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glsillygili

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Dec 16, 2011
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I WANT STEVE BACK NO ONE WILL EVER REPLACE STEVE

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Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
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I know. Jony Ive on the other hand....

I wonder, given the involvement he has now with iOS, if he is going to introduce iOS 7 in WWDC the way scott forstall did wih previous iOSes versions...
Federighi will be on stage for iOS and OS X, Schiller for any hardware announcements and Cue if there's anything related to ATV, Siri or maps. Bank on it.
 

maxosx

macrumors 68020
Dec 13, 2012
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Southern California
It's no secret that Apple is behind the others by choice. Being one of the most powerful tech companies ever, they can also afford to keep the 5S to a minimum & save the big improvements for next years iPhone 6.

It's important to remember Steve's Style was to set extremely high expectations. These in turn caused the vast number of Apple enthusiasts to have unrealistic expectations.

It's these same types that we read about here that exchange five, ten, or even more units before they finally find the "perfect" one for them.

Tim is not Steve Jobs. A rather obvious truth that many cannot or will not accept. Relentlessly expecting him to be like Steve it's just not realistic. It causes more harm than good.

Sadly it's Apple & the board of directors that allowed Steve to take every bit of the credit for bringing Apple back to life. Then it was Steve's ego, demeanor, & narcissistic personality that dug that hole deeper. This is not the first large scale enterprise that's suffered as a result of having just "One Superstar" that means everything to everyone.

As a result when that person dies, so does a portion of the company. Then making matters worse the company must find a new identity. Apple hasn't found their new identity yet, that's a weakness that will not change till they've found a compelling leader. It's been Apples core asset for so long, people are having a problem accepting today's reality. Tim Cook is excellent, but he's no SJ.

The sooner they can find their footing the better.
 

Boris-VTR

macrumors regular
Apr 18, 2013
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Jobs had great feeling for future products...not so much with choosing CEOs (Scully and Cook). Even in his biography he said that Cook is not product person.
 

flottenheimer

macrumors 68000
Jan 8, 2008
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Up north
I wish Tim would let someone else from Apple attend. He's just not interesting to listen to. I know when Steve was alive he was THE face of Apple but Tim isn't Steve and he doesn't need to be.

Now, that would/should be Ive.
But I am pretty sure Ive doesn't like to be in the spotlight.
Come to think of it, anyone from Apples design division would be exciting to listen to.

As a media-trainer I'd advice Tim to learn to pick up a little pace. He simply talks too slow. And that thing alone kills all the excitement in his announcements. Other than that, I think he is doing a great job.
 

mabaker

macrumors 65816
Jan 19, 2008
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It's pitiful to read some teenagers' opinions about Tim being boring and stuff. I think they are better served with Samsung's embarrassing but entertaining Bollywood commercials for their failed android handset. No substance whatsoever.
 

flottenheimer

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Jan 8, 2008
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Up north
And BTW—Kara Swisher—All-D seriously needs to step up their game and get rid of her as an interviewer.

Her being an All-D co-founder, I understand it can be hard to resist all the prestige involved with getting a Tim Cook interview. But Kara Swisher clearly is not a great interviewer.
 

fullauto

macrumors 6502a
Oct 19, 2012
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Brisbane
Looking forward to it.

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He will use this time to announce that he is coming out.

I wish he would, it's nobody's business but on the flip side we need more people in power to stand up and be openly be themselves, it assists more and more in eliminating the taboo's (IMO).

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It's pitiful to read some teenagers' opinions about Tim being boring and stuff. I think they are better served with Samsung's embarrassing but entertaining Bollywood commercials for their failed android handset. No substance whatsoever.

This.
 

jadot

macrumors 6502a
Apr 6, 2010
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UK
I sure hope that this time around he does actually have great things in the pipeline.

Cause in the last keynote I remember him saying, you see we promised you we had great things in the pipeline for this year.

And the truth is he had the same old things only thinner (not the ipad though which was fatter), and/or smaller, and/or with a high resolution screen.

All of which were either overpriced, under powered, laggy, buggy, image retaining, scratch prone or delayed. And some just didn't materialize at all for no apparent reason, such as the cinema display and the mac pro.

Wow, dude. Have You read back what you posted there? On an Apple forum? You don't seem to like ANYTHING apple has produced at least in the last 12 months.

Maybe - and this is a guess - Apple just don't make the right products for you. Maybe someone else does. It's OK, you know. You can buy what you want, from who you want, with your own money. You don't HAVE to like Apple.

It's a bit silly to complain about it though. "iPhones are no good, Macs are no good, iCloud is no good, Tim cook can't run Apple, Apple don't make the products I want them to, Apple products are too expensive compared to offerings from their rivals etc"

I just don't understand the sense of entitlement around here, and I'm a Professional user BTW. I use Pro grade machines and software, and I use what I need to get the job done. I try not to get too upset about what Apple might not do for me in some fantasy future, and I occasionally go out into the real world and not let my life be run by my expectations of which non existent device/technology/hardware Apple is conspiratorially keeping from me.

And for what it's worth Tim Cook is the CEO of just one of the most successful companies in history. Apple. They have money in the bank. D'ya think he might have a better idea of what he's doing than, say, you do?
 

Boris-VTR

macrumors regular
Apr 18, 2013
247
17
Looking forward to it.

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I wish he would, it's nobody's business but on the flip side we need more people in power to stand up and be openly be themselves, it assists more and more in eliminating the taboo's (IMO).

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This.

Jp, i support your cause. It is better for all of you when people in power come out.

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Wow, dude. Have You read back what you posted there? On an Apple forum? You don't seem to like ANYTHING apple has produced at least in the last 12 months.

Maybe - and this is a guess - Apple just don't make the right products for you. Maybe someone else does. It's OK, you know. You can buy what you want, from who you want, with your own money. You don't HAVE to like Apple.

It's a bit silly to complain about it though. "iPhones are no good, Macs are no good, iCloud is no good, Tim cook can't run Apple, Apple don't make the products I want them to, Apple products are too expensive compared to offerings from their rivals etc"

I just don't understand the sense of entitlement around here, and I'm a Professional user BTW. I use Pro grade machines and software, and I use what I need to get the job done. I try not to get too upset about what Apple might not do for me in some fantasy future, and I occasionally go out into the real world and not let my life be run by my expectations of which non existent device/technology/hardware Apple is conspiratorially keeping from me.

And for what it's worth Tim Cook is the CEO of just one of the most successful companies in history. Apple. They have money in the bank. D'ya think he might have a better idea of what he's doing than, say, you do?

It just might be that you are blinded, not dude you replied to. He gave i critique and you attack him with "go away, you don't follow Apple blindly like we all do.....here Apple, take our money regardles of quality of your product (5400 rpm hdd in 2013 machine.....you'r kidding right?)"

He gave his opinion and he is right...he belives that last years product weren't worth the money they were asking. He gave i critique. Maybe, this year he will find products to be better.
 

the8thark

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Apr 18, 2011
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A fraction of a second later, Tim produced apparently magical sparks of electricity between his hands, powered by the new Apple iWatch hidden up his sleeve.

And then Cook proceeds to say:

Tim Cook: I can't tell you anything about this new device. I didn't design the hardware for it, I didn't design the software for it, I didn't market it, I didn't sell it online or in our retain stores but . . .
I did ensure that the factories in China could make enough to meet the amazing demand this product will have. And I cam make sure that everyone will be able to get their hands on this with next to no waiting time. Want to hear more about how I can get the inventory channel for this product silky smooth?

A necessary part of running Apple but as boring as watching grass grow to listen to. Cook can talk about other things, but he's not the brains behind the other aspects. And the people would rather hear those actual brains behind the areas to talk about their own areas.
 

flottenheimer

macrumors 68000
Jan 8, 2008
1,528
651
Up north
A necessary part of running Apple but as boring as watching grass grow to listen to. Cook can talk about other things, but he's not the brains behind the other aspects...

Have you ever been at an Apple boardroom meeting? Have you ever worked at Apple on a regular working day? Have you got insight into the actual decision, design or strategy process going on at Apple?

Without personally being able to says yes to any of those, I'm pretty sure that the CEO of Apple influences, knows about, decides and can talk about a lot more than supply chain management.
— no one, with as complex an offering, such as Apples, is "the brains". Tim may not have built the canons, nor does he fire the canons himself — but he is captain of the ship. He can probably talk about pretty much everything.
 

the8thark

macrumors 601
Apr 18, 2011
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Have you ever been at an Apple boardroom meeting? Have you ever worked at Apple on a regular working day? Have you got insight into the actual decision, design or strategy process going on at Apple?

Without personally being able to says yes to any of those, I'm pretty sure that the CEO of Apple influences, knows about, decides and can talk about a lot more than supply chain management.
— no one, with as complex an offering, such as Apples, is "the brains". Tim may not have built the canons, nor does he fire the canons himself — but he is captain of the ship. He can probably talk about pretty much everything.

I agree with you he can, but if you take the keynotes for example, Tim gives us the numbers first (his specialty), then others talk about the new products or releases from Apple, and then Tom does a conclusion at the end.

Yes Tim can talk about almost everything on Apple, he knows the lot. But he's not the one who put his heart and soul into those other areas. And people would rather hear from those people on those areas. Is not the same when hearing it from Tim.

Another way of putting it is, you get a different perspective when Tim talks about the cannons, compared to when the guy who designed/fires the cannons talks about them.

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Apple hasn't found their new identity yet, that's a weakness that will not change till they've found a compelling leader.

I think Apple have found their new identity. And it's not with one, oversees everything leader like Jobs. It's more with specialised department heads who are passionate about their work, and willing to show it to the world. The days of looking to one man as being "the personification of Apple" are over. And I think the best example of this are in the new keynotes. Everyone talks on what they are expert in and that's it.
 

BruceEBonus

macrumors 65816
Sep 23, 2007
1,355
1,362
Derbyshire, England
I say we all face the stage and shout in unison..."No more New (Post Jobs) Apple...return to innovation and no more pointless 'upgrades ' like lightning connectors and size revamps of the same old tosh".

Or something.....

Er...

Thanks!
 
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