on 6.x BTW.

You can also download a much-improved YouTube app.

Terrible reasons not to upgrade.

[2IS]

Originally Posted by bjsterilite

Similar, yes. Same? I think not.
Besides, it's not broken... why try and fix it?
The only thing I wish to change in springboard is native support for freely placing apps anywhere on the page. I could understand if they chose to force the apps to line up from left-right top-bottom because of aesthetics but a little freedom in that department would be nice with an on/off switch in the settings app. Then again, Apple is not one to offer many choices to its consumers and Steve made that very clear.

As time goes by, simply being "not broken" is becoming "not enough"

[Smartass]

thats the second time this month that Schiller went attacking the competition. Scared much?

[Peace]

bla.bla.bla android vs. ios.


slow day for me.

[blackburn]

Originally Posted by gnasher729

In other words, Android developers don't make enough money to afford a decent phone.

In other words I'm a student, and when I say that I need is because I don't have a choice. Either that or I fail that class in particular.
I do have an iPad and a few macs and I could care less about android that's why I a bought a cheap phone.

Edit: for my main phone I use a windows phone, it's simple and I get 4 days of battery life of it.