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HiRez

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Is it April Fool's Day again already? Or did Amazon just not get the memo that no one wanted or wants a 3D phone?
 

pgiguere1

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May 28, 2009
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Using retina-tracking technology, images on the smartphone would seem to float above the screen like a hologram and appear three-dimensional at all angles, they said.

Why the retina specifically? All they need to track is the general position of the viewer's eyes. It's like they're trying to confuse people on purpose, like people aren't confused enough by what a retina display is...
 

Tiger8

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May 23, 2011
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Kindle digital sales numbers make Apple iBook sales look like a joke.

Also, the Kinde Fire - Not Nexus 7- was the first tablet to affect iPad numbers, regardless how small that effect was.
 
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TheMarc

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Clearly the above three posters have no idea on what Amazons business goals are.

Here's a hint: Money doesn't even come into it. Seriously, their focus isn't on increasing profits each year. It never has been and never will be. Read up on how Amazon's business operates and you'll understand.

What is its focus on, then? Augmenting customer base? Integrating multiple services in one place for customers? Gathering customer info?
In any case, at SOME point, whatever their focus is on, it needs to bring in some money (profits), otherwise, at SOME point the bank, investors and stockholders will just get tired and kill the company, because what they want IS money.
 

Rogifan

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Clearly the above three posters have no idea on what Amazons business goals are.

Here's a hint: Money doesn't even come into it. Seriously, their focus isn't on increasing profits each year. It never has been and never will be. Read up on how Amazon's business operates and you'll understand.

Not sure why anyone would want to invest in a company that doesn't care about earning a profit. Why are they a public company then. :confused:
 

manu chao

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Jul 30, 2003
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Clearly the above three posters have no idea on what Amazons business goals are.

Here's a hint: Money doesn't even come into it. Seriously, their focus isn't on increasing profits each year. It never has been and never will be. Read up on how Amazon's business operates and you'll understand.

Well, I guess those investing into Amazon (ie, buying their shares) have as a goal to get a return on their investment. And a company that would keep loosing money eventually would get into negative equity and could then be taken over by its creditors.
 

Winni

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Clearly at the end of the day a successful business should sit there with some
cash, no?

So Jeff Bezos became a billionaire by producing losses?

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Not sure why anyone would want to invest in a company that doesn't care about earning a profit. Why are they a public company then. :confused:

Some people are in this business for the long run, not some short term goals like making a fast dime.
 

mytdave

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3g mp3?

Does is strike anyone else as a dumb idea to have a streaming only MP3 player w/3G cellular capability?

If you're going to be in hock to a cell company for monthly cellular service ($), might as well get a friggin smart phone.
 

rmwebs

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What is its focus on, then? Augmenting customer base? Integrating multiple services in one place for customers? Gathering customer info?
In any case, at SOME point, whatever their focus is on, it needs to bring in some money (profits), otherwise, at SOME point the bank, investors and stockholders will just get tired and kill the company, because what they want IS money.

As I said - go read.

I'll repeat it again shall I. Amazon's business focus is nothing to do with increasing profits.

Obviously they have to survive, and do so pretty well. But increasing profit is not their goal.
 
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Rogifan

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So Jeff Bezos became a billionaire by producing losses?

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Some people are in this business for the long run, not some short term goals like making a fast dime.

What does being profitable have to do with short term goals or making a fast dime? I assume most, if not all, public companies are interested in being profitable. :confused:
 

samcraig

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Amazon knows (as does Apple) Ecosystem = everything.

Making money off of devices is Apple's gig. Amazon wants more of a reason to get you hooked into their ecosystem.

They already have a great reason for you to buy all your ebooks from them. Amazon prime has expanded a lot in the last year. Music and apps - the best way to capture that market even more than they do now is to have mobile devices (not just kindles) that can play music and apps. So that means phones and iPod like devices.

No brainer.
 

Rogifan

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Put simply, if you invest in Amazon to get profits, your a fool. They will not bow down to investors just to make a quick buck.

Ok what's the point of investing in Amazon then? And what is this nonsense about making a quick buck? Amazon has been a public company since May 1997, and still is barely turning a profit. Apple earns more profit in one quarter than Amazon has in 16 years of existence. Why in the world is Amazon a public company if they don't care about turning a profit? :confused:
 

dolph0291

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Feb 16, 2011
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Phone - eh - and certainly not really 3D. But music player makes perfect sense.




Why the hate for Amazon?



I don't know - At least you can read Amazon books on various devices vs Apple's iBooks that are locked into just iDevices.

Movies - both have their own. Apps - same. Although Amazon devices could use the play store if allowed.

Music - both have their own but can be played on other devices

I wouldn't call it that terribly closed.

What you fail to mention is that you have to use Amazon software or their website. And their computer software sucks big time. It really is horrible.

And don't say that you can download the music and play it elsewhere, even though that is true. But, it's also true with music from the iTunes store.
 

Rogifan

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Nov 14, 2011
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Amazon knows (as does Apple) Ecosystem = everything.

Making money off of devices is Apple's gig. Amazon wants more of a reason to get you hooked into their ecosystem.

They already have a great reason for you to buy all your ebooks from them. Amazon prime has expanded a lot in the last year. Music and apps - the best way to capture that market even more than they do now is to have mobile devices (not just kindles) that can play music and apps. So that means phones and iPod like devices.

No brainer.
Yeah but are they even making any money off their ecosystem?

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/04/26/prime-is-killing-amazons-profit.aspx

Or it doesn't matter because Amazon isn't in business to make money and that's totally ok...
 

2bikes

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Put simply, if you invest in Amazon to get profits, your a fool. They will not bow down to investors just to make a quick buck.

Why would anybody invest in a publicly traded company? For fun? If you buy stocks for fun, then you would be the fool.
 

LagunaSol

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So Jeff Bezos became a billionaire by producing losses?

Apparently, yes.

Some people are in this business for the long run, not some short term goals like making a fast dime.

Ask Dell and HP how well pricing for market share and not profit works out in the "long run."

Put simply, if you invest in Amazon to get profits, your a fool.

Nothing makes sense anymore. :(
 

mdelvecchio

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Sep 3, 2010
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Clearly the above three posters have no idea on what Amazons business goals are.

Here's a hint: Money doesn't even come into it. Seriously, their focus isn't on increasing profits each year. It never has been and never will be. Read up on how Amazon's business operates and you'll understand.

yes, money certainly does come into their business plan. i guarantee it.

corporations have one business goal -- make profit. profit is the air companies breathe. all companies.
 
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pirg

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Clearly the above three posters have no idea on what Amazons business goals are.

Here's a hint: Money doesn't even come into it. Seriously, their focus isn't on increasing profits each year. It never has been and never will be. Read up on how Amazon's business operates and you'll understand.

Lol clearly the hallmarks of a successful business.
 

mdelvecchio

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The game here is about trying to replicate something Apple is most successful at: making it's followers feel compelled to throw out perfectly good technology from last year to buy this year's new model. Only runs a little bit faster? No problem. Doesn't really do anything significantly new or different? No problem.
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Apple has shown that many will swallow this pill with barely a gripe...

youre quite misguided. apple does not intend for normal consumers to upgrade every year, nor do most consumers actually do that. phone nerds do. thats it. normal people wait at least the 2 years of their contracts here in the US.

doesnt mean they shouldn't continue to release improved models annually -- just as laptops, stereos, TVs, and cars do. none of those manufacturers expect you to upgrade to each one annually. only a fool or the insanely wealthy would do so.
 
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